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A Vote to Fund Obamacare Will Fund Deliberate Destruction of Life
Townhall.com ^ | September 11, 2013 | Terry Jeffrey

Posted on 09/11/2013 5:38:12 AM PDT by Kaslin

At the end of this month, members of Congress will face a binary choice. The House and Senate will pass a bill to fund the government past Sept. 30, the last day of the fiscal year. That bill will either permit or prohibit funding for implementation of Obamacare. Members will need to vote for it or against it.

There will be no middle ground.

If the bill permits funding for implementation of Obamacare and a member votes for it, that member will be voting to allow the administration to send tax dollars to health care providers who perform abortions.

That member will also be voting to allow the administration to use tax dollars to force Catholics and others who share the view that abortion is murder -- or that artificial contraception and sterilization are intrinsically immoral -- to act against their consciences.

Members who knowingly vote for legislation that provides the administration with the money to carry out these attacks on the right to life, the freedom of conscience and the free exercise of religion will be complicit in those attacks.

It will not be as if these members just turned the other way and did not look as the Obama administration facilitated the destruction of innocent life and crushed the freedom of conscience; these members will have knowingly handed the administration the tools it needed to do these evil things.

How do we know that?

The government-run health care exchanges that will sell government-approved health insurance plans will be allowed to sell plans that cover abortion. All health plans sold through these exchanges -- and, eventually, almost all health plans in the United States -- will be required to cover artificial contraceptives, sterilizations and abortion-inducing drugs.

The federal government will give households earning less than 400 percent of the federal poverty level -- currently $94,200 for a family of four -- a subsidy to buy health insurance, but only if they buy their policy on the government-run exchange. The Treasury will pay these subsidies directly to the insurance providers.

In all cases -- because of the so-called "preventive services" regulation that requires health care plans to cover abortion-inducing drugs -- these subsidies paid by the Treasury will go to health insurers who pay for abortifacients that terminate human life in the earliest stages of development.

When Americans receiving the federal subsidy for their health insurance premiums buy a health insurance plan that covers doctor-performed abortions, the Treasury will pay tax dollars directly to a health insurance company that pays abortionists to kill unborn babies.

The administration will point to accounting gimmicks to claim that paying an insurance company tax dollars specifically to fund a health insurance plan that expressly includes coverage of abortion is not a federal subsidy for abortion. But the administration's arguments will be logically and morally indefensible. The fact will remain: The administration will take dollar A out of the Treasury and give it to insurance company B to pay for a plan in which the insurance company promises to pay doctors to abort babies.

A congressman who votes for a federal funding bill that permits funding of Obamacare will be voting to give the administration the authority to take that dollar out of the Treasury and give it to insurance companies specifically to pay for plans that promise to pay people to abort babies.

Then there is the attack on religious liberty and freedom of conscience.

The Department of Health and Human Services has issued an Obamacare "preventive services" regulation that requires virtually all health care plans in the United States to cover, without any fees or co-pay, sterilizations, artificial contraceptives and abortion-inducing drugs. Many Americans conscientiously object to subsidizing some or all of these things. The Catholic Church teaches that all three are intrinsically immoral.

More than a year ago, the U.S. Catholic bishops unanimously approved a statement declaring this regulation an "unjust and illegal mandate" and "violation of personal civil rights."

"The HHS mandate creates still a third class, those with no conscience protection at all: individuals who, in their daily lives, strive constantly to act in accordance with their faith and moral values," said the bishops. "They, too, face a government mandate to aid in providing 'services' contrary to those values -- whether in their sponsoring of, and payment for, insurance as employers; their payment of insurance premiums as employees; or as insurers themselves -- without even the semblance of an exemption."

Congressmen who vote to fund implementation of Obamacare will be declaring to the world that they think they are going to gain something from that vote that is more valuable to them then preserving the freedom of conscience and the right to life.


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1 posted on 09/11/2013 5:38:12 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; ...

Right now

Looks like House will first pass a Ocare defund CR with GOP only votes and send it to Senate which will ignore it.

Then Reid will pass a CR with O-care funding intact as he only needs 51 and there are no-where near the other 51 in Senate to stop it.

