Skip to comments.FACT CHECK: Obama's Syria case still lacks proof
Posted on 09/11/2013 4:03:37 AM PDT by don-o
WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Barack Obama voiced his conviction Tuesday night that Syrian President Bashar Assad was to blame for deadly chemical attacks against civilians, but again he offered no proof.
A look at his remarks to the nation, seeking support for a military strike against Syria, and how they compare with the facts as publicly known:
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First time I have seen the Obama buttlicking media speak the TRUTH that he hasn’t proven his case.
Follow the Money
Sunni Muslims have been at war with Alawite and Shiite Muslims for over a thousand years and no one ever paid any attention to their killing each other, so why all of a sudden has our President taken sides in this Muslim domestic disturbance? One thing Ive learned over the years is that when youre trying to identify a motive in a criminal investigation, all you have to do is follow the money and itll usually come into focus.
The first clue came when we saw our President publicly bow and grovel before the King of Saudi Arabia (a Sunni Muslim). Could it have been because the King of Saudi Arabia financed Obamas campaign? Remember, there are still large sums of money in Obamas campaign coffers that havent been adequately explained.
If the King of Saudi Arabia now owns our President, it could explain why Obama has sided with the Kings Sunni Muslim Al-Qaeda rebels in this Civil War against Syrias Alawite/Shiite government. It could also explain why Obama has prevented the development of U.S. oil resources and has effectively killed coal in the U.S. in order to keep our country dependent on foreign oil.
Its evident that U.S national security isnt threatened by this Syrian Civil War and the only reason weve entered into this fracas is because President Obama is bought and paid for by the Saudis. Now, were learning just how many in our Congress, from Boehner to McCain, are also on the Saudi payroll.
Our Secretary of State, John Kerry, just revealed that the Saudi King has offered to reimburse the U.S. for the cost of U.S. strikes in Syria. If President Obama sells the services of our U.S. Military to an Islamic Sultan, as hes about to do, our Soldiers, Sailors, Marines and Airmen will then become historic parallels to Ottoman Janissaries. Americans will then go to war shoulder to shoulder with their Al-Qaeda allies making Osama bin Laden so proud.
Other sources have reported that the Saudis attempted to pay the Russians to stop supporting Assads Syrian Government, but the Russians refused to be bought, and why would the Russians refuse to be bought by the Saudis? Again, just Follow the Money. The only reason the Russians would refuse to be bought by the Saudis is because they see more monetary gain for themselves if this disturbance in Syria escalates and hostilities spread throughout the Middle East.
If the U.S. strikes Syria, it will in all likelihood trigger a war that will quickly spread throughout the Middle East from Israel through Saudi Arabia to Iran. When this happens, nukes could start popping, Middle East oil fields could become highly radioactive, and Saudi oil could become unobtainable on the world market.
As Russia has developed its oil resources equal to or possibly past the Saudis and are now considered the #2 oil producer in the world behind Saudi Arabia, the elimination of Saudi oil would make Russia #1 in the world. Russia could then name their own price for oil, and the world would have to pay. You have to hand it to the Russians, chess players that they are and looking at least five moves ahead, as they will have eliminated their competition and tricked their competition into paying for it.
Dont look for a motive in this war for the Saudi Sunnis, the Syrian Alawites, and the Iranian Shiites, as theyre primitive religious fanatics and dont need a motive beyond their own insanity.
I ask you; just how insane do we have to be to enter into a war among the insane?
I believe our democracy is stronger when the President acts with the support of Congress. And I believe that America acts more effectively abroad when we stand together.
This is especially true after a decade that put more and more war-making power in the hands of the President, and more and more burdens on the shoulders of our troops, while sidelining the peoples representatives from the critical decisions about when we use force.
obomber is the only president in the last decade not to go to congress for use of force(libya). Bush got congress' approval for the afghan and iraq wars.
Sorry. An AP fact Check isn’t worth do-do.
This is probably a CYA story that will be used to refute future allegations that the MSM is in the tank on Syria. I have no doubt that this story will be drowned out by a deluge of stories praising the President and his brilliant Secretary of State for their deft and statemanlike handling of Syria. The MSM is that craven. It will start with stories of how Obama planned the Russian diplomatic solution from the outset. Bam and Company brilliantly manipulated Putin to do what he did to avert the conflict. Before the MSM spin is complete, the American public will believe that Obama/Kerry made peace in the Middle East, disabled Assad’s most dangerous weapons, sent a message to other tyrants about WMD, protected Israel, brought hope of democracy to Syria, etc., etc. Just wait ...
