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PA:Sheriff David May Have Illegally Denied Gun Permits To Hundreds Of People Who Applied
beavercountian.com ^ | 9 September, 2013 | By John Paul - Founder of BeaverCountian.com

Posted on 09/12/2013 4:25:03 AM PDT by marktwain

Sheriff George David has illegally denied concealed carry permits to hundreds of people who applied for them, according to some of the state’s top experts on the subject.

An investigation by the Beaver Countian has uncovered over 300 instances in the past two years where individuals who appear to qualify for gun permits under state law, were then denied the right to carry a concealed firearm because of additional policies created by Sheriff David.

Sheriff David requires individuals who are cleared to have a gun permit by the Pennsylvania Instant Check System (PICS is a system run by the Pennsylvania State Police) also be searched in the Pennsylvania Justice Network (JNET) database. David’s policy is to automatically deny gun permits to any individual who JNET shows has been convicted of any crime, even if that crime is not violent, was committed decades ago, and even if the offense is not a disqualifying one under Pennsylvania state law.

The Sheriff spells out this policy succinctly on the county’s official website, writing in bold lettering: “The application must have NO CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS.”

Individuals who have been found guilty of any criminal offense are then required by David to seek an expungement of their conviction through the courts before he will even consider granting a gun permit. If they are unable to get an expungement, or are unwilling to pay the necessary fees to obtain one, they are denied the right to carry a concealed firearm.

The Beaver Countian spoke to several individuals who were denied concealed carry permits because they entered into the Accelerated Rehabilitative Disposition (ARD) program for a single DUI charge, and others who were denied because they were convicted of a minor ungraded misdemeanor years ago.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; guncontrol; pa; secondamendment; sheriff
If you want to read some scary stuff about this Sheriff, this link shows a criminal case against him:

criminal charges filed against Sheriff George David

1 posted on 09/12/2013 4:25:03 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Look closely at the pictures in the background of the picture of this goon. You’ll see a couple with him and Bill Clinton.


2 posted on 09/12/2013 4:37:54 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: lightman

FYI, but you might have heard of him.


3 posted on 09/12/2013 4:42:50 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: marktwain

Try to get a gun permit in Maryland if you want a trip to fantasy land.


4 posted on 09/12/2013 4:57:37 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: marktwain
Sheriff David May Have Illegally Denied voting Permits To Hundreds Of African-Americans Who Applied

So far we have but two replies in this thread indicating not a lack of interest among FReepers over the Second Amendment but a tacit understanding that some amendments in the Bill of Rights are more equal than others and some interest groups are of more worth than others.

Suppose the headline which I have doctored above were accurate and the sheriff were denying African-Americans an identification card required for voting because somewhere in their distant past there was a questionable allegation of crime?

I will let the reader supply his own answer to that rhetorical question.


5 posted on 09/12/2013 5:06:03 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

Sue his ass.
PERSONAL liability for damages.


6 posted on 09/12/2013 5:09:59 AM PDT by Flintlock ("The redcoats are coming" -- TO SEIZE OUR GUNS!!--Paul Revere)
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To: marktwain

Ahh Beaver County. A world unto itself. Nothing “wrong” with the county per se, just a little “off”...Doesn’t surprise me in the least that lawful processes are being mucked with..


7 posted on 09/12/2013 5:10:31 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: nathanbedford

I would say you have the wrong county and color. You need to doctor your headline with an eastern PA county using crackers or meh-hee-cans.


8 posted on 09/12/2013 5:11:46 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Flintlock
Good answer.


9 posted on 09/12/2013 5:12:18 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: marktwain

String him up! AT the very least, he needs to be booted from office. No effing excuse.


10 posted on 09/12/2013 5:41:07 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Venturer

PA ain’t Maryland, thank God!

PA Constitution

Section 21 . Right to Bear Arms
The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.


11 posted on 09/12/2013 5:42:41 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

Alleghany county is a lot easier. Fill out a form, pay some cash and wait.
I went down to renew my CCW after I got the card and it took like 20 minutes. The people were cool as well. Heres a tip. After you get your new permit tell them to have a good day and they are shocked because they never have people say that to them.
But then I wish everyone a good day.


12 posted on 09/12/2013 5:46:22 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Venturer
Try to get a gun permit in Maryland if you want a trip to fantasy land.

Jersey, too.

13 posted on 09/12/2013 6:21:30 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: nathanbedford
Pennsylvania sadly has a long history of corrupt public officials - judges sending kids to prison so that their cronies in the prison can profit from it, judges inventing fake crimes and pocketing the fines, sheriffs like the one in the article ignoring the law, and many more.

And that's not even considering the more typical corruption and incompetence present in city and state government in places like Harrisburg PA.

14 posted on 09/12/2013 6:33:11 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: marktwain
The Beaver Countian spoke to several individuals who were denied concealed carry permits because they entered into the Accelerated Rehabilitative Disposition (ARD) program for a single DUI charge,

That doesn't make any sense. ARD is NOT a conviction. It is, legally, a deferment of action on a criminal charge until the rehab is completed. Then the charges are dropped.

15 posted on 09/12/2013 6:36:30 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Flintlock

Needs to be arrested and charged with the illegal activity of violating a constitutional right, worse than violating a law.


16 posted on 09/12/2013 6:37:09 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: marktwain

Thats what you get when you leave your God given rights to a two bit politician.


17 posted on 09/12/2013 6:38:56 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: Mashood

BINGO


18 posted on 09/12/2013 7:36:33 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of all problems.)
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To: P.O.E.; DaveLoneRanger

Ping for your lists.


19 posted on 09/12/2013 8:03:24 AM PDT by lightman (Prosecute the heresies; pity the heretics.)
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To: marktwain

Why is he not in jail? He has publicly admitted to breaking the law routinely.


20 posted on 09/12/2013 10:36:43 AM PDT by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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To: zeugma; All

“Why is he not in jail? He has publicly admitted to breaking the law routinely.”

Likely there are no penalties in the law for breaking it. I see this all the time. Laws are passed requiring officials to do or not do something, but there are no penalties in the law.

Scofflaws (mostly leftists) then just ignore the law and sneer “what ya goin ta do about it?”


21 posted on 09/12/2013 10:46:43 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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