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McCain: Maybe Obama should go ahead and bomb Assad without Congressís approval
Hot Air ^ | 9/11/2013

Posted on 09/11/2013 1:08:47 PM PDT by markomalley

A little taste of what might have been during a McCain presidency.

The senior Republican acknowledged the decision would be a difficult one, but he said he did not think members of his own party would try to remove President Obama from office if he acted in the vital national interest.

“They’re not going to impeach the president. They’re not that crazy,” he told reporters after the event…

“I think that, one, that the president of the United States should go back, if this fails, this Russian initiative, and convince the American people again,” McCain said. “Then I think the president has to decide what’s in our vital national interest.”

“If he launched an attack on Syria without the endorsement of Congress, it would be vastly more complicated if Congress had already acted. If he acted without the agreement of Congress, you could make the argument before the resolution was passed … that he is acting as other president have.”

Didn’t McCain himself disingenuously endorse impeachment if Obama decided to put boots on the ground in Syria? If he’s willing to impeach over using ground troops, which might be a logical strategic step if the U.S. launches an attack and then things escalate, why is it crazy to impeach him for defying the will of Congress and the public to launch the war in the first place?

I went to the Journal’s website to look for video of what he said but couldn’t find the bit quoted above. What I did find is Maverick saying that O either should have bombed Assad straightaway or sought approval from Congress without first stating that he’d decided as commander-in-chief that a strike was necessary. He’s quick to note, though, that presidents, among them Ronald Reagan, have been bombing first and seeking approval later for ages with little objection from Republicans. That’s his (obligatory) jab at Rand Paul, of course, which conveniently sidesteps the question of whether there should have been objection in previous cases. Presumably, by McCain’s logic, Republicans are bound to sign off on waterboarding if Obama brings it back because they’ve supported it before, after all. He also notes that the War Powers Act authorizes the president to bomb without permission for a short time before coming to Congress for authorization. That’s true — if there’s “a national emergency created by attack upon the United States.” Otherwise, per the Act, there needs to be a declaration of war or an AUMF. If McCain thinks the Act is unconstitutional because it steps on the president’s Article II prerogatives as commander-in-chief, that’s fine, but then I don’t know why he thinks it was okay for O to come to Congress before an attack. Effectively, he wants the president to decide when the country goes to war. You would think that institutional pride, if nothing else, would push a guy who’s been in the Senate for nearly 30 years to not want the chamber reduced to the level of a rubber stamp whose disapproval can be ignored if need be. But here we are.

Naturally, his sidekick Lindsey Graham is gung ho for this idea too:

LINDSEY GRAHAM: You know, there’s probably a reason 225 times presidents didn’t come to Congress. I don’t know if I’d come to talk with us. Quite frankly. The president has mismanaged this from day one about what we’re trying to do, the goals we’re trying to achieve. I think he made an unbelievably compelling case that we need to act here and compare that to the unbelievably small response we’re going to give.

So at the end of the day, if I were the president I would act after this speech if diplomacy fell apart and I wouldn’t come back to Congress.

JESSICA YELLIN: Do you think he –

GRAHAM: Because if he does his credibility as a world leader is completely shot. You can’t address the world and talk to your enemies and your friends in the tone he did and do nothing.

McCain also revealed that he’s having dinner tonight with Ted Cruz(!). Oh, and he dismissed Russia’s proposal on Syria, which has now been written up and is in U.S. hands, as a stalling tactic. Which, unfortunately, is true.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Arizona; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arizona; collaborator; johnmccain; mccain; obama; senatorjohnmccain; syria

1 posted on 09/11/2013 1:08:47 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

*&$^


2 posted on 09/11/2013 1:10:50 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028
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To: markomalley

One of America’s ‘vital national interests’ should be to rid our politics of idiots like John McCain.


3 posted on 09/11/2013 1:11:14 PM PDT by Bullish (Psalm 46)
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To: markomalley

These two idiots need to be impeached!


4 posted on 09/11/2013 1:12:02 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: markomalley
if he acted in the vital national interest.

Well, there lies the rub, he isn't!

