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Jerry Brown urges OK of amended bill to raise minimum wage
Sacramento Bee ^ | September 11, 2013 | by Jeremy B. White

Posted on 09/11/2013 4:22:49 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Gov. Jerry Brown said Wednesday that he supports raising the minimum wage in California to $10 an hour, urging lawmakers to approve a bill.

The measure would raise the minimum hourly wage from $8 to $9 on July 1, 2014, and then to $10 on Jan. 1, 2016.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; economics; minimumwage

1 posted on 09/11/2013 4:22:49 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Tack on a zero, make it an even HUndred. Otherwise, you’re just being cheap, Jerry.


2 posted on 09/11/2013 4:24:29 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Why haven't we heard from the 30 Benghazi survivors?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Between Obamacare and this crap, they are going to kill retired people.


3 posted on 09/11/2013 4:27:29 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Why not? The real minimum wage in California is what an illegal immigrant will accept. Raise the minimum wage on the actual citizens as high as you like, Jerry, there’s always new labor that will do it for less.


4 posted on 09/11/2013 4:27:45 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Jerry Brown has done more than any single individual to turn California from a paradise into a socialist wasteland.

But I guess its what most of the idiots living here now want.

5 posted on 09/11/2013 4:34:20 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: mylife
Between Obamacare and this crap, they are going to kill retired people.

Agreed and, BTW, I truly believe thats by design.

Old people - people who remember a free America - are an electoral pain in the statist/leftist/progressive ass.

6 posted on 09/11/2013 4:36:25 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Who can support a family on 9 or 10 dollars an hour, why not end poverty altogether and make it thirty dollars an hour. /s

I guess they think thirty dollars an hour is to much to pay for votes.


7 posted on 09/11/2013 4:37:02 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Between the disconnect these imbeciles have with the current economic conditions with crap like this and the morons in DC falling all over themselves to legalize a multi-million strong underclass, I don’t know whether to laugh or cry anymore.


9 posted on 09/11/2013 4:41:40 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Minimum wage employees should get paid as much as the retired California state employees get paid, at least $100,000 per year for life. Why not? It is fair. It is for the children and the environment. /s


11 posted on 09/11/2013 4:43:58 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Oh good grief........do liberals know anything about running a business?


12 posted on 09/11/2013 4:47:14 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Lord that is awful. Now what are those McDonald’s people going to do. The Governor of California is awfully mean.....15 dollars!!!! Although it must be tough to live on even 15 dollars an hour in California. I guess people live with family.


13 posted on 09/11/2013 4:51:22 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: skeeter

Amen. Escape as soon as you are able.


14 posted on 09/11/2013 4:51:26 PM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.g)
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To: svcw

This is off subject but relates to Calif Congress. I got news today that people who live on the coast will be charged more for electricity than people inland. Reason is because coast people use less and the inlanders use more so their bills are higher — this will even things out. Brown set to sign that one too. Is that constitutional? Does any other state do that?


15 posted on 09/11/2013 4:53:14 PM PDT by bunster
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To: skeeter

I think you are onto something.


16 posted on 09/11/2013 4:57:22 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: bunster

Unknown......as it always does when people reduce, they are charged more for what they do use.
I have a property in the desert, the desert mind you, and am being charged $150 a year because I have a septic system.
It is Sacramento that is the problem not the rest o the state.


17 posted on 09/11/2013 4:57:38 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: bunster
I just read an article on that at Fuel Fix.

There are a lot of different parts to the legislation, but the part you are talking about is ending some rate change restrictions established in 2000-2001 when they had those Enron electricity shortages.

18 posted on 09/11/2013 5:06:56 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The laws of economics do not have loopholes.

Minimum wage jobs are for entry level positions, not to raise a family.
If your work skills are such that you're unable to progress beyond doing simple manual tasks, you are a candidate to be replaced by automated equipment.

The decision point between manual labor and automation is the cost.
Thus the higher the wages, the more likely the employer will purchase equipment to replace the employee. For instance computer answering machine replaces a receptionist, a food vending machine replaces a cashier, an ATM replaces a teller, automated car wash systems replace hand washing, self service facilities replace various types of attendants, etc., etc.

19 posted on 09/11/2013 5:08:40 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: Ben Ficklin

I’m going to check out Fuel Fix but to me it doesn’t seem fair. Somehow ending a rate restriction on a utility sounds like a rate raise.


20 posted on 09/11/2013 5:22:17 PM PDT by bunster
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To: svcw

“Oh good grief........do liberals know anything about running a business?”
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As Momma used to say, “As much as a cat knows about a Sunday school book.” If they understood the reality of business they would not be liberals.


21 posted on 09/11/2013 5:26:37 PM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: RipSawyer

I wish there were like buttons.
LIKE


22 posted on 09/11/2013 5:37:32 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“The measure would raise the minimum hourly wage from $8 to $9 on July 1, 2014, and then to $10 on Jan. 1, 2016.”

Arent some union members raises tied to the raises of the minimum wage? If so, doesnt this mean that they will be getting raises three times automatically in a row?


23 posted on 09/11/2013 5:50:33 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

California is too big. Either become a sovereign nation or split into four or five other states.


24 posted on 09/11/2013 6:21:56 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: svcw

“Oh good grief........do liberals know anything about running a business?”

Actually, they do...into the ground.


25 posted on 09/11/2013 6:43:31 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Good demon rats should insist that everyone should get the same wage. Burger flippers should get the same as prevailing wage laborers, union reps, and teamster truck drivers. Why settle for a minimum wage when you can have true equality in Kalifornia.


26 posted on 09/11/2013 7:18:45 PM PDT by BOBWADE (RINOs suck)
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To: bunster
CA had deregulated electricity and the voters/ratepayers had approved that, based on the fact that their rates would supposedly not go up.

There were natural gas shortages and Enron was gaming the system so the price had to go up, but because these rates were not allowed to rise, the blackouts were worse. To compensate, the power companies raised the rates on the other/higher tier ratepayers.

That was during the nat gas shortages in 2000-2001. It happened again during the post-hurricane Katrina nat gas shortages, except there were no blackouts.

Texas was/is like CA. The texas market was deregulated and Texas generates a high percentage of her electricity from nat gas. So the Texas rate payers were getting hit hard. But in Texas the lower tier rate payers were not protected like those in CA.

Anyway, now, there is a glut of cheap natural gas.

27 posted on 09/12/2013 4:49:37 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Do I have it right now? Calif is NOT targeting coastal cities (as the newscaster stated) but just bringing up the Low Tier rates to make up for the High Tier folks baring the brunt of past increases. If that’s right it makes sense.


28 posted on 09/12/2013 8:43:47 AM PDT by bunster
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