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California Redefines “Assault Weapon,” Bans Them
Gateway Pundit ^ | September 10, 2013 | Dana Loesch

Posted on 09/10/2013 11:10:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Scientific Theory holds that you fit the theory to the facts. It’s applied backwards in the world of gun control: you modify or omit the facts to fit the theory. Case in point: California recently redefined what it thinks an assault weapon is and then banned their definition:

New sales of semi-automatic rifles with removable magazines would be banned in California under a bill passed by the Democratic-led state legislature on Tuesday, and those who already own such weapons would have to register them.

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It would classify an assault weapon as any rifle that accepts a detachable magazine that can hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition, and would ban its sale or purchase. People who already own such weapons would be required to register them.

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California, which has some of the toughest gun control laws in the nation, already bans rifles with large-capacity fixed magazines, which cannot be removed. This bill would expand that ban to add rifles that accept large-capacity removable magazines.

CA says nothing about semi-automatic pistols, like the kind used in the Virginia Tech massacre (a Glock 19 and a 22 caliber Walther P22). Semi auto rifles are not OK, semi auto handguns are OK, even though they are used in the vast majority of crimes committed by perps illegally using firearms. (They’re also the top choice for self defense, too, but media never wants to talk about those statistics.)

CA wants to ban scariness, plain and simple.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; california; corruption; democrats; govtabuse; guncontrol; liberalfascism; nazisate; nazistate; secondamendment; tyranny

1 posted on 09/10/2013 11:10:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Outlaw anti-Constitutional leftists.


2 posted on 09/10/2013 11:12:30 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

CA is LOST!


3 posted on 09/10/2013 11:13:02 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Compliance with Tyranny is Treason.


4 posted on 09/10/2013 11:14:26 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Liberal Democrats = Communists. RINO Republicans = Communist Sympathizers.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
next Hockey sticks, baseball bat, rock & sticks...
words and/or looks(been there done that)..add your own.

5 posted on 09/10/2013 11:15:07 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Best thing my parents did was move us away in 1974.


6 posted on 09/10/2013 11:18:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
i was there for 15 hours...felt something oozing thur my skin....

7 posted on 09/10/2013 11:21:59 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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>assault weapon as any rifle that accepts a detachable magazine that can hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition,

Well since you can only buy 10 rd mags in CA, ARs must be OK


8 posted on 09/10/2013 11:25:01 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (I have five dollars for each of you)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

cali reset required, press reset now. or parts will secede from this socialist hellhole.


9 posted on 09/10/2013 11:28:04 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: KneelBeforeZod

Doesn’t matter. If the AR *is capable of* accepting a larger magazine, then it is banned. Doesn’t matter if all you can get is 10-rd mags. It’s all in the wording.


10 posted on 09/10/2013 11:29:25 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

this changes jack sh1t for criminals.

all this does is make laws that by reglation turn law abiding citizens who want the same weapons that police use, and that criminals will continue to use, into criminals. it makes law abiding citizens lives’ that much more tougher for them to defend in a timely manner,’with useful weapons.

effing traitor tyrants.


11 posted on 09/10/2013 11:31:07 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: skinkinthegrass

It used to be pretty close to paradise on Earth. Just goes to show you that they can ruin anything.


12 posted on 09/10/2013 11:45:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I made the mistake of Registering the AK-47 I used to own when they passed the Assault Weapon Ban way back when in CA.

I actually sold it to an out of State Buyer just to get my name off the list. I later bought a CA legal AR-15 that requires a “Bullet Button” to remove the puny 10 Round Magazine.

The Rifle was CA Legal if you needed a “tool” to remove the Magazines so a GENIUS invented the Bullet Button.

The Liberals were not amused, hence the new attack on our Constitutional Rights.

The idea that a Politician can make any one of us an Overnight Felon is contrary to our God Given Rights. I will not comply with this madness and I hope my fellow CA Citizens refuse to as well.

Compliance with Tyranny is Treason, and Tyranny it is.


13 posted on 09/11/2013 12:00:07 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Liberal Democrats = Communists. RINO Republicans = Communist Sympathizers.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

dont register a damned thing.


14 posted on 09/11/2013 12:16:14 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

G O F U C 2 Y O U R S e L F . . .

