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Russia 'to renew offer to supply S-300s to Iran'
AFP ^ | 11 Sep 13

Posted on 09/11/2013 3:56:16 AM PDT by elhombrelibre

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To: whomever

NO ONE.... Not Russia or the US should ever have sold the Muslim Countries any weapons ever. But both nations are very guilty of this. The Russians had to face their own weapons in Afghanistan, we faced some of our own weapons in Iraq and if we ever have to do anything with S/A we will totally face our own weapons. Even Iran has US weapons (old but there). The Muslim Countries are not our or Russia’s friends but both Countries continue this stupid self defeating supply line to people we should have left to fight amongst themselves with swords.


51 posted on 09/11/2013 4:56:26 PM PDT by thegrump
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To: elhombrelibre
People used to excuse Hitler by saying he was merely a nationalist, too.

Well now you're going to an extreme. Hitler was not a nationalist, he was a madman.

Nationalism/Localism is only natural (unless you're an American liberal).

We support our High School football team, our city baseball team, you may be for the Yankees, I'm for the Red Sox, we may hope the USA wins all the gold in the Olympics, the Vietnamese are going to root for their country and of course the liberal American is going to root for whoever America's biggest enemy is at the given time. To a liberal American democrat, such as Barack Obama, America needs to be taught a lesson for all of the "evils" it has caused.

They are also racists. They believe the reason why we got to where we were (until Obama knocked us down a few notches) is because America is predominantly white. They think white is supreme therefore anybody or national not white has an unfair disadvantage under us and their agendas reflect that from racial quotas in the work place to giving the Mexicans "what the whites took from them" even if it means opening the borders to let them in.

You wont see China or Russia using racial quotas in the work place. That's an advantage these nations have over us. Under Obama some of the other advantages we once had over communist China and socialist Russia are being dismantled (AKA Free Market), soon the results of Obama's hard work will begin to be obvious.

Nationalism is normal. It's not really that we conservatives are such extreme nationalists as it is that those in charge of this nation are so anti-America that not one drop of nationalism is in their blood.

During the Olympics a few years ago I remember the liberals tried to ban Americans from shouting "USA, USA" during the games. Why? Because they think we are better than the other teams because we are white.

The truth is, most Americans shout "USA, USA" not because of the color of our skin but because we love our nation just as the German, the Liberians and the Filipinos do.

We keep supporting these people and their agenda and we're DOOMED.

We've probably lost our position of power in the Middle East to Russia in just the last few weeks, but for the last few years (especially under Obama) we have been working hard to achieve that loss. It's unfortunate, yes. But anybody watching cannot be surprised.

How can America think it can make a deal with Assad (or Iran for that matter)if he gives up his WMD after the world seen Gadaffi volunteer his WMDs to us only a few years before we started bombing him?

The world saw that, including North Korea and Iran.

Sorry, we no longer have credibility.

If I were Assad, Iran or North Korea I would not trust the USA in any WMD deals after what we've been doing since Obama took office. It would be suicide. THAT is unfortunate and one BIG reason why I did NOT support Obama and John McCain in Libya.

We lost credibility under Obama and it was lost long before Aug 21 and long before his "red line" comment. We lost credibility when bombed Libya during a radical islamic uprising AFTER the man made a deal and gave us his WMDs.

They see Russia as the one with credibility now.

You are right, Russia is NO friend of the United States. But then again, after what we've been under Obama, why would anybody be our friends now?

52 posted on 09/11/2013 5:14:14 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan

Hitler was not a nationalist, he wanted to unite all of Europe under a New World Order.


53 posted on 09/11/2013 5:17:29 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Hitler was not a nationalist, he wanted to unite all of Europe under a New World Order.

Yup, it's just an old liberal argument to try to pour cold water on an American who loves America. Just try to compare the America loving American to Hitler and silence his "USA, USA" chants. They've often tried to compare Reagan to Hitler. Sad to see some Freepers have started using that old liberal technique.


54 posted on 09/11/2013 5:22:58 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: thegrump
Not Russia or the US should ever have sold the Muslim Countries any weapons ever. But both nations are very guilty of this.

Exactly!

