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Student exodus in Michigan school district where teachers defended child molester
Fox News ^ | September 12, 2013 | Perry Chiaramonte

Posted on 09/12/2013 5:52:25 PM PDT by jazusamo

Enrollment appears to be nosediving in a Michigan school district where several teachers publicly supported a former colleague who admitted having sex with a middle school student.

The student body count in the West Branch-Rose City district, in northeast Michigan is down unofficially some 87 students following a tumultuous summer in which angry parents blasted seven teachers for writing letters in support of former teacher Neal Erickson. The letters urged a judge to be lenient in sentencing Erickson, who admitted to sexual misconduct with an underage, male student from 2006 to 2009. When the school board declined to take action against the teachers, many parents vowed to pull their kids out of the public schools, which have a total enrollment of just over 2,000.

“I can’t speculate as to why the students have left, but there were certainly parents who vocalized that they were pulling their children out of school because of the teacher’s support,” West Branch-Rose City School Superintendent Daniel Cwayna told FoxNews.com. “We addressed the issue as best we could without infringing upon the teacher’s first amendment rights. There’s only so much we can do.”

Lower enrollment will cost the district under the state's funding formula. And it could get even worse, if other parents simply opt to keep their kids home on Sept. 25, when the official headcount is carried out. The school district stands to lose as much as $600,000 in state funding.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: arth; childmolester; education; michigan; nealerickson; rosecity; teacher; westbranch
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Fortunately there was a sane judge to counter the insane coworkers of this pedophile teacher.
1 posted on 09/12/2013 5:52:25 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

The really sad thing here is that none of the people defending the Pedophile will lose their jobs.


2 posted on 09/12/2013 5:55:55 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
Wow, the loss of 87 students will amount to a serious chunk of change.

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3 posted on 09/12/2013 5:55:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Fai Mao

Some of the enabling teachers could lose their jobs if enough parents can/will remove their kids from the school.


4 posted on 09/12/2013 6:00:41 PM PDT by opus86
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To: cripplecreek

It looks like the $600K figure includes the loss of those students whose parents choose to just keep them home on Sept 25, the day that determines federal funding for the school year.

It’s really, really important to schools to have their highest possible attendance that day. They might not care so much about other days.


5 posted on 09/12/2013 6:00:57 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: jazusamo

Superintendent is a moron. First amendment rights of teachers doesn’t mean they have a guaranteed job for life. Fire them and they can speak out all they want.


6 posted on 09/12/2013 6:01:23 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: jazusamo

I would definitely yank my kid out


7 posted on 09/12/2013 6:03:07 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Fai Mao

Agreed, any teacher supporting this should be gone for good and credential pulled.


8 posted on 09/12/2013 6:04:00 PM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: Kirkwood
Superintendent is a moron.

Absolutely, Daniel Cwayna should be looking for a new line of work also.

9 posted on 09/12/2013 6:06:53 PM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: jazusamo
“Neal made a mistake," schoolteacher Sally Campbell wrote in a letter to the judge. "He allowed a mutual friendship to develop into much more. He realized his mistake and ended it years before someone anonymously sent something to the authorities which began this legal process.”


Translation: "Hey, maybe he put his hand down his pants, maybe he didn't. Maybe there was penetration, maybe there wasn't. What difference at this point does it make?"
10 posted on 09/12/2013 6:09:36 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: jazusamo

If I had any kids, there is no way in heaven or hell that I would send them off to public schools.


11 posted on 09/12/2013 6:11:45 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Kirkwood

Isn’t it odd how school leadership and teachers decide who has freedom of speech and who doesn’t?


12 posted on 09/12/2013 6:12:50 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: jazusamo
I loved this letter:

Teacher Harriet Coe weighed in with her letter.

“Neal has plead (sic) guilty for his one criminal offense but he is not a predator (How does she know he isn't a predator? She didn't know he was doing it, or was she complicit in his crime?),” teacher Harriett Coe wrote. “This was an isolated incident (Once again, how does she know? She didn't know what was going on under her nose, how does she know what he was doing outside her view?). He understands the severity of his action and is sincere in his desire to make amends.”

13 posted on 09/12/2013 6:18:11 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (The IRS--a softer Gestapo)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

No doubt that she’s a flaming “feel good” leftist that thinks ‘Neal’ is a great guy and closes her eyes to the fact he’s a pervert.