5 posted on 09/11/2013 1:12:42 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: markomalley

During his campaign I called him:

Comrade Juan McNuts!


6 posted on 09/11/2013 1:12:46 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Why haven't we heard from the 30 Benghazi survivors?)
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To: markomalley

McCain and Pelosi are both in the same crazy league.


7 posted on 09/11/2013 1:13:05 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: markomalley

As I stated earlier today, Mr. McCain is a traitor to the United States of America,


8 posted on 09/11/2013 1:14:14 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: markomalley

Did McCain learn to fold from just playing so much Poker?


9 posted on 09/11/2013 1:15:14 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: markomalley

Maybe McCain should copulate himself with a rusty pitchfork.


10 posted on 09/11/2013 1:15:17 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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To: Bullish

If I hear McCain they would not impeach him... meaning liberals would not be drafted and he would support conservatives doing the fight for Obama’s voter base not to rebel.

It’s all you need to know from that sell out Rino... because since no black voters line up to the army to fight Obama wars, its going to have to be us.... the Tparty taxpayer now paying taxes in blood for Obamaphoners support.

Welcome to the homosexual rule...


11 posted on 09/11/2013 1:15:59 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: markomalley

12 posted on 09/11/2013 1:17:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: markomalley

Maybe we can bomb Syria by dropping Juan on them


13 posted on 09/11/2013 1:17:55 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.")
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To: markomalley

I’ll agree if McQueeg agrees to ride the bomb down a la Dr Strangelove.


14 posted on 09/11/2013 1:19:18 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: markomalley

He reminds me every day that Obama winning in 2008 was really not much worse than him winning.....but Sarah brings me back.


15 posted on 09/11/2013 1:19:56 PM PDT by Phillyred
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To: markomalley

Maybe there is something in the water under his home.
This McCain family is Bat**** crazy.


16 posted on 09/11/2013 1:20:07 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: WayneS

They All went to treat us as army enlisted personnel who cannot criticize nor question them. Tyranny is all they look for. Don’t shoot Muslim crows to defend endangered Eagles, they will all be too happy to disarm you for shooting crows an den you were protecting eagle population.


17 posted on 09/11/2013 1:21:53 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: markomalley

Hey McCain, just maybe somebody needs to shut the bleep up! I got worried when I read that Cruz is set to have dinner with John “Maverick” McCain. Then I thought, well, they are in the same party, officially at least.

One can stay engaged in an active state of war with another party member for only so long, after that, at least one of the parties at war begins to look silly and petty. I’m thinking of how Rand Paul keeps baiting Chris Christie with more peace summit offers, only to have Christie repeatedly reject his offer with much fanfare and bluster. “I pick My Wife over Rand Paul!!” This reminds people of how egotistic and venal Christie can be. So ‘9th Grade Mean Girl” in his behavior. Maybe Cruz is offering McCain a chance to make up for the Wacko Birds name or dig himself into a deeper rut.


18 posted on 09/11/2013 1:23:51 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: markomalley

Just call him the Grim Reaper.


19 posted on 09/11/2013 1:24:17 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: markomalley
Maybe NxCain should go ahead and lie down in that coffin and let his family bury him, even if he's not dead.

It's in the interest of the nation...

20 posted on 09/11/2013 1:24:33 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: markomalley

Dick....


21 posted on 09/11/2013 1:26:17 PM PDT by freebilly (Creepy and the Ass Crackers....)
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To: markomalley

He gets work every single day. What next? Maybe he thinks zero should declare himself king for life?

India has people that have been killing women over dowries, maybe we should bomb them too McLame?

How about in France and England where Muslims are protesting? Should we bomb them too McLame?

Where in the world does it end?


22 posted on 09/11/2013 1:34:18 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: markomalley

Further proof of how law-abiding the right wing and gun-owners are: Juan McCain is still breathing.


23 posted on 09/11/2013 1:42:34 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Bullish

“One of America’s ‘vital national interests’ should be to rid our politics of idiots like John McCain.”

McCain; For God’s sake, “BOMB SOMEBODY!!!!!!!!”