Sources: US weapons stolen in Libya raids, fueling Special Forces pull-out

55 posted on 09/11/2013 5:28:04 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: elhombrelibre

In 2012 Obama told Putin there would be more flexibility after the election.


56 posted on 09/11/2013 8:57:53 PM PDT by Cedar
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To: elhombrelibre; Gaffer
But it's ok for the U.S. to sell off future generations while borrowing trillions from Communist China while shipping them hundreds of thousands of American jobs? All while the Red Chinese arm up? All this while leaving our borders wide open as millions entered willy nilly from God knows where during 10 years of compassionate wars?

If these are not national security issue, nothing is.

57 posted on 09/11/2013 9:48:23 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: tsowellfan

What is your stance on Syria and Iran? Just tell me what do you see as a REALISTIC approach to solve it.
It seems like you don’t like how it is getting solved, you might have some points but what is your alternative plan?


58 posted on 09/11/2013 10:30:31 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: dragnet2

Ah, what looks okay?


59 posted on 09/12/2013 9:42:54 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberal women now play the vagina card to win their arguments.)
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To: Cedar

Now, Obama’s Putin’s bitch.


60 posted on 09/12/2013 9:43:35 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberal women now play the vagina card to win their arguments.)
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To: tsowellfan
Ian Kershaw is probably the best biographer of Hitler, even many German Historians agree that that is correct. He does not assess Hitler as mad. Evil people are not necessarily crazy. It's their ethics and not their mental health.

Putin is a phony, a liar, a former atheist communist and a high-ranking member of the human rights-violating KGB. The KGB, if you don't recall, was the Gestapo of the USSR.

Perhaps you really believe Putin found God. Maybe you think the Baltic Nations, the Ukrainians, the Poles, and the Georgians, don't know what they're talking about when they fear him and his idiotic desire to restore the USSR's empire. But I don't think they're wrong.

If Putin had no biography, the way he's reinvented himself might make sense. As it is, he's like Mussolini who was once a Socialist and later a founder of Fascism. He's like Milosevic who was once a Communist heir to Tito and then a Ultra-nationalist Serb.

61 posted on 09/12/2013 9:52:55 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberal women now play the vagina card to win their arguments.)
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To: cunning_fish
What is your stance on Syria and Iran?

Syria is not a threat to our national security but Iran is.

To some extent, going after Iran is also going after some of Syria's resources thus killing one and a half birds with one stone.

Do I think we should declare war on Iran out of the blue? No. But there were times when serious red lines were crossed by Iran but we ignored it, just like the last North Korea fiasco.

During the last North Korean fiasco we could have told China to disarm North Korea of what it has already progressed to with its nuclear weapons program or we will.

Can't do any of that now and be taken seriously. If we did, they would likely assume we were drawing another fake red line which could by default draw us into war simply because we have no credibility.

We need to choose our red lines wisely and on those nations and situations that involve our national security.

62 posted on 09/12/2013 9:56:44 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan

The comparison is Putin to Hitler and only in the sense that both claimed to be nationalist. No Freeper I know has compared Bush to Hitler.


63 posted on 09/12/2013 9:58:58 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberal women now play the vagina card to win their arguments.)
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I don’t see Iran as a threat in a military terms. They are an extremely complicated society, much more developed than any of the Arabs. There are a lot of open minded people who aren’t happy with the mullahs and certainly not dreaming to kill Americans.
Do you think they are about to occupy America or what?


64 posted on 09/12/2013 10:04:41 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: elhombrelibre
Perhaps you really believe Putin found God. Maybe you think the Baltic Nations, the Ukrainians, the Poles, and the Georgians

Now you're putting words into my mouth and it happens to be in the same comment where you also paraphrase Hitler's "best biographer.

How do you expect me to put any credibility in your assessment of what you say a "Hitler biographer" has to say about Hitler and your assessment of Putin when you can't even honestly quote me.

I don't even recall mentioning God in this thread let alone imply that Putin found Him.

No, I stick to what I said before. Hitler was a madman.

Madmen are not necessarily stupid, is a common assessment when most historians spoke of Hitler. You can be really intelligent and be a looney-tune.

Hitler was a looney-tune.

65 posted on 09/12/2013 10:08:06 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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I don’t see Iran as a threat.

