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Vladimir Putin's comments on American exceptionalism, Syria cause a fuss
CNN ^ | September 12, 2013 | Jethro Mullen

Posted on 09/12/2013 6:43:39 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

(CNN) -- If Vladimir Putin wanted to get Americans' attention, he seems to have done a pretty good job.

The Russian president's op-ed article arguing against military intervention in Syria, published on The New York Times' website late Wednesday, set off a flurry of reactions -- some outraged, some impressed, and some just plain bemused.

Democratic Sen. Robert Menendez said the piece made him almost want to throw up.

Putin said he had written the opinion piece "to speak directly to the American people and their political leaders."

Putin makes his case in op-ed

Vladimir Putin's call for peace But he appeared to have raised some peoples' hackles with the last paragraph in which he disputed the idea of American exceptionalism.

It was a reference to President Barack Obama's address Tuesday night, in which he said that while America can't be a global cop, it ought to act when in certain situations.

"That's what makes us exceptional," Obama said. "With humility, but with resolve, let us never lose sight of that essential truth."

Putin's answer to that?

"It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation," he wrote.

He concluded with the line, "We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord's blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal."

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: obama; putin; syria

1 posted on 09/12/2013 6:43:39 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

“which he disputed the idea of American exceptionalism.”

Why did Obama do his apology tour?
Michelle “for the first time I’m proud of my country”


2 posted on 09/12/2013 6:46:25 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I bet the people of South Ossetia and Georgia are outraged and bemused as well.


3 posted on 09/12/2013 6:46:48 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Democratic Sen. Robert Menendez said the piece made him almost want to throw up.

I know what you mean, Bob. Some of us felt the same way when we heard you were flying underage girls to The Dominican Republican on a friend's plane so you could "legally" have sex with them.

4 posted on 09/12/2013 6:48:32 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
He concluded with the line, "We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord's blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal."

This whole episode is rocking my world.

First Pres--ent Screwtape channels Ronald Reagan, and now the leader of the most Godless country on earth channels God!

This truly is end times stuff.

5 posted on 09/12/2013 6:50:09 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Cant blame Putin when zer0 bends over and takes it. The BOHICA _residentcy.


6 posted on 09/12/2013 6:50:42 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Putin is right, except for the last part.


7 posted on 09/12/2013 6:50:48 AM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I don’t think Putin’s quite done with the noogies and wedgies he’s giving Obama.


8 posted on 09/12/2013 6:51:07 AM PDT by AU72
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

This is what O gets for implying that he and Putin cooked up a deal


9 posted on 09/12/2013 6:52:21 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Obama said the same thing about the US and the main stream media soiled themselves with joy when he did so.


10 posted on 09/12/2013 6:54:23 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

It is a bad translation. What Putin means is that all signatories to the U.N. Charter must play by the same rules, eg. no military attacks unless in direct self-defense, or if approved by the UNSC.


11 posted on 09/12/2013 6:54:40 AM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: Texas Eagle

You sure don’t know a lot about Russia and its religion. At least five generations of Christians in my family.


12 posted on 09/12/2013 6:57:54 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The Clown is the kiss of death to anything he touches. Putin is saying the Clown FUBAR the middle east. Where there was order, now there is chaos. He’s calling the Clown a dufus and not American exceptionalism.


13 posted on 09/12/2013 6:58:36 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
America is exceptional...other than Banana Republics, who else would have put an inexperienced, overtly mendacious and embarrassingly arrogant into our highest office?
14 posted on 09/12/2013 6:59:20 AM PDT by yoe ("They Come To America" order it now: http://www.theycometoamerica.com/buy-dvd/)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Democratic Sen. Robert Menendez said the piece made him almost want to throw up.

Funny how Senator Menendez's gag reflex can be held in check regarding his own perverted pedophilia excursions to the Dominican Republic. Only in the demented, diseased "mind" of a demonic libtard...

15 posted on 09/12/2013 6:59:40 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
We are all created equal....

Where have I heard thast before??

All men are created equal, they are endowed by their creator..

16 posted on 09/12/2013 6:59:44 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Talk about closing the loop.

First Soetoro channels Reagan. Than Putin channels God. And now Putin channels Soetoro.

Here is a link to a video where Soetoro poo-poos the concept of American Exceptionalism.


17 posted on 09/12/2013 7:01:55 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Anyone have a link to Putin's Op Ed, right at hand? As a rule, I don't turn to CNN and their interpretations of anyone's meaning about anything.

