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Judge: Strippers Must Be Paid At Least Minimum Wage
WCBS-TV / The Associated Press ^ | September 11, 2013

Posted on 09/11/2013 6:47:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A federal judge ruled this week that exotic dancers at a Midtown strip club are protected by labor laws and entitled to be paid at least a minimum wage.

The ruling came Tuesday in a class-action lawsuit brought by current and former dancers at Rick’s Cabaret, at 50 W. 33rd St. The lawsuit against Peregrine Enterprises – the subsidiary that operates the club – and the club’s Houston-based parent company, charged that the strippers were denied wages and required to pay a variety of fees to the club.

The club had argued that the dancers were independent contractors....

(Excerpt) Read more at newyork.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: economy; judiciary; minimumwage; vice
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1 posted on 09/11/2013 6:47:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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2 posted on 09/11/2013 6:51:05 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cruz-Paul 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This will lead to rampant unemployment in the stripper industry . . . Oh, wait . . .


3 posted on 09/11/2013 6:52:41 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Oh, sure, YOU try tipping them just minimum wage and see what happens (or doesn't, I should say)

So I've been told, that is.

4 posted on 09/11/2013 6:52:55 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Henceforth, the Office of the President shall be known as IMPOTUS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
strippers photo: Strippers Stripping.jpg
5 posted on 09/11/2013 6:53:05 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There are some out there who actually should be paying the audience to watch them.


6 posted on 09/11/2013 6:55:12 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d hit it

Moving on to more boring stuff....
Once the business has to pay them minimum wage (which I do not object to) making them no longer independent contracters, things are going to get complicated as regards a host of federal laws, including ObummerCare.

As an independent contractor, I don’t see how they can be such as the requirements are currently written. Most obvious, as IC they must be allowed to work whenever they please, not subject to a schedule the club sets. You know that is not the case.


7 posted on 09/11/2013 6:56:06 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If they must be paid minimum wage...convert them to contract workers and let them keep what they earn in tips.


8 posted on 09/11/2013 6:56:15 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.” Socrates)
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To: All

well, if minimum wage laws apply to strippers, shouldn’t discrimination laws apply also?
what about hiring old, fat ugly strippers with missing teeth?
where’s their justice?


9 posted on 09/11/2013 6:58:14 PM PDT by willywill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
sign outside a local booby bar. "Where else can you rent a girlfriend for a dollar?"
10 posted on 09/11/2013 7:00:12 PM PDT by digger48
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So they have to take a cut in pay?

It is not uncommon if you are even reasonably good to make $500 in a four hour hour shift.


11 posted on 09/11/2013 7:01:57 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
fat bastard photo: Fat Bastard fat_bastard.jpg
12 posted on 09/11/2013 7:03:24 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: PGR88

Yeah, and many times, those were the ones I paid a cover charge to see. OTOH, I’ve seen some that are prettier than most supermodels and Hollywood starlets.


13 posted on 09/11/2013 7:04:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows
What's this about strippers?


14 posted on 09/11/2013 7:04:08 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: svcw

I was thinking the same thing.

What stripper would want to be known as working for min wage?


15 posted on 09/11/2013 7:04:34 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Great, more judge made law. How about a return to the sanctity of contract? We need somebody in the Justice Department to bring out the big bat of the Commerce Clause.


16 posted on 09/11/2013 7:10:32 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A raise won’t help her as much as implants will


17 posted on 09/11/2013 7:11:03 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Not to worry...they will Unionize, and then, the only strippers available that you can afford will be Illegal Aliens (when they have Amnesty, they, too, will Unionize".

Ultimately, if you wanna see strippers in strip-clubs, you'll have to go "Offshore".....

18 posted on 09/11/2013 7:12:01 PM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Wouldja pay these strippers minimum wage?


19 posted on 09/11/2013 7:12:59 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Not only that, but “sexual harassment” laws were in abeyance, I should think, when they were “independent contractors” but would apply now, I would assume.


20 posted on 09/11/2013 7:16:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: qam1

Not every woman needs to be Norma Stitz.

21 posted on 09/11/2013 7:21:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: RoosterRedux

That’s what they’ve been doing until the judge ruled against them.


22 posted on 09/11/2013 7:22:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: willywill

“what about hiring old, fat ugly strippers with missing teeth?
where’s their justice?”

Ah.. You been to Bob’s.


23 posted on 09/11/2013 7:23:27 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Make today a great day. Insult a liberal.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One of jobs back in college was a strip club DJ.

Best job in my life until I got to Hollywood. It paid for my school (some of it) and I got credit for my business management thesis when I volunteered to balance the books. The “after work” activities I cant even say on the board LOL


24 posted on 09/11/2013 7:25:31 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So all of you waitresses out there serving us for $2 an hour and tips - you know what you have to do to make minimum wage, right?


25 posted on 09/11/2013 7:27:34 PM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: max americana

I’ve been a bouncer at several very fancy, exclusive clubs in DFW, so I can guess what you’re referring to. Not my fault, I didn’t damage them.