I do. Even many liberal democrats against the Syria strike concede that.

66 posted on 09/12/2013 10:16:53 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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Iran is a leverage against Caliphate and Sunni savages it the first place. And it has a fat chance to reform for better.


67 posted on 09/12/2013 10:20:10 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: elhombrelibre
The comparison is Putin to Hitler and only in the sense that both claimed to be nationalist

na·tion·al·ism: Devotion to the interests or culture of one's nation.

Add me to that list as well. I feel that America is the best country in the world and our system is what got us to where we were until Pelosi and Reid took control of Congress and Obama took the White House.

68 posted on 09/12/2013 10:27:57 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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You still don’t get it. My point isn’t that nationalism is wrong. My point is that Putin’s a phony.


69 posted on 09/12/2013 10:46:02 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberal women now play the vagina card to win their arguments.)
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To: elhombrelibre
My point is that Putin’s a phony

I never trusted Putin. I just trust Obama less.

70 posted on 09/12/2013 10:48:45 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan

Madness implies delusion, cognitive deficiency, paranoia, and other such new age claptrap. Hitler and Putin are evil. They’re different by degree but not by the immoral nature of their behavior in my opinion. Unless you think you can spend time in the flippin’ KGB and still be a regular nationalist, I say he’s evil.


71 posted on 09/12/2013 10:50:06 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberal women now play the vagina card to win their arguments.)
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To: tsowellfan

Good. I’m glad that you don’t.


72 posted on 09/12/2013 10:53:57 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberal women now play the vagina card to win their arguments.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Unless you think you can spend time in the flippin’ KGB

I have no idea where you are coming from with your accusations. I never trusted Putin and the reason I had never trusted him is BECAUSE of is history and his ties with the KGB.

Just because I do not feel we should bomb a country that's got nothing to do with our national defense or interest does not mean I am Soviet.

Obama HATES America more than Putin. That's not a compliment to Putin, that's an insult to those idiots that voted to put Obama in the White House.

I trust Obama LESS than I do Putin.

73 posted on 09/12/2013 10:56:14 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: elhombrelibre

Play stupid much?

You’re flailing your arms about because of what Russia and Iran might do...When we are doing the exact same damn thing....

When the brutal nasty reality is, our own corrupt government due to their destructive, country killing domestic policies, has put the U.S. at great risk, right *here* right *now* on our own soil.


74 posted on 09/12/2013 12:07:45 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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No, I don’t play stupid at all. Play quisling much?


75 posted on 09/12/2013 12:37:30 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberal women now play the vagina card to win their arguments.)
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To: dragnet2

No, I don’t play stupid at all. Play quisling much?


76 posted on 09/12/2013 12:37:31 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberal women now play the vagina card to win their arguments.)
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To: cunning_fish

We have several Iranian students here. They would love to get rid of the nuts that run Iran.


77 posted on 09/12/2013 12:40:24 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: elhombrelibre

What’s your suggestion elhomie?

Bomb Russia? Bomb Iran?

20 more years of compassionate wars?

gak...


78 posted on 09/12/2013 12:45:06 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

You asked if I play stupid and now you want to act as if we’re buds. Are you so crass that you do that all the time or just on line?


79 posted on 09/12/2013 1:39:16 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberal women now play the vagina card to win their arguments.)
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To: elhombrelibre

See the tagline elhomie


80 posted on 09/12/2013 3:04:26 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: AppyPappy

Dissent is widespread there. Last year a “gang” of teenage girls has kicked the crap out of a mullah who was too anal lecturing them not to dress or act as a whores (they were wearing jeans and track suits, unveiled). An author of this news stressed that a lot of people were at the scene and none ever helped a guy or reported girls’ features and their license plate.


81 posted on 09/12/2013 6:05:14 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: elhombrelibre
These Russian missiles are to prevent Israel from taking out the Ayatollah's nuclear program which is supplied by Russia.

KGB Putin is determined to enable the Ayatollah to get a nuclear bomb to wipe Israel off the map.

Putin still wants revenge for how the USA destroyed the EVIL EMPIRE Putin dedicated his life to.

82 posted on 09/12/2013 8:28:15 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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