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Poll: Republicans embracing libertarian priorities
Politico ^ | 9/11/13 | JAMES HOHMANN

Posted on 09/11/2013 1:56:48 PM PDT by wmfights

Two-thirds of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents said they want their member of Congress to “keep their promises and stick to principles” as opposed to “compromise in a bipartisan way to get things done.”

“From Obamacare on down, sticking to principle is where the Republican base is today,” said David Kirby, vice president of opinion research at FreedomWorks. “It’s an example of how off the Republican establishment is from their base.”

Social issues have become less salient to GOP voters: 41 percent said gay marriage is not one of their top 10 issues. Asked about abortion, about one-third said it is one of the top three issues they care about; another third said it is not in the top three but somewhere in the top 10 and the final third said it is not one of their top 10 concerns.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/poll-republicans-libertarian-96576.html#ixzz2ecUQmr3o

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To: gusty

What fringe?


161 posted on 09/11/2013 9:24:14 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I’m commenting about posters, like the guy who responded to me above, not any public figures. Fortunately those types never win any election.


162 posted on 09/11/2013 9:30:50 PM PDT by gusty
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To: gusty

Again, what “fringe”?

And considering who does win elections, certain people on here would be far more acceptable.


163 posted on 09/11/2013 9:33:17 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
They were the “public face of social conservatism” only because the liberals said they were.

No, I'm not going to let you get away with that.

The Joe-sixpack social conservative got sucked in by Bush's "Heartfelt Christianity" talk.

They voted for him and own him.

164 posted on 09/11/2013 9:35:30 PM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: Olog-hai

You’re kidding me. You do not believe that there is any fringe elements. They are the whack jobs, the nutters, the people you try to avoid.


165 posted on 09/11/2013 9:47:16 PM PDT by gusty
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To: Arrowhead1952

That’s the excuse I recall Bob Grant giving to abortion. Disgraceful.


166 posted on 09/11/2013 10:18:10 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Olog-hai

Then next time I suggest being more specific with your questions.


167 posted on 09/12/2013 3:39:15 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: manc

I’m in favor of the govenment operating under the rules the founders set out in Article 1, Section 8. Are you saying that the founders were communists? That might explain some of your contempt for the constitution.


168 posted on 09/12/2013 3:42:11 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: manc

If you want to address those things in your state and your state’s constitution gives it that authority, knock yourself out. But on the federal level, you need to cite the part of Article 1, Section 8 or a constitutional amendment that gives it authority to act on those things. If you’re so worried about drugs being sold next to school kids then you should be all for legalization just like with alcohol. Nobody sells whiskey on school playgrounds because there is no profit in that. It’s just more efficient for retail stores to meet that demand. But you don’t really care about the children. They’re just your excuse for a busybody police state, just like with the liberals.


169 posted on 09/12/2013 3:55:02 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Orangedog

yet you are the one endorsing communist/socialist agendas, rule 26 look it up.

Also seeing as you mention the founders then do you seriously think for one minute that they wanted homosexuals to marry, have sex with little 7 year olds and give drugs to little kids while having sex in public outside a school?

No did not think so so lets get a bit more real about article 8 and the founders plus it is they who used Govt to marry, yes they used judges to marry people too.

Do you want grown ups to have sex with 12 year olds?
Do you want sex to be done in public on the street in front of kids?
Do you want a whore house next to a school?
Do you want to get rid of incest?

Anyone who states yes to any of these needs to stay in their house for their lives because they’re mentally sick twisted perverted scumbags


170 posted on 09/12/2013 4:27:28 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Orangedog

HUH you’re not in the real world are you.
Make drugs legal because beer is not sold in playgrounds.\\\

That is your rational, WOW,

Govt has rules about selling beer or having beer in a playground at school, do you understand that?

Can’t have a bar next to a school too/\.

Again you are pushing the rule 26 and other rules right form the communist manifesto.

Maybe you have not read it so here you go.

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm.

Go through each rule and ask yourself are you for that.

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.\\YOU’RE DOING THAT NOW

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.\YES

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.PAUL NUTS ALWAYS DO THIS

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.DOING IT AGAIN

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.” YOU;VE JUST DONE THAT ON HERE

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press. YES YES YES YES YES

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. YES YES YES YES

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”
YES YES YES YES
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.” YES YES YES

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.” YES YES YES

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
ON THIS THREAD ONE HAS SAID THE TIMES HAVE CHANGED
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
YES YES YES
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture—education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI. YES YES YES

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use [”]united force[”] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.


171 posted on 09/12/2013 4:35:38 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: GeronL

THEY HAVE NTO THOUGHT about the real world or others they live in a liberal utopia


172 posted on 09/12/2013 4:36:14 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: GeronL

I;ve asked about sex age laws many times and I never get an answer, nor on incest, bestiality, sex in public or selling drugs outside schools because they know they will be perceived to be sick scumbags if they say they agree


173 posted on 09/12/2013 4:42:35 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

I try to type this slow enough for you to understand since you have issues with reading comprehension. If your state’s constitution allows it, you need address those issues at the state level because THERE IS NO CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO ACT ON THEM. If you don’t like that, then have your member of congress subits the appropriate amendment to the constitution. The founders spelled out quite clearly how to do that. They didn’t put a footnote at the end saying “forget all that bullsh*t we just wrote, go ahead and do whatever the hell you want.”


174 posted on 09/12/2013 4:45:59 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: manc

Get back to me when you have something more than a book you want to cut and paste as a comment. Post your spam to someone who cares.


175 posted on 09/12/2013 4:51:27 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Orangedog
No answers to allowing incest, no sex age laws, public sex , public bestiality, selling drugs in schools , child sex, or rape . what a wonderful world for you. have sex in public in the street with little 12 year olds. Sell drugs and women next to a K school. have sex with a dog on the street or a fair. rape legal I'm sick already writing this
176 posted on 09/12/2013 5:14:09 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

I’m sorry that you’re too stupid to see where more than once I posted to make those laws at the state level if you want. Perhaps your reason for continually trying to hump my leg on the incest issue is due to you being the product of 1st cousins interbreeding. It would explain your complete and total lack of reading comprehension.


177 posted on 09/12/2013 5:47:45 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Orangedog

ah the insults one after the other


178 posted on 09/12/2013 5:51:20 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

Yep. They do say things such as they oppose laws meant to protect children blah blah blah.

They will call a conservative who would shrink the federal government by 95% a big government nanny statist if they don’t want to “legalize” drugs, prostitution etc


179 posted on 09/12/2013 6:10:11 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

pout out the communist rules and they see they are more in tune with the hard left, hell I know liberals which are disgusted by what some liberaltarians want.

They will ignore facts, ignore questions because they know they sound sick if they answer those questions, sex with animals in public, homosexual man having sex with a 14 year boy at a fair for all to see, having prostitutes outside a school for 5 year olds to see.

They don’t any laws because they want to get away with their drugs, child molestation, public sex etc.

Then thye wonder why conservatives don’t want them or don’t want them using our platform to spout their perversions


180 posted on 09/12/2013 6:20:55 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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