Oh, they're dependable for interpreting President Smallberries' worldview, I suppose. But then, as a rule, I have to filter out that one's words about nearly everything as well. Why invite a carnival barker into one's living room?

18 posted on 09/12/2013 7:02:35 AM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: listenhillary

Michelle’s words are probably the most divisive I have ever heard regarding blacks and whites...It makes me flame...


19 posted on 09/12/2013 7:02:52 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Don’t u love the irony. The left has been badmouthing American success and exceptionalism for decades and now when a foreigner shoves it in our faces they’re all outraged. What a joke. Everybody here knows Putin doesn’t mean a word of any of it and we take his op-ed for what it is. He’s jabbing away at the administration and having lots of fun doing it.


20 posted on 09/12/2013 7:03:00 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: Sacajaweau
You sure don’t know a lot about Russia and its religion. At least five generations of Christians in my family.

(sighhh) Not even going to engage.

Okay. I'll engage a little.

He's the leader of the most Godless GOVERNMENT on the planet.

Sheesh. Some people.

21 posted on 09/12/2013 7:04:03 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Prospero

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/opinion/putin-plea-for-caution-from-russia-on-syria.html?hp


22 posted on 09/12/2013 7:04:16 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Truth/Lies; Liberty/Tyranny--WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE??)
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To: Texas Eagle

http://global.christianpost.com/news/vladimir-putin-vows-to-defend-christianity-worldwide-69002/


23 posted on 09/12/2013 7:07:35 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
"It's extremely dangergous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the reason" he (Putin) said

That is true. Isn't part of our problem a few generations of baby-boomers and younger who were brought up thinking they're special?

America's exceptionalism was a result of being a people who would work hard, be innovative in solving problems, and do right for the world. We've lost our way as a nation.

24 posted on 09/12/2013 7:09:46 AM PDT by grania
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To: listenhillary
Did Putin really "dispute American exceptionalism?" Or is that what CNN says he said?

Of course Putin might have done just that, I know. But, again, this is the problem with seeing the world through CNN's spectacles. Once you've learned those goggles are like the "X-ray glasses" hawked in the back of old comic books (plus give you a headache and make you look ridiculous), it's natural to develop an aversion to putting them on, even for the weather.

25 posted on 09/12/2013 7:10:09 AM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: Sacajaweau
You win.

Next topic.

26 posted on 09/12/2013 7:10:26 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

What’s the big deal? Obastard spent his entire first year as Community Organizer in Chief trashing the notion of “American Exceptionalism.” Putin is just agreeing.


27 posted on 09/12/2013 7:11:20 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I thought Obama said we were not exceptional, now he wants to be exceptional?

Geez listen to this turd we have as President. He makes up his lies to suit his speech.

And where does he get this great idea that Muslims helped in the creation of this country?


28 posted on 09/12/2013 7:21:03 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Venturer

Newt wrote a book and I will post the reference. But he looks at it from a whole different viewpointthan Obama, ie.e, historically rather than righteous. Where it says read more...go for it.


29 posted on 09/12/2013 7:25:02 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

http://www.amazon.com/Nation-Like-No-Other-Exceptionalism/dp/1441793887


30 posted on 09/12/2013 7:25:13 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Prospero

In his own words.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/opinion/putin-plea-for-caution-from-russia-on-syria.html?src=twr&_r=0&;


31 posted on 09/12/2013 7:28:02 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Texas Eagle

BUMP!


32 posted on 09/12/2013 7:28:13 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Anyone can read Putin's Op Ed at the NY Times website, though there's no essential difference in the "beer goggles" they wear and those worn over at CNN. Hopefully their reprint of the Russian president's letter to the American people is a faithful translation.

His remarks regarding American exceptionalism only come at the very end of what is almost exclusively an appeal to strengthening the credibility of the United Nations Security Council.

Unfortunately, the remarks he made about his own understanding of "exceptionalism," marked as it is by Russia's latent fear of Nazi Germany, is what the demented press in the United States sets as the headline.

Putin compares "exceptionalism" to Obama's statements about the U.S. going it alone, unilateralism, and not from any appreciation for the U.S. and its role in founding and maintaining the modern West.

In short, Putin (like Obama) has no sense of American exceptionalism as expressed, for example, by Governor Palin. Nor should anyone expect him to understand what Americans believe about themselves and our historic role.