Then just before the shutdown Bohner puts up the Senate bill for vote and passes it with mostly Dems. Obama signs it.

No surpise there.


2 posted on 09/11/2013 5:44:31 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

Obama’s interest in invading non-enemy Syria has nothing to do with Syria, poison gas, or children.

Obama’s interest in bombing non-enemy Syria has everything to do with creating a long-lasting, controversial, DISTRACTION for Congress in order to keep Congress from defunding Obama”care”/Boehnerkare.

Obama’s “Red Herring” for the 9-11 Benghazi Massacre Coverup was Susan Rice’s fake Video story.

Obama’s “Red Herring” for distracting Congress until Obama”care”/ Boehnerkare kicks in October 1 is Obama’s “Crossing HIS personal Red Line” distraction speech.

Obama speaks only for Obama, not the US Federal Government or America.

REMEMBER BENGHAZI !

_____________________________________

“Jellyfish Spine” Boehner as Speaker of the House is essential to Obama’s continued unchallenged destruction of the US Constitution.

Nothing will change as long as cave-in artists Boehner and Cantor are in leadership roles in the US House of Representatives.

If Boehner is replaced as Speaker with a fighter such as Col. Allen West, then the Articles of Impeachment for B. Hussein Obama, aka Barry Soetoro, can be quickly issued.

The problem is not with Obama, as he is just doing what Communist Tyrants are trained to do.

The problem is not with Boehner, as he loves to lose and wallow in the disgrace of being the worst Speaker of the House, EVER.

The problem lies with our sorry, spineless, RINOs in the House who refuse to replace Boehner with a proven fighter.

BTW, the members of the House can choose anybody to be their Speaker, even if that person is not a current Member of the House.

Tick-tock, long-time House RINOs, tick-tock - - - - .


3 posted on 09/11/2013 6:44:34 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Kaslin

DEFUND OBAMACARE, NOW!!!

WWW.DONTFUNDOBAMACARE.COM


4 posted on 09/11/2013 6:48:45 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Graewoulf
RE :”“Jellyfish Spine” Boehner as Speaker of the House is essential to Obama’s continued unchallenged destruction of the US Constitution.
Nothing will change as long as cave-in artists Boehner and Cantor are in leadership roles in the US House of Representatives.”

Worth repeating :

On Jan 3 this year the House GOP made Bohner Speaker again and what was telling was :

1) No house member ran against him to replace him with themselves. Not one. A few voted for others who were NOT running not even in House which was silly, but they didnt run themselves.

2) with all the whining on talk radio those SAME radio hosts were NOT challenging individual house members that they like, such as Lou Gomert TX , to run for Speaker themselves. They were not calling them out to step up.

5 posted on 09/11/2013 6:54:38 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs; USS Johnston; yorkiemom; publius321; Yosemitest; JSteff; Theodore R.; bicyclerepair; ...

We are 290 to 300 Million True American Citizens who legally vote, plus 20 to 30 Million Illegal Alien Invaders from Mexico who illegally vote.

Our sorry US Federal Government is currently run by 3 elected politicians and one appointed lawyer, as follows:

1.) Our POS Chief Executive Order Giver
2.) The POS Sobber of the House of Representatives
3.) The POS Majority Leader of the US Senate, and
4.) Any POS swing voter in THE NINE SUPREMES.

Question: “Now just where did I put my pitchfork?”

[Maybe I put it in my Minuteman Closet next to my snare drum? I know that it will be in the last place that I look - - - . “]


6 posted on 09/11/2013 7:40:12 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf

Don’t know how true this is, but a few days ago someone (that would be you, Grarwoulf) said that the Speaker of the House didn’t have to be a current member of the House, that the majority party could elect anyone they pleased to that position.

May I respectfully suggest they remove Boehner, and tap Palin for the position?


7 posted on 09/11/2013 8:07:50 AM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Yosemitest; null and void; All

We are 290 to 300 Million True American Citizens who legally vote, plus 20 to 30 Million Illegal Alien Invaders from Mexico who illegally vote.