26 posted on 09/11/2013 7:29:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: ZOOKER

Minimum Wages for Tipped Employees
http://www.dol.gov/whd/state/tipped.htm


27 posted on 09/11/2013 7:31:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's obviously been awhile since I worked in food service.

I gave it up years ago when the boss wouldn't give me a raise because he'd have to give the servers one too. I pointed out that they lived on tips whereas I worked in the kitchen, never got a tip in my life...

28 posted on 09/11/2013 7:39:19 PM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another so called “judge” playing G-d. These clowns are a real pain in the @$$.


29 posted on 09/11/2013 7:52:19 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The time for impeachment has come.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Not every woman needs to be Norma Stitz.

That's fine, but if you are going to be a stripper you at least gotta be more fuller than Justin Bieber


30 posted on 09/11/2013 8:00:22 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: svcw
It is not uncommon if you are even reasonably good to make $500 in a four hour hour shift.

But, in my state they have to pay stage fees, DJ fees, and bar fees. Essentially they are renting the ability to perform at the club. That $500 a shift disappears quickly, and if she's new or at a crappy club (they don't get to pick) the girl can actually owe money to the club. That's when the "agent" (Pimp) gets her better paying work.

I'm all for the girls getting at least minimum wage. It will bring in better talent and reduce the pimping aspect.
31 posted on 09/11/2013 8:02:45 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: Revolting cat!

Nice can.


32 posted on 09/11/2013 8:08:56 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

$2.13 an hour is too much for those sluts


33 posted on 09/11/2013 8:10:30 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Tailback

Really?
You are in favor of the government setting wages?


34 posted on 09/11/2013 8:15:43 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: qam1

What a sad little example of a male he is. Between him and Miley Cyrus I weep for that generation. He reminds me of all the little college frat boys I had to 86 at the clubs I worked in. Didn’t even strain my back as I threw them 15 feet into the parking lot. Does he even weigh 120lbs?


35 posted on 09/11/2013 8:15:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So they have to be paid the bare minimum? B-)


36 posted on 09/11/2013 8:24:59 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: GeronL
those sluts

C'mon, Geron. Do you really have to inject that sort of thing into ever sex-related thread? Geez....

37 posted on 09/11/2013 8:37:40 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Here’s your tip...for most effective stripping action, apply it with a brush and let it sit for 30 minutes.


38 posted on 09/11/2013 8:54:41 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Windflier

yep


39 posted on 09/11/2013 9:10:36 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: PGR88

“Deja Vu Showgirls in Seattle.

1000’s of Beautiful Girls and 3 Ugly Ones.”

Like those three?


40 posted on 09/11/2013 9:20:55 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: GeronL

... sigh ...


41 posted on 09/11/2013 9:50:32 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They should be paid for less, not for more.


42 posted on 09/11/2013 9:56:32 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Windflier

> ...sigh...

Everybody’s gotta get off somehow.


43 posted on 09/11/2013 10:27:20 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Don’t the clubs have a waiting list of girls? So the girls pay to get stage time, like a band would. And if the girls don’t like their times, they cancel, and other girls take their time slots.

Even a pub’s “house band” is generally an independent contractor, and could simply stop showing up at any time, but then they would lose their slots.


44 posted on 09/11/2013 10:32:54 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: svcw
Really? You are in favor of the government setting wages?

In this case yes to prevent exploitation/prostitution. Are you in favor of indentured servitude and/or sex slavery?
45 posted on 09/11/2013 10:33:44 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: Tailback

Really? That’s a real question?


46 posted on 09/11/2013 10:36:46 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: dayglored
Everybody’s gotta get off somehow.

I guess. Think I'll just leave it at that.

47 posted on 09/11/2013 10:47:16 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: svcw

Yes it is a real question. Your response indicates that you are a Mike Huckaby style Republican.

We’ll agree to disagree on this subject.


48 posted on 09/11/2013 10:51:28 PM PDT by Tailback
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Well, here in NW Washington , one bunch of clubs owned by a certain family, didnt pay the girls anything, but charged them a fee to dance. So they had to make a certain amount to get out of the red. They didnt put a limit on how many could dance on a given night. So you can see why they got very high-pressure selling lap dances and so forth. The government has no business imposing a minimum wage, though, however well-intentioned. In King Co. they imposed a “4-foot rule”, meaning dancers and patrons had to stay 4 feet apart. Pretty hard doing a lap dance at that distance. Maybe it was Snohomish Co. and a 3 foot rule. Something like that.
Now that their patriarch has died, the family went into the bikini barista business. But their coffee stands got busted for being fronts for prostitution. A law officer also got in trouble for tipping them off with text messages when busts were iminent, etc. Apparently he received sexual favors for this.


49 posted on 09/12/2013 12:19:29 AM PDT by crazycatlady
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Shouldn’t be a problem, since most strippers have great tips.


50 posted on 09/12/2013 12:35:11 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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