24 posted on 09/11/2013 1:43:31 PM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: markomalley

I’ve got a proposal. I’ll agree to a regime change if we can replace Assad with McCain. That way he can have a war for the rest of his life and he will be an ally to the communist. We win and he wins.
I should have been a diplomat.


25 posted on 09/11/2013 1:47:21 PM PDT by DeWalt
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To: markomalley

The ONLY thing I would give Obongo approval to “Bomb”are the”Same-Sex Senators”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


26 posted on 09/11/2013 1:48:06 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: markomalley

McLoser loves to lob bombs. He’s a hot head.


27 posted on 09/11/2013 1:50:10 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Thank You!


28 posted on 09/11/2013 1:50:11 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: markomalley
The folks in Colorado just voted to recall a couple of anti gun politicians , maybe the folks in AZ, can do the same to the over the hill douche .
29 posted on 09/11/2013 1:51:57 PM PDT by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: markomalley

Don’t these two yahoos realize it’s over with Syria? Obama was totally played by Putin and we are going to do nothing.

Frankly, reading McCain’s statement, I think his senility is becoming worse


30 posted on 09/11/2013 1:53:16 PM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: markomalley

Maybe McJohn should go ahead and @#%*(&^_(*#@!

Raise your hand if you’re ashamed to have your vote for Palin in ‘08 be connected to him. Whatever will my grandkids think of me...


31 posted on 09/11/2013 1:56:05 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: markomalley

Can’t believe no one likes my proposal. Free Republic, where dreams are cruched


32 posted on 09/11/2013 2:03:07 PM PDT by DeWalt
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To: markomalley
A post that never, but never goes out of style.....

Oh, McCain.....You've done it again!!!

33 posted on 09/11/2013 2:06:47 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (Mi tio es enfermo, pero la carretera es verde!)
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To: markomalley

To think that he replaced Barry Goldwater, a true statesman.


34 posted on 09/11/2013 2:18:42 PM PDT by bobo1
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To: markomalley

“You know, there’s probably a reason 225 times presidents didn’t come to Congress. I don’t know if I’d come to talk with us.”

Good stuff. The patriots in South Carolina are using quotes like this from Linda Gramnesty to drive his approval rating down.

In a bit over a year, various radio ads in SC have driven Graham’s approval rating down from 71% to 42%, according to the most recent poll. It’s becoming very likely that Graham will not be in the senate after the 2014 election.


35 posted on 09/11/2013 2:55:21 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: markomalley

McCain and Bohner too might be the greediest SOBs in all of government.

They might be worse liars and scam artists than Reid.


36 posted on 09/11/2013 2:58:27 PM PDT by Truth2012
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To: markomalley
The house needs to go ahead and vote on this today because that is exactly what is going to happen if they do not.

Let Obama and McCain go to war against the will of the people and watch the fall out of that maneuver when the people have made it clear they have had enough.

37 posted on 09/11/2013 3:04:25 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: markomalley

I think Obama should resort to Drone Strikes....on McCain... However ,since McCain is his best friend with benefits , I truly doubt this will ever happen.


38 posted on 09/11/2013 3:05:13 PM PDT by contrarian (disclaimer I do not advocate harming the old fart, Call him home Lord..)
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To: markomalley

shut up Juan; please go some where and off your self quietly, and take Gramnesty with you.


39 posted on 09/11/2013 3:16:44 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

We would be immediately convicted of WAR CRIMES by the UN at the Hague.


40 posted on 09/11/2013 3:19:49 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Better put a stake in his heart if you expect to keep him down.


41 posted on 09/11/2013 3:22:46 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Does AZ have a recall provision? Now would be a great chance to get rid of the old fool.


42 posted on 09/11/2013 3:23:21 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: markomalley
“They’re not going to impeach the president. They’re not that crazy,” he told reporters after the event…

So McCain knows it's an impeachable offense...

43 posted on 09/11/2013 4:07:38 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Hugin

I wish they did, we are now stuck with this lunatic for another 4 years.


44 posted on 09/11/2013 6:05:46 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: markomalley

More and more ga-ga every day.


45 posted on 09/11/2013 7:10:07 PM PDT by La Lydia
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