Our sorry US Federal Government is currently run by 3 elected politicians and one appointed lawyer, as follows:

1.) Our POS Chief Executive Order Giver
2.) The POS Sobber of the House of Representatives
3.) The POS Majority Leader of the US Senate, and
4.) Any POS swing voter in THE NINE SUPREMES.

My question: “Now just where did I put my pitchfork?”

[Maybe I put it in my Minuteman Closet next to my snare drum? I know that it will be in the last place that I look - - - . “]


9 posted on 09/11/2013 8:21:46 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf; yorkiemom; publius321; Yosemitest; JSteff; Theodore R.; bicyclerepair

Again I repeat : which conservative model house member (of yours or anyones) actually stepped up and challenged Bohner on January 3 when it counted?

Not Lou Gomert.
Not any of them who vote ‘No’ on all house bills that Obama signs.
Not any of them who voted against Bohner, who just selected someone not even running instead of stepping up themselves.

Are they all fwightened wabbits? Is that what we are supposed to count on?

Why didnt Levin or Rush insist they run for Speaker when they were guests on their shows?


10 posted on 09/11/2013 8:59:12 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

GREAT questions! Keep it up!


11 posted on 09/11/2013 9:31:21 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf
RE GREAT questions! Keep it up!

In case I missed you on this comment see : #21

12 posted on 09/11/2013 9:57:40 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Kaslin

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops has verbally opposed the HHS Abortion Mandate, but supports Obamacare and has said nothing in support of defunding Obamacare.

Our bishops’ conference is Pro-Abortion!


13 posted on 09/11/2013 10:20:36 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Kaslin

This is how I suspect the Dems will solve the Obamacare fiasco for their constituency.

New Minimum Wage = (40/29) * Old Minimum Wage

So for an old minimum wage of $7.25 per hour, the new minimum wage that Dems will push for is $10 per hour.


14 posted on 09/11/2013 2:57:03 PM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Graewoulf; All

Thanks for the ping to the thread.

FUBO
FUCONgress
FUUSSC

Treasonous totalitarians, all.

Shows how a “charter of negative liberties” can be used by TOTALITARIANS to FORCE citizens of a republic to buy/do something.

—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.


15 posted on 09/11/2013 5:04:08 PM PDT by PGalt
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RE :”Again I repeat : which conservative model house member (of yours or anyones) actually stepped up and challenged Bohner on January 3 when it counted? Not Lou Gomert......
......
GREAT questions! Keep it up!”

Well I have the answer. I had it when I posted those challenges late last year to get someone to challenge Bohner when it was time to.

Lets use Lou as an example because he didn't vote for Bohner for Speaker so it cant be claimed he is scared of him.

Lou's job is pretty nice. He votes for stuff, or against stuff, generally his votes are the opposite of what passes into law and he is a hero in his district, and no dramatic cuts or shutdowns etc, his voters see no cuts in their lives, He is the hero and yet inconsequential

Now what if Lou got the Speaker's job?

Now Rush, Levin, DeeMint, ....and on... would accuse him personally of being the key man in executing the lefts agenda because he doesnt personally shutdown the government until Obama and Reid accepts all these cuts that Reagan never dreamed of forcing himself.

Alternatively the MSM and left would accuse him of starving the kids, stopping the troops checks, throwing babies and grandmas out of hospitals for shutting it all down to get cutting surrender from Obama.

Lou would be hated by most and pitied by the rest,

That is why everyone stays on the safe backseat driver side, always acting surprised that Bhner does the same thing over and over.

We need real heroes who step up to beat Dems on these issues, not just those who get called heroes by Rush for barking just like him and playing it safe and get rewarded for it.

16 posted on 09/11/2013 8:33:34 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Kaslin

The Bishops were for it until they were against it.


17 posted on 09/11/2013 8:36:12 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Kaslin
If the bill permits funding for implementation of Obamacare and a member votes for it, that member will be voting to allow the administration to send tax dollars to health care providers who perform abortions.

Haha. Health care providers do not perform abortions.

Those who become involved in the abortion industry may have had training as health care professionals, but they certainly do *not* act in that capacity.