A U.S. president should, at the very least, understand (and rightly should share) Sarah Palin's understanding of that phrase. But, this administration has a greater misunderstanding and fear of its meaning than Putin.

Ironic, isn't it? An American president with genuine hatred for American exceptionalism lectured on the topic by a Russian leader who has mistaken it for unilateralism.

33 posted on 09/12/2013 7:35:26 AM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: Prospero

Reality is much stranger than any fiction.


34 posted on 09/12/2013 7:38:09 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: patriotspride
Well said. I'm lovin’ it!
35 posted on 09/12/2013 7:44:45 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

36 posted on 09/12/2013 8:00:32 AM PDT by TexasCajun (Creepy-Ass Cracka -- Don't Call Me Cracker)
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To: Prospero
Re #33, excellent analysis, I believe there is some small amount of misunderstanding here both on Putin's part and on readers part.

I find it positive that Putin references Rule of Law and Christian principles.

37 posted on 09/12/2013 8:08:44 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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"I find it positive that Putin references Rule of Law and Christian principles."

Don't be too impressed. Remember his squashing of russia's free press and that he has essentially established one man rule in russia.

Nor should you forget the various poisonings and nefarious disappearances of leading opponents.

He ain't somebody you want to play paddy-cakes with.

38 posted on 09/12/2013 8:23:08 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: Texas Eagle

The Soviet Union was Godless, but Russia is not. Russia is building churches while America is trying to tear them down.


39 posted on 09/12/2013 8:25:45 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: TheRhinelander

In a way he is correct. We have fags all in our faces and the military, queer marriage, exploding debt, gutting our defense, porous borders, heavy tax burdens, half our population on welfare, our achievements now are social media widgets as opposed to putting men on the moon, industry is shrinking... Compared to what we were in the 80’s or before we have lost a lot.

However, I will only say to him if we are so bad why does everyone want to come here? (Inside I know that most just want a free ride)


40 posted on 09/12/2013 8:37:13 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Pietro
Remember his squashing of Russia's free press and that he has essentially established one man rule in Russia.

My heart bleeds for the "free press" that was so aligned and in step with the ever so truthful and honest American MSM "free press" and did an equally bang up job.

It's sure a good thing we don't have one man rule here in America, and that we all have equal protection under the law.

Nor should you forget the various poisonings and nefarious disappearances of leading opponents.

Yeah, I can remember them so I can forget about the deaths and ruined lives of Americans whose only offense was to oppose the Socialist left in America.

41 posted on 09/12/2013 8:50:29 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Sacajaweau

I was thinking the same thing. I know boatloads of Russian Orthodox Christians.


42 posted on 09/12/2013 9:00:47 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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To: Texas Eagle; rightwingintelligentsia; Sacajaweau
Hey, Texas Eagle --- Russia seems to be quite the world Christian leader these days. Check out this recent article from Pravda's English-language online edition, especially the final 2 paragrahs, which will knock your ever-lovin' socks off:

http://english.pravda.ru/russia/politics/06-09-2013/125583-putin_obama-0/

It was posted to Free Republic. You can find it here to catch your fellow FReepers' comments on this wonderful but edgy new phenomenon: Christian Russia:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3063615/posts

43 posted on 09/12/2013 9:16:38 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Acquire a peaceful spirit, and thousands around you will be saved. " - St. Seraphim of Sarov)
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To: Sacajaweau

Russia is indeed a religious country and restored Orthodox churches are springing up like mushrooms after a spring rain.

Russia also has its own exceptionalism: Moscow was for centuries known as the “Third Rome” of Christianity.

There is a brand new Russian Orthodox church in my medium sized town in South Carolina. I am very glad for that given the mosque just down our street.


44 posted on 09/12/2013 10:15:39 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Navy Patriot
my oh my...bitter much?

Putin's an autocrat, and although obama would surley like to be one; still he ain't.

And just because the msm only peroiodically acts as a watchdog doesn't mean they are prevented from doing so.

In russia they are prevented from doing so.

Who's death came from opposing the left in this country, I must of missed it.

45 posted on 09/12/2013 1:24:03 PM PDT by Pietro
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To: Pietro
Who's death came from opposing the left in this country, I must of missed it.

Winston Blake

Peter Gent

Peter Hipsman

Perry Jones

Michael Schroeder

Jaydean Wendell

46 posted on 09/12/2013 2:29:57 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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