You’re probably right. By temperament, I am a “glass half empty” guy. As I grow older, I am consciously trying to change that.
“I ask you; just how insane do we have to be to enter into a war among the insane?”
If I were POTUS, I would draw a red line: Any WMD use will be met with a swift, powerful response. Any WMD use on non-Muslim countries, that is.
If you’re really going to follow the money, you ought to consider the international reserve status of the US$, the quality of the US$ as a store of value, and the current US$ holdings of KSA and other OPEC nations. Fact is that the US government is utterly dependent upon OPEC and China to finance its deficits, but the quality of the US$ has significantly deteriorated. Consider what would happen if KSA persuaded OPEC to price crude oil in gold instead of US$. This prospect makes our friends, the Saudis, very persuasive in such matters. And, like everything, the current crop of politicians will even make the US military available for a price.
My opinion. It was a workplace accident. By the “rebels”.
I am of an age to remember the sour joke that went around after 1965 as LBJ ramped up Vietnam; “The Democrats were right in 1964, they said that if I voted for Goldwater we would go and bomb the hell out of the Vietnamese. Well, I voted for Goldwater and sure enough we went and bombed the hell out of the Vietnamese.” While I wasn’t old enough to vote, I do remember that ever so effective crapopulous TV Ad with the little girl and countdown that was constantly played as ‘news’.
Now we have another, even worse liberal, social engineer in the White House that finds out, far too late, his fond assumptions and preconceptions are no match to the real world! I just PRAY that we can “FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORM BACK” America after this demonstrated incompetent, bowing idiot leaves office!
It really gets under my skin to keep hearing the Democrats call our nation a democracy. We're a republic - a democratic republic, but a republic nonetheless. The guy that was ousted in Colorado called us a democracy too.
Follow the possibility of a collapsed US economy followed by a collapsed US Government. The most powerful military in the world would then be temporarily leaderless. The closest parallel to this would be a "monkey with a hand grenade" loose in the world. If you don't think that possibility doesn't scare the crap out of the Saudis, you're wrong.
Goldwater in '64
Hot water in '65
Bread and water in '66
"In your heart, you know he's right." That resonated with a 13 year old me.
I recently saw a clip of Ronald Reagan calling the US a democracy. I agree with you. The story I heard was Ben Franklin, after the meeting of the continental congress where the Constitution was approved was asked, “what kind of government did you decide?” Franklin reportedly said, “A republic, if you can keep it.”
How bout this one, "Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue, extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice."
All valid observations, to which the money analysis should included Russia’s monopoly on natural gas supply to the EU which is does not want to give up with a regime change in Syria to a French/US consortium or some other, pipeline from Turkey through Syria. This is well- discussed everywhere except the MSM.
In any case the muzzzie in chief is owned by the Saudis as was Jimmah Cahtah, who still is. Shariah continues to weasel its way into our society with the protectors of Mecca funding it and swaying the lickspittle “elite” of harvaaaard and the the NE aristos of bygone days.
No question this ALL started with G Bush senior unravelling all that Ronald Reagan put together.
The Progressives are fully vested in the NWO and Saudi plans and have been all along, for their “investment” portfolio. Bush to Clinton,to Bush to.... obamaumao.
The problem is that obamaumao is also a marxist.
This is also ALL smokescreen for the march of obamaumaocare which RINOs are supporting. That and the ridiculous arguments about “shutting down the govt.” charade.
“I ask you; just how insane do we have to be to enter into a war among the insane?”
Insanity makes a great smoke screen for the Ruling Class agenda. They want to suck the oxygen out of defunding Obama-Care, and maybe even sneak in a midnight amnesty plan. I wish Speaker Bone-head would just start the Obama Party and try to split the democrat ticket. Then he’d be part of the solution.
At the same time, O-bomb-a gets to help Al Quaeda and put secularists and Christians at risk. Just like Egypt, siding against Coptic Christians. And just like Clntion’s support of the KLA islamo-terrorists in Kosovo.
If Obama really cared about innocent lives, he’d be cracking down on Fast and Furious and lashing out against crimes by blacks on blacks and blacks on whites. He would also be opposed to killing abortion survivors.
What a creep. Why should I think he gives a fig about humanity when his brother still lives in a hut and could really use $20?