14 posted on 09/12/2013 6:24:22 PM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: jazusamo
I was thinking of the more recent case where the girl committed suicide after being molested by a teacher. That teacher was sentenced to 31 days and received support from other teachers. There are some real scumbags teaching in our schools.
15 posted on 09/12/2013 6:29:20 PM PDT by peeps36 (I'm Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags f All Colors)
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To: peeps36

I saw an article recently that said something like 60% of Detroit teacher moonlight as prostitutes.

It was shocking


16 posted on 09/12/2013 6:31:27 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

People like that rarely get caught the first time they do this. Odds are very good this has happened before.

The behavior of these other teachers is sickening. No doubt these are the same “teachers” that won’t let a student use the word “God” or take a non-liberal point of view in the classroom. Gotta all be smug liberal bigots.


17 posted on 09/12/2013 6:35:47 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: jazusamo

Well,..Let My Students Go!

not exactly an exodus of Biblical Proportions.

there is NO DEFENSE for pedophilia, and anyone trying to defend a pedophile is as guilty as they are


18 posted on 09/12/2013 6:38:28 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team / al-Kilab Division)
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To: jazusamo
A male teacher convicted of having sex with an "underage male student" and 87 students' parents vote with their feet when seven teachers align themselves with this homosexual pervert and beg for liency for the pervert?

Then we are told the seven teachers are "exercising their First Amendment rights," so we all need to understand they are entitled to their opinions. I'm surprised that there are 87 students left in that school, let alone only 87 quit!

What's with parents today, teachers having homosexual sex with underage students, seven other teachers write letters to the judge begging for liency for the pervert and you want degenerates like these "teaching" your children?

19 posted on 09/12/2013 6:49:22 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: jazusamo

One criminal offense? He repeated that “one offense” from 2006-2009.


20 posted on 09/12/2013 6:58:19 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight (TEA baby! Let's roll!)
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To: jazusamo
At one time in our formerly great country, this was enough to fire a teacher.

Moral turpitude is a legal concept in the United States and some other countries that refers to "conduct that is considered contrary to community standards of justice, honesty or good morals. This term appears in U.S. immigration law beginning in the 19th century.

The concept of "moral turpitude" might escape precise definition, but it has been described as an "act of baseness, vileness, or depravity in the private and social duties which a man owes to his fellowmen, or to society in general, contrary to the accepted and customary rule of right and duty between man and man.

From Wikipedia

21 posted on 09/12/2013 6:58:51 PM PDT by A. Patriot ("I'm not a Republican, I'm a Conservative.")
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To: jazusamo


22 posted on 09/12/2013 6:59:39 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: zerosix

Yep, it’s hard to fathom that people accept this behavior. A century or probably less than a century ago a teacher caught performing these acts on a student may have well been hung from the highest tree and made an example of.


23 posted on 09/12/2013 7:09:22 PM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: jazusamo
Much, much less than a century ago, would anyone committing a crime like this, be locked up forever.

When I was in grade school (back in the dark ages), a teacher caught going into a bar, would lose their job, much less had sex with a student and the student of the same sex would have been unimaginable!

24 posted on 09/12/2013 7:18:37 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: jazusamo
A century or probably less than a century ago a teacher caught performing these acts on a student may have well been hung from the highest tree and made an example of.

Fifty-sixty years ago, they would've "disappeared"...into an unmarked grave in somebody's wheat field.

25 posted on 09/12/2013 7:34:08 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: jazusamo

It’s all due to the fact that teachers aren’t paid enough!

/sarc


26 posted on 09/12/2013 9:27:18 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: jazusamo
When the school board declined to take action against the teachers, many parents vowed to pull their kids out of the public schools, which have a total enrollment of just over 2,000

Those parents need to unelect that school board for one thing, then fire those teachers for another

27 posted on 09/12/2013 9:29:11 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: opus86

Get your kid out
Unelect the school board
The fire those teachers


28 posted on 09/12/2013 9:30:11 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: EDINVA

Let us declare Sept 25 a federal Republican Skip School Holiday then

haha


29 posted on 09/12/2013 9:31:14 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Mastador1

Firing them does not violate their freedom of speech, they can extoll the virtue of pedophilia all they want in the unemployment office.


30 posted on 09/12/2013 9:32:18 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: MeshugeMikey

BUMP

It should be considered a capitol crime


31 posted on 09/12/2013 9:33:04 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Fai Mao

“...none of the people defending the Pedophile will lose their jobs.”

