Skip to comments.Sources: US weapons stolen in Libya raids, fueling Special Forces pull-out
Posted on 09/11/2013 1:24:51 PM PDT by don-o
Highly sensitive U.S. military equipment stored in Libya was stolen over the summer by groups likely aligned and working with terrorist organizations, State Department sources told Fox News -- in raids that contributed to the decision to pull Special Forces personnel from the country.
The stolen equipment had been used by U.S. Special Forces stationed in the country. Lost in the raids in late July and early August were dozens of M4 rifles, night-vision technology and lasers used as aiming devices that are mounted on guns and can only be seen with night-vision equipment.
"This stuff is how we win wars. The enemy doesn't have that," one source said.
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I’m sure the syrian ‘alqaeda’ ‘rebels’ will be greatly appreciative though!
Errrrrrr, until now.
I’m sure they were “stolen”.
Well, they do now!
The REAL issue is the MANPADS --THAT is what to prevent you from focusing on.
400 were stolen on 9-11 but the total load was 21,000 of which 5,000 were non-servicable and destroyed.
That leaves 15,600 MANPADS, some of which transited Bengazi prior to 9-11.
They were mostly SA-7's --old and very vulnerable to such simple countermeasures as flares. BELOW:
Also with the SA-7 featured above the target must be silhouetted against bare sky for the seeker to "see" the target. So if I'm a hilltop rebel trying to fire on a helicopter approaching from low in a valley using the SA-7 Grail, then forget it, the missile sees nothing, since there is a mountain behind him.
But After Reagan's air attack against Khadaffi (much later it turned out his daughter was not killed in the raid, as he'd claimed for many years), Khadaffi imported newer Soviet AA missiles, also, like the SA-24 Grinch, below, and THIS is the real problem:
It flies at Mach 2, reaches up above 10,000 feet, and the aircraft needn't be seen against empty sky for targeting. Also the Grinch needn't score a physical hit for detonation --it also comes equipped with proximity fusing, so if senses an impending bypass, it will still trigger. Also if there is remaining fuel, this, too, will be blown in the explosion as a kicker. Even with jamming and flares, about one in four Grinches will score a hit, generally.
What type of success might it get against commercial aircraft in their current form...? The Obama Admin does NOT want to talk about this at all.
The Libyan smugging was a WH/JSOC op, which means VJ BHO Hillary and John Brennan giving orders to a bunch of really secret squirrels who don't ask questions and won't squeal.
They killed some people who got mad, got outside help and fought back, zapping our four guys.
Well , they didn't used to have it
..but they have it now !(laser , night vision,arms, etc. )
...they were found before they were lost.
More like they wuz barrohd.
The cover story is “stolen”. They real story is “gift”
Obama is the most incompetent commander in chief we have ever had, and that is including Jimmy Carter.
I see. Trying to get the “stolen” meme out before it hits the fan.
LOL! The -resident will need more than two hands to cover his.. but I digress
Our special forces left because they “stole” our weapons?
Did I read that right?
Ah, now that makes the whole thing clearer.
They do now................
I’m still trying to figure SF ‘allowing’ their weapons to be stolen.
The transfers of US technology to al Qaeda occurred
BEFORE the Benghazi atrocity ... and thereafter.
It is to murder Americans who the US Congress and Obama
were just too lazy to kill by ObamaCARE.
Fast & Furious II?
It's just shocking that that would happen in Libya! Well, lesson learned. We'll never let that happen again. /s
At least ol’ Jimmah was IN THE MILITARY before....................................It ought to be a part of the Constitution that any future Presidents must have served HONORABLY in the US military. Yeah, John Kerry and John McCain notwithstanding..............
Nope Hillary gave this stuff to the rebels to oust kadafi... and they werent ready to give it back.....
Wait....We STILL have special forces in Libya??
Previous story - August 23that seems to have not been posted here
Team involved in tracking Benghazi suspects pulling out, sources say
Is this sorta like the 20,000 missing M-14's that were lost/ stolen in Quatar from an unsecured warehouse ?
.. Just more of the same !
At the same time our own _Resident is attempting to take away American citizen's 2nd amendment rights ?
Does anybody else see the inconsistancies in this administration ?
I don't trust his judgement , or his speeches !
He is NOT incompetent.
This has been the plan from Day-1...and he's succeeding!
I don’t trust his allegiance.
Some of that stuff will reveal it's position, so maybe we wanted to let at least some of it fall into enemy hands to see where it ends up.
Fast And Furious 2: North Africa!
Of course, none of these “thefts” ar actually thefts. They are transfers of weapons to the insurgents made to look like thefts and the same with the ammo being bought by DHS. Obama is arming the MB right in front of everyone’s faces and they are too dense to notice.
Did the Russians actually sell any SA-24s to Libya?
Also, the SA-24 isn’t necessarily mounted (as shown in your picture), it is very capable as a shoulder lauched system (weighs only about 40 pounds).
The GOP won’t investigate this because they blessed it.
They do, now.
In fairness I heard experts determined that some of the Bengazi SA-24’s were sourced from the Czeck Republic, or nearby.
Luckily I heard most of the guesses put the majority of the load as being SA-7’s.
So it’s not the very best stuff.
Well no Beaver, we didn't let them take them, they stole them.
Oh..ok Wally, that's different, I guess.
He doesn't have an allegiance .. , only an agenda !
All of his actions point to the success of that agenda.
When was the last time you saw an unsecured , not-guarded armory ?
Or a state of the art electronics without a self-destruct charge ?
Insanity is the act of repeating the same exact behavior and expecting a different outcome
If the Benghazi outpost attack was Fast and Furious Part II
Then this is Fast and Furious Part III ~ 'the insanity repeated' , and I think the leadership did this intentionaly
a yellow line in the snow
“military equipment stored in Libya...”
Kinda like leaving you gold bullion out on the front porch in Chicago.
...from right there where the Russkies go.
I don’t disagree with anything you are saying. But I think this armory theft is a head fake. It’s a red herring designed to lead away from the real reason these SF guys were pulled out of Libya. They were getting close to nailing the Benghazi attackers.
“future Presidents must have served HONORABLY in the US military. Yeah, John Kerry and John McCain notwithstanding”
The character of Kerry’s service was not honorable. He should have been court-martialed for cowardice in the face of the enemy.
How come nothing good ever happens to US? It's weird, it just seems like we have really, really bad luck. Hmm
Its a red herring designed to lead away from the real reason these SF guys were pulled out of Libya. They were getting close to nailing the Benghazi attackers.
I wonder if Obamugabe will let the MB know when and how these SF guys are leaving, i.e., set them up like he did with the guys who were on the UBL mission.
Probably so !
It seems that the press can always find these guys for a news commentary , but the military , not so much .
Have you ever heard of Zippey ever getting responsibility / resitution action against any Muslim attrocity ?
Nope ,.. me neither !
A lot of bluster , yes ,..a lot of talk , but never any substantive action !
Is this just a leak to soften the blow when the real “stolen” stuff is identified? => So then the media will dutifully follow standard operating procedure and label it all “old news”.
You can see right through the propaganda now...it’s old hat.
I spoke too soon - I just heard Russia stopped Barack Obama from starting Armageddon - well, that’s pretty cool
There were gifted by us to be used against us...There must be something other than a woodchuck in the woodpile...
Americans need to wake up and realize once and for all that all this "incompetence" is in reality what obozo and his gang are deliberately doing to destroy our republic.
Why am I thinking this stuff was stolen from Benghazi and not Tripoli. In the CIA compound were not one but two warehouses full of arms on their way to Syria. If they are used against airliners Benghazi will be in the news again