WTF?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I woke up a criminal?

I woke up in Amerika!!!!!!????

F U in the A**!!!


15 posted on 09/11/2013 12:22:33 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

http://dallas.craigslist.org/search/rea?query=mansfield&zoomToPosting=&minAsk=&maxAsk=&bedrooms=3&housing_type=


16 posted on 09/11/2013 12:36:16 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
From the article linked in the post;

"How many more innocent men, women and children have to be slaughtered while going about their daily lives before we do something?" asked Assemblyman Reginald B. Jones-Sawyer, Sr., a Democrat from Los Angeles, speaking in favor of the ban.

He ticked off a gruesome list of recent gun massacres: Sandy Hook, killings at a Sikh Temple in Wisconsin, the Colorado movie theater killings and others.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/california-assault-weapons-ban-2013-9#ixzz2eZEnzzlU

Uh, wern't all those "Gun free Zones?"

17 posted on 09/11/2013 12:37:00 AM PDT by matt04
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To: matt04; Vendome

Assemblyman Reginald B. Jones-Sawyer, Sr. (D-Los Angeles)

18 posted on 09/11/2013 12:43:00 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: Little Pig
Doesn’t matter. If the AR *is capable of* accepting a larger magazine, then it is banned.

Drill a hole, cut a 2-56 thread in it, and install a small screw on Loctite. This screw will prevent "acceptance" of a standard magazine. Then cut a slot in your magazines (that are, presumably, <= 10 rounds) - this will allow insertion of modified magazines without interference from the screw.

This is, of course, stupid. There is no X-ray search of your vehicle as you cross the border of CA from a neighboring state. All that you will see is an agricultural checkpoint, and they don't even want to talk to car drivers. Anyone who is planning mayhem can bring a few tons of weapons of any kind, and there is no constitutionally compliant method to prevent that.

19 posted on 09/11/2013 12:44:38 AM PDT by Greysard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Every time that ‘assault weapons’ become a political football in California, it seems like waves of California’s hidden magazine-fed semi auto military style rifles come out of the woodwork and end up for sale in Nevada and Arizona gun stores when the panicked owners cross state lines to get rid of their contraband firearms that they refused to register under CA’s ‘Dangerous Weapons Control Act’. It never fails. They’ve been hiding them for years, too terrified to take them out and shoot them, and ultimately decide to get rid of them... Just like the liberals intended.

Sad thing is that the owners think they can at least make a profit by selling a vintage ‘pre-ban’ AK clone for current market value of about five times what they might have paid for it new back in the ‘80s or ‘90s during the times of the Federal 922 bans, Clinton 1994 ban, or the two CA bans. “Gosh, look at how much they sell for on Gunbroker! Mines way nicer than that one is so its gotta be worth more!”, they presume.

Nuh uh. Nope. They find out to their dismay that they’ll get 50% of the original retail price as shown in the ‘Blue Book Of Gun Values’ — usually a fraction of what they expected — and that’s being generous. Take it or leave it or travel back into California with your instant-felon contraband, mister. Gotta sell to an FFL or that’s a federal felony. Maybe if its a hugely collectible ‘assault rifle’ like a vintage SIG-550 or something they’ll get significantly more, but otherwise, bupkis. Only thing they can possibly do is see if a gun store manager will sell it on consignment for them on Gunbroker, but that’s usually somewhere between a thin chance and a fat chance.


20 posted on 09/11/2013 12:49:05 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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Feinstein: Mr. and Mrs. America “turn them all in”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzDO86iSKWU


21 posted on 09/11/2013 1:09:27 AM PDT by Hayride
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Which is the "assault rifle"??

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2970270/posts

22 posted on 09/11/2013 1:38:17 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is what happens when the Democrats control the government.


23 posted on 09/11/2013 1:54:32 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did California do this or not? The article says “it WOULD....” all over the place. A law is a law and “DOES” in my book.


24 posted on 09/11/2013 2:19:37 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Little Pig
If the AR *is capable of* accepting a larger magazine, then it is banned. Doesn’t matter if all you can get is 10-rd mags. It’s all in the wording.

Well, that includes any rifle a larger than 10-round magazine has been made for--including the Ruger 10-22.

