Posted on 09/11/2013 6:05:49 PM PDT by Daffynition
Vince Gill did something on Sunday that not many country singers are willing to do: he courted controversy. Prior to a concert in Kansas City, Missouri, Gill confronted protesters from the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kansas, who were picketing outside his concert to protest his divorce and remarriage, which they hold to be nothing more than a form of adultery. The church, which is nonaffiliated, has also protested against gays and Jews and at the funerals of U.S. soldiers killed in combat, in the belief that God is punishing the nation for its immorality.
At Kansas City’s Kauffman Center for the Arts, Gill walked up to the picket line where people carried placards saying, “God Is America’s Terror.”
“Vince Gill, what in the world are you doing out here?” a woman on the line asked.
“I just came to see what hate looked like,” he said.
“Well, more importantly,” the woman said, “what are you doing with another man’s wife?”
“I came out to see what hatred really looked like in the face.”
“Don’t you know that divorce plus remarriage equals adultery?” the woman asked. “Jesus Christ said that.”
“Did he?” Gill responded. “You know what else he said? He said a lot of stuff about forgiveness, about grace. You guys don’t have any of that.”
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WBC are a bunch of lawyers with a lawsuit money making scam, masquerading as a fundamentalist religion.
Gee, some folks here must’ve been absent from Sunday School when they covered ‘ye without sin cast the first stone’ and ‘you point out the speck in your brother’s eye but ignore the stick in yours’. Jesus said lots of things - don’t pick and choose the ones that are convenient.
well aumrl
what is marriage to you, eh? to stay together til someone richer comes along? Apparently that was her vow according to you
So if he was beating her, or abusing her in another way tough shit, right?
‘Apparently that was her vow according to you’
actually I try not to judge.
I am perfectly happy to let G-d do that; for both Amy, Vince, and me.
was he?
she could separate to protect herself, but no one ever said she was beaten, she just saw a big star and grabbed for the brass ring despite her vow
well you are a better man than I Gunga Din
Except....judge not lest ye be judged. The phelps clan are not sinless and will be judged the same as they judge....as you will.
Ephesians 5:25-28 Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish. In the same way husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.
So, exactly what were the reasons Christ gave to leave a marriage then? Could it be that a man who fails to love his wife as Christ loves His church, nor does that man love his wife as himself (drug abuse, physical abuse, etc..) qualify for divorce?
Unlike others, I won't pretend to speak for Christ on this topic. I cannot however envision that our Lord and Savior would want His children to remain in an abusive, destructive relationship. That just doesn't make sense.
That's your opinion. You weren't there, you don't know the facts. That in and of itself should stop you from hurling your accusations.
If you're going to quote scripture, I'd remind you about what Jesus said about gossip and speaking ill of others ....
What happened, Daffy, the Westboro nuts have infiltrated Free Republic?
Sure looks like it from a few of the posts here.....
Although it is wrong to divorce, the bible does say it is better remarry than to burn. I struggled with my divorce and even tried to forgive her being with someone else. She did it again and I gave her a divorce. I have remarried and do not see myself as a sinner for doing so.
what ? what did He say about gossip?
It must have been very difficult, I am sorry
Yep. This is a skunk fight.
See if you recognize yourself. (Hint: I bolded it so it's easy for you to find ..)
Ephesians 4:29 ESV
Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.
Proverbs 16:28 ESV
A dishonest man spreads strife, and a whisperer separates close friends.
Proverbs 6:16-19 ESV
There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.
Proverbs 21:23 ESV
Whoever keeps his mouth and his tongue keeps himself out of trouble.
Proverbs 20:19 ESV
Whoever goes about slandering reveals secrets; therefore do not associate with a simple babbler.
Proverbs 18:8 ESV
The words of a whisperer are like delicious morsels; they go down into the inner parts of the body.
James 1:26 ESV
If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless.
Titus 3:2 ESV
To speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people.
Psalm 34:13 ESV
Keep your tongue from evil and your lips from speaking deceit.
Proverbs 11:13 ESV
Whoever goes about slandering reveals secrets, but he who is trustworthy in spirit keeps a thing covered.
James 4:11 ESV
Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge.
Proverbs 17:4 ESV
An evildoer listens to wicked lips, and a liar gives ear to a mischievous tongue.
Psalm 101:5 ESV
Whoever slanders his neighbor secretly I will destroy. Whoever has a haughty look and an arrogant heart I will not endure.
Proverbs 26:20 ESV
For lack of wood the fire goes out, and where there is no whisperer, quarreling ceases.
Matthew 12:36 ESV
I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak,
Leviticus 19:16 ESV
You shall not go around as a slanderer among your people, and you shall not stand up against the life of your neighbor: I am the Lord.
2 Timothy 2:16 ESV
But avoid irreverent babble, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness,
1 Timothy 5:13 ESV
Besides that, they learn to be idlers, going about from house to house, and not only idlers, but also gossips and busybodies, saying what they should not.
Proverbs 10:18 ESV
The one who conceals hatred has lying lips, and whoever utters slander is a fool.
Proverbs 17:9 ESV
Whoever covers an offense seeks love, but he who repeats a matter separates close friends.
Romans 1:29 ESV
They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips,
Exodus 23:1 ESV
“You shall not spread a false report. You shall not join hands with a wicked man to be a malicious witness.
Psalm 64:2-4 ESV
Hide me from the secret plots of the wicked, from the throng of evildoers, who whet their tongues like swords, who aim bitter words like arrows, shooting from ambush at the blameless, shooting at him suddenly and without fear.
Philippians 4:8 ESV
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things.
1 Corinthians 13:1-13 ESV
If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing. Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; ...
Exodus 20:16 ESV
“You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
2 Corinthians 12:20 ESV
For I fear that perhaps when I come I may find you not as I wish, and that you may find me not as you wish—that perhaps there may be quarreling, jealousy, anger, hostility, slander, gossip, conceit, and disorder.
James 3:8 ESV
But no human being can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.
Proverbs 19:5 ESV
A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will not escape.
1 Thessalonians 4:11 ESV
And to aspire to live quietly, and to mind your own affairs, and to work with your hands, as we instructed you,
Ephesians 4:15-16 ESV
Rather, speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in every way into him who is the head, into Christ, from whom the whole body, joined and held together by every joint with which it is equipped, when each part is working properly, makes the body grow so that it builds itself up in love.
Ephesians 4:31 ESV
Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice.
Proverbs 26:22 ESV
The words of a whisperer are like delicious morsels; they go down into the inner parts of the body.
Jesus also said for us not to cast pearls before swine, so this will be my last post to you on this topic. You should seriously think about refraining from posting further yourself.
Titus 3:2 ESV
To speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people.
I will give you that one, the rest talk about lies
25 years ago and some of the hardest days of my life. Found a very nice lady with a strong Christian upbringing and we have been married for nearly 15 years now. I can truly say that I have been blessed.
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