18 posted on 09/12/2013 4:04:28 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: sickoflibs; Diogenes; SatinDoll; DanMiller; Berlin_Freeper; SoFloFreeper; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

I agree.

To carry your discussion further, here are my two cents:

What is lacking in today’s body politic is a philosophy that can be advanced BECAUSE of the veiled threats of doom by the opposition.

For example, the manipulating, fear-mongering, threat of doom and gloom promoted by the supporters of Government harm to our Republic that a certain Republican action would “shutdown the Government” SHOULD be a clarion call for Republicans to shut down the Government to right the wrong that the Government is doing.

To not shut down the Government is to support continuation of the wrong that the Government is doing.

Whatever wrong is being protected by the supporters of Governmental wrong, SHOULD BE our signal that we should focus on undoing what they are trying to protect.

What is required to right the wrong is known to all warriors: THE COURAGE OF ONE’S CONVICTIONS.

These are times of whimpering, timid, compromise-away-one’s-values in the false hope of achieving the equivalent of a 1960’s group hippie hug.

These are times when we wait silently for a warrior to swoop in on a white horse and make everything nicey-nice again.

These are times when people who vote choose politicians that promise pie-in-the-sky to them get put in charge of increasing the debt burden on our Grandchildren’s descendants.

These are the times when the obvious solution to these problems can be seen by “The Man in the Glass.”

BTW, look up the above quoted poem for suggestions to improve one’s response-ability.


19 posted on 09/12/2013 7:08:17 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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RE :”For example, the manipulating, fear-mongering, threat of doom and gloom promoted by the supporters of Government harm to our Republic that a certain Republican action would “shutdown the Government” SHOULD be a clarion call for Republicans to shut down the Government to right the wrong that the Government is doing.
To not shut down the Government is to support continuation of the wrong that the Government is doing”

I remember the shutdown of 1995 and 1996 it wasnt pretty, which is why they wont do it again.

If you want to know how to further a ideological agenda in law and budgets into law then talk radio is the LAST place to go for ideas or analysis.

You know who has done it successfully ? Pelosi
In 2007 she took over the house but the Senate was pretty much split 50-50, and the GOP still had the WH. So pretty much like GOP she had control of just the House.
But By 2010 she had a bigger house majority, Dems had the WH and 60 in Senate.
Then she got Obama-care to Obama’s desk and its law.

Pelosi had a plan. Pelosi wanted to win. Pelosi wanted results. And she got much of her agenda passed into law. Her Dem members love and respect her for it.

I can give you a hint what she didnt do to get there 2007 to 2008) ... take advice from DU.

20 posted on 09/12/2013 7:46:25 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

Thanks for making my point.


21 posted on 09/12/2013 8:29:34 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf

The Man in the Glass

by Dale Wimbrow, (c) 1934
1895-1954

When you get what you want in your struggle for self,
And the world makes you King for a day,
Just go to the mirror and look at yourself,
And see what that man has to say.

For it isn’t your Father, or Mother, or Wife,
Whose judgment upon you must pass.
The fellow whose verdict counts most in your life
Is the man staring back from the glass.

You may be like Jack Horner and “chisel” a plum,
And think you’re a wonderful guy,
But the man in the glass says you’re only a bum
If you can’t look him straight in the eye.

He’s the fellow to please, never mind all the rest,
For he’s with you clear up to the end,
And you’ve passed your most dangerous, difficult test
If the man in the glass is your friend.

You may get what you want down the pathway of years,
And get pats on the back as you pass,
But your final reward will be heartaches and tears
If you’ve cheated the guy in the glass.


22 posted on 09/12/2013 8:49:37 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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“These are the times when the obvious solution to these problems can be seen by “The Man in the Glass.”

The obvious solution is obtaining a political divorce. But my “man in the glass” also knows that pursuing such is likely to end in the deaths of a lot of innocents.

Hyperbole? Not really. The Powers That Be are considering getting into a war so dear leader can save face. If we’re honest with ourselves, we would consider what they’d be capable of if something really endangered their hegemony.

My “man in the glass” isn’t a psychopath, so the obvious solution isn’t an option.


23 posted on 09/12/2013 12:51:46 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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