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Poll: Republicans embracing libertarian priorities
Politico ^ | 9/11/13 | JAMES HOHMANN

Posted on 09/11/2013 1:56:48 PM PDT by wmfights

Two-thirds of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents said they want their member of Congress to “keep their promises and stick to principles” as opposed to “compromise in a bipartisan way to get things done.”

“From Obamacare on down, sticking to principle is where the Republican base is today,” said David Kirby, vice president of opinion research at FreedomWorks. “It’s an example of how off the Republican establishment is from their base.”

Social issues have become less salient to GOP voters: 41 percent said gay marriage is not one of their top 10 issues. Asked about abortion, about one-third said it is one of the top three issues they care about; another third said it is not in the top three but somewhere in the top 10 and the final third said it is not one of their top 10 concerns.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/poll-republicans-libertarian-96576.html#ixzz2ecUQmr3o

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1 posted on 09/11/2013 1:56:48 PM PDT by wmfights
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The LORD still judges. A GOP that continues to abandon such conservative principles will be delivered into the hands of its enemies.
2 posted on 09/11/2013 1:59:27 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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So. What does sticking to principles and keeping promises have to do with libertarian priorities?

Another case where the headline and the article do not match.


3 posted on 09/11/2013 2:00:03 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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A slight majority, 52 percent, said government should not promote any particular set of values, compared with 40 percent who think government should promote “traditional values.”

I think people don't understand that "traditional values" find their foundation in Scripture rather than the "anything goes values" of today which are based on the emotions of the human heart.

4 posted on 09/11/2013 2:02:02 PM PDT by wmfights
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They’re based on the emotions of a non-human heart too.


5 posted on 09/11/2013 2:05:15 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: wmfights

“compromise in a bipartisan way to get things done.”

Bipartisanship: When the stupid party and the evil party get together and do something that is both stupid and evil.


6 posted on 09/11/2013 2:06:02 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Olog-hai
The LORD still judges.

Amen!

A GOP that continues to abandon such conservative principles will be delivered into the hands of its enemies.

They certainly will lose their most loyal voting bloc, Evangelical Christians.

It seems to me that as we attract libertarians a great deal of education needs to be done about where the foundation of a moral code should be found and why. I think most libertarians will argue that the human heart is good.

7 posted on 09/11/2013 2:06:33 PM PDT by wmfights
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You are confusing classical libertarianism with the Libertarian party.

/johnny

8 posted on 09/11/2013 2:06:33 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Responsibility2nd
What does sticking to principles and keeping promises have to do with libertarian priorities?

It's sort of like campaigning as being a supporter of small government and freedom and, you know, actually meaning it.

9 posted on 09/11/2013 2:07:10 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: wmfights

They are going to lose a lot more voters than they could hope to gain.


10 posted on 09/11/2013 2:08:17 PM PDT by GeronL
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"What does sticking to principles and keeping promises have to do with libertarian priorities?"

The "commonality" must mean that Government Control over everyones' lives is a Priority of BOTH?

I believe that taking an Oath to "uphold and protect The Constitution" should be a Priority to ALL Parties, likewise, Federal Government limited to EXPLICITLY STATED Constitutional Power, not Reserved to the States, has been sh#t-canned by Activist/Over-Reaching USSC Decisions (like Anchor Babies, The Commerce Clause, Affirmative Action, for examples).

11 posted on 09/11/2013 2:08:28 PM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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RINO’s embrace Democrats. The GOP needs Libertarians and Tea Party people to take over and kick out the entrenched elites...
12 posted on 09/11/2013 2:08:38 PM PDT by Farnsworth ("The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness...This and no)
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The article is poorly formulated and written. ‘Giving the journalist an F on this one. And the idea that Republicans are not driving the abortion issue is pure bogus. Look at our recent victories in Texas and North Dakota. That was the grassroots that pushed that. If anything, we should be driving the anti-infanticide movement into high gear. It’s a winning issue.


13 posted on 09/11/2013 2:13:16 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: JRandomFreeper

The article has nothing to do with classical libertarianism.

It’s a puff piece about social liberals and RINO’s in the GOP.


14 posted on 09/11/2013 2:13:18 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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A lot of these people would rather sit in a squalid FEMA camp ruled by hillary clinton than have fedgov operate within the confines of Article 1, Section 8. They’re desire to meddle in the lives of others is that strong.


15 posted on 09/11/2013 2:14:45 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: wmfights

I think most libertarians will argue that the human heart is good
They are going right against the Bible in that case. And even worse, I think they know it, too.
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

— Jeremiah 17:9

16 posted on 09/11/2013 2:15:34 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: GeronL
They are going to lose a lot more voters than they could hope to gain.

That's my thinking as well. I'm not going to be able to go to the polls and vote if "traditional values" are thrown over board for political expediency.

I have two children in college and when they bring friends by we will discuss issues like homosexual marriage. Almost all of them start out in favor of it. I will ask them what is the basis of the moral code that society should be governed by. In some cases they revise their thinking.

It seems to me that in a culture that wants "bumper sticker answers" to problems we are fighting at a disadvantage. Conservative principals are based in a much more complex rigor of thought.

17 posted on 09/11/2013 2:17:54 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: Orangedog
I agree with you. America, at least the voting majority have become sheep and imbecile's.
18 posted on 09/11/2013 2:18:13 PM PDT by Farnsworth ("The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness...This and no)
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To: Olog-hai
They are going right against the Bible in that case. And even worse, I think they know it, too.

My experience has been that they have never given it much thought. Often if you can get a discussion going you can get them thinking about it.

19 posted on 09/11/2013 2:21:04 PM PDT by wmfights
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If this is meant to imply the GOP is now cozying up to issues like fag-marriage, dope, open-borders, and other such degeneracy... well, it can count me out.


20 posted on 09/11/2013 2:23:39 PM PDT by greene66
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