25 posted on 09/11/2013 2:38:05 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It used to be pretty close to paradise on Earth. Just goes to show you that they can ruin anything.

I would mind their turning paradise into hell considerably less if they just weren't so [fill in the blank] proud of their loathsome accomplishments.

26 posted on 09/11/2013 2:47:22 AM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
CA wants to ban scariness, plain and simple.

It's not about guns in CA. It's about Emotional manipulation to get Votes.

If it were about guns, they would be banning handguns, but becuase the big guns look so scary, they scare the population into voting Progressive/Liberal.

It's the same old Schtick on a number of levels.

27 posted on 09/11/2013 3:18:41 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: sr4402

I have stopped reading all the stories about California laws and their creators since most of the things they are promoting will eventually destroy them. I have NO INTEREST in ANYTHING California does and like Odumbo, they too will soon be gone. (They’re already “lost”)


28 posted on 09/11/2013 3:59:51 AM PDT by Progov
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.


29 posted on 09/11/2013 4:02:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If all of you Conservatives would just pack up and leave California... in less than five years... those left behind would kill and eat one another and you could go back and start over. Just do it!


30 posted on 09/11/2013 4:29:37 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“Well, that includes any rifle a larger than 10-round magazine has been made for—including the Ruger 10-22.”

Yes. A lot of long gun owners are in for an unpleasant surprise.


31 posted on 09/11/2013 6:01:00 AM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They claim; “People who already own such weapons would be required to register them.”

Article 1 - The Legislative Branch
Section 10 - Powers Prohibited of States

No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

More succinctly; No State shall ... pass any ... ex post facto Law


32 posted on 09/11/2013 7:12:33 AM PDT by alphadog (2nd Bn. 3rd Marines, Vietnam, class of 68)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It used to be pretty close to paradise on Earth.
Just goes to show you that they can ruin anything.
Yeah, they bitten a bushel of Apples...Amongst other things....

33 posted on 09/11/2013 7:46:28 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: Kickass Conservative
"The idea that a Politician can make any one of us an Overnight Felon is contrary to our God Given Rights. I will not comply with this madness and I hope my fellow CA Citizens refuse to as well.

Compliance with Tyranny is Treason, and Tyranny it is."

Bump

Molon Labe mofo's!

34 posted on 09/11/2013 7:51:42 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Gaffer
“Did California do this or not? The article says “it WOULD....” all over the place. A law is a law and “DOES” in my book.”

Not yet its AB374 that's up for Moonbeam to do what he wants at this point as in sign veto or ignore.

As far as this article goes.
http://www.businessinsider.com/california-assault-weapons-ban-2013-9#ixzz2eZEnzzlU
The stupid burns.
Quote:”Other bills in the package passed by the Senate would have tightened additional laws, including banning a type of trigger known as a button.” Trigger button?

The anti’s dropped rimfires from the bill for now so the 10/22’s are safe for the time being till next time around.

Whats more sinister is AB711 that is up that would ban all lead in ammunition. It would go along way to banning hunting in California. The threat would be to the lead styphenate in the primers. As it stands now ammo stored right has an almost unlimited shelf life with lead styphenate stabilizing. Without it the ammo goes “bad” after about 6 years or less

35 posted on 09/11/2013 8:20:46 AM PDT by Polynikes (What would Walt Kowalski do. In the meantime "GET OFF MY LAWN")
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To: Polynikes

Just wanted to know what’s already been done and what might be averted given the potential to still do something about it.


36 posted on 09/11/2013 8:27:59 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You buying a house or that the taxpayers are buying her one?


37 posted on 09/11/2013 10:50:18 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

No, that was for you to look at homes in the Dallas area. LOL


38 posted on 09/11/2013 12:16:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL

When my brother and I considered moving away from Tulsa we chose Dallas, Atlanta and San Francisco for our escape.

By coin toss we ended up in San Francisco Bay area.

Love it here but, as I and my brother accumulate wealth, we are contemplating leaving and moving back to ‘Mericah.

We love to fish, crawl around in the dirt and feel free to be American.

Me? I like tight blue jeans, Justin Ropers and cowboy hats on hot chicks.


39 posted on 09/11/2013 12:55:43 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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