If enough students depart, so will their jobs.

So many public employees seem to have forgotten THEY WORK FOR US.

They need some big reminders. I hope this is one of them.


32 posted on 09/12/2013 9:35:07 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: GeronL

I was commenting to the fact that students have been muzzled by schools and teachers while the teachers and administrators get to say whatever they want with no restrictions. I agree these people supporting this pedophile should be prohibited from ever working with children again.


33 posted on 09/12/2013 10:01:09 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Mastador1

bump


34 posted on 09/12/2013 10:01:34 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: jazusamo

Another Reason to Homeschool

arth


35 posted on 09/12/2013 10:08:42 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: jazusamo
This is a fascinating story. There are remarkable comments at linked sites from people who know Erickson and the teachers personally.

http://eagnews.org/community-turns-against-seven-teachers-and-a-board-member-who-showed-support-for-a-pedophile-teacher/

http://www.ogemawherald.com/stories/Erickson-sentenced-to-15-30-years-in-prison,97478

I have no idea how this will play out. Will enough parents keep their kids out of school to force the governor to intervene? Will parents be forced by the state to send their kids to be taught by the pedophile defenders? Will the teachers be fired, and sue the school district into bankruptcy?

36 posted on 09/12/2013 10:42:13 PM PDT by TChad
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To: TChad

They should have a recall election for that school board, the new board can fire the perv teachers


37 posted on 09/12/2013 10:43:07 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
They should have a recall election for that school board, the new board can fire the perv teachers

It sounds like the board needs financial cover for firing the teachers. I think the state governor should provide that financial cover.

38 posted on 09/12/2013 10:48:04 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Fai Mao

those so called teachers keep referring to this pedophile as having mad “a” mistake....like raping a kid over 3 yrs is “a” mistake....you know, like forgetting to put your turn signal on....


39 posted on 09/12/2013 11:08:43 PM PDT by cherry
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To: EDINVA
What you may find is that until Sept. 25 the district is gung-ho to enroll as many students as possible, but after that day they're not at all interested in receiving any more.

Gotta say it's encouraging that the parents are actually reacting. This needs to happen more.

40 posted on 09/13/2013 2:48:39 AM PDT by TheMole
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To: jazusamo

*LIKE*


41 posted on 09/13/2013 3:14:37 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

All of you embedded questions can probably be answered by determining if Harriet Coe is the local NEA representative.


42 posted on 09/13/2013 4:43:51 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I saw an article recently that said something like 60% of Detroit teacher moonlight as prostitutes.
It was shocking


that is shocking... only 60%?
43 posted on 09/13/2013 5:09:13 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: TChad

The parents who pulled their kids probably found some other way of educating them.


44 posted on 09/13/2013 5:49:25 AM PDT by goldi
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To: absolootezer0
that is shocking... only 60%?

No pictures, please of the other 40%.

45 posted on 09/13/2013 5:59:45 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: GeronL

Yes.

theres something VERY VERY wrong about a people who refuse to eliminate those who prey upon children in such a manner, thus the likelihood that most perps will be released at some point to violate yet MORE innocents.

the dead dont commit crimes!


46 posted on 09/13/2013 8:08:08 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team / al-Kilab Division)
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To: TChad

Thanks for the links.

It should be a slam dunk to recall that school board member. Hopefully the large number of parents that are outraged don’t give up on the teachers that not only supported this pervert but set a horrendously bad example for all the students in this district regarding the rule of law.

It blows my mind that they want leniency for this pedophile because “his” family is suffering. It would be nice to believe he’ll spend the full 30 years in prison but that probably won’t be the case.

If the Governor can legally get involved with this due to the loss of funding for this district he should do so, IMO. These teachers supporting this jerk should not be teaching anywhere.


47 posted on 09/13/2013 8:43:43 AM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: fabian
If I had any kids, there is no way in heaven or hell that I would send them off to public schools.

Yep. Sending children to public schools is prima facie child abuse.

48 posted on 09/13/2013 10:18:18 AM PDT by jammer
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To: MeshugeMikey

In Montana some guy got 30 days and another case elsewhere someone was released on probation or something.

This is getting bad.


49 posted on 09/13/2013 10:19:01 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: jammer

Yes..I barely survived it in so. Ca. after a couple of years of drug addiction all starting at Milliken jr. High in Sherman Oaks.


50 posted on 09/13/2013 10:51:33 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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