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California OKís driversí licenses for illegals
The Daily Caller ^ | 9/13/2013 | Katie McHugh

Posted on 09/13/2013 3:13:58 PM PDT by markomalley

The California State Assembly approved a last-minute bill allowing illegal immigrants to receive drivers’ licenses, a bill that Gov. Jerry Brown signaled he will sign into law, the Sacremento Bee reports.

“This bill will enable millions of people to get to work safely and legally,” Brown said. “Hopefully, it will send a message to Washington that immigration is long past due.”

“This is a moment, members, that years from now you’re going to look back on,” sponsor Democratic Assemblyman Luis Alejo said in his closing remarks.

Alejo hopes to prevent illegal immigrants from getting arrested and having their cars impounded when police pull them over and discover they are both unlicensed and undocumented.

2012 study conducted by the California Department of Motor Vehicles, however, found that unlicensed drivers are three times more likely to cause a fatal crash than licensed drivers, and that impounding vehicles is the most effective means of preventing future deaths and costly accidents. A similar AAA study conducted in 2011 found that unlicensed drivers were five times more likely to cause a fatal accident, and more likely to flee the scene of the crash.

The DMV study particularly found that the higher risks associated with unlicensed drivers had not been affected by a 1994 law prohibiting issuance of licenses to illegal immigrants — suggesting the risks are behavioral and would not be solved merely by licensing the unlicensed.

The DMV study noted that “unlicensed drivers who are ineligible to become licensed under this law are just as hazardous as drivers who are unlicensed for other reasons. If they were truly safer drivers, it would be expected that their increasing representation among unlicensed drivers after the law took effect would be associated with a concurrent reduction in the fatal crash overinvolvement rate for unlicensed drivers as an overall group, which isn’t supported by the study findings.”

California law does, in fact, stipulate that police impound cars of unlicensed drivers for 30 days if drivers could not produce a form of I.D., proof of insurance and vehicle registration. But because illegal immigrants were more likely to drive while unlicensed than U.S. citizens were, the Los Angeles Police Department decided to ignore the law in the spirit of fairness.

“It’s about fairness. It’s about equal application of the law,” LAPD police chief Charlie Beck told a Los Angeles TV station in May.

One resident of Los Angeles County, Don Rosenberg, balked at the LAPD’s decision. An unlicensed driver, who had been allowed to retrieve his car after being pulled over, killed Rosenberg’s son in a 2010 car wreck and tried to evade arrest.

“It’s more important that people who are in the country illegally get to drive than it is that people who are here get to live,” he told Fox News.

The licenses provided to illegal immigrants will feature distinguishing markings, which lawmakers say will at once prevent discrimination and satisfy unnamed federal requirements. California holds the largest population of illegal immigrants in the country and its budget deficit is a projected $16 billion.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens
Congratulations, California. Now your photo IDs will be totally useless for security purposes. Great job.
1 posted on 09/13/2013 3:13:58 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Now they can vote “legally.”


2 posted on 09/13/2013 3:16:19 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: markomalley
and the tests will prolly be in mexkin...
3 posted on 09/13/2013 3:18:55 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: markomalley

I smell a Referendum.


4 posted on 09/13/2013 3:20:01 PM PDT by Arthurio
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To: markomalley

So they will fail their drivers tests and still drive anyway.


5 posted on 09/13/2013 3:20:55 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: markomalley

3 Words:

Motor Voter Fraud.


6 posted on 09/13/2013 3:22:08 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: markomalley

How can I get one next time I’m in Kali ?? a spare license would be ideal... My name Juan Jiminez!


7 posted on 09/13/2013 3:22:22 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: Arthurio

No worries - Brown and his fellow leftwing extremists have the state judiciary watching their backs.


8 posted on 09/13/2013 3:22:30 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: markomalley

Cue “Lowrider” theme music...


9 posted on 09/13/2013 3:22:31 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: markomalley
“Hopefully, it will send a message to Washington that immigration is long past due.”

More senseless leftist gobble-de-gook from gobernador rayo de luna.

We have more than enough immigration, legal and illegal.

So why is immigration "long past due"?


10 posted on 09/13/2013 3:24:43 PM PDT by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don’t need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: Arthurio

And a followup declaration of “Unconstitutional” from the first judge that gets their hands on it.

It’s pointless to even try in California. Way too far gone.


11 posted on 09/13/2013 3:25:40 PM PDT by Jotmo (Whoever said, "The pen is mightier than the sword." has clearly never been stabbed to death.)
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To: headstamp 2

You are correcto. The people working at the California DMV offices are union thugs. The illegals will walk out of the DMV office as registered voters whether they know it or not. The voter registration forms in California have two address fields. One address field is for where you live. The other address field is where your ballot will be mailed. Jose and Maria will be told to sign here, here, here and here. The ballots will be mailed to an address controlled by the SEIU thugs who will cast the votes in every election.


12 posted on 09/13/2013 3:31:05 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: markomalley

When they are arrested the will be able to get Illegal lawyers.


13 posted on 09/13/2013 3:33:19 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (The Presidency is broken.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Kahliefornia LOONIES...ON SUCH A WINTER’S DAY.....


14 posted on 09/13/2013 3:39:04 PM PDT by jimsin
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To: markomalley

Will they have to pay for them, or will they be handed out free like the welfare and EBT?


15 posted on 09/13/2013 3:39:59 PM PDT by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: markomalley

I hate you california... I truly do.


16 posted on 09/13/2013 3:43:14 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: markomalley

“… sponsor Democratic Assemblyman Luis Alejo hopes to prevent illegal immigrants from getting arrested and having their cars impounded when police pull them over and discover they are both unlicensed and undocumented.”

BWAHAHAHAH!

He hopes to prevent having ILLEGAL aliens arrested and having their cars impounded???? And he calls them undocumented workers to boot!

What a fricking A-HOLE! Luis Alejo... his name and party says it all! Protect the brothers from arrest and deportation so he can use them for fraudulent voting in order to keep him elected and take their $$$. Alejo is buying alien (Hispanic) loyalty and votes.

That’s no different in reasoning then giving a thief keys to a house or combination to a bank safe and justifying it by saying.... “ giving thieves access to what they need will prevent them from getting arrested or having to take hostages or kill people if they get caught making it safer for the the rest of us”.

BWAHAHAHAH!

Luis Alejo and the rest of the dem clowns give a big “FU” to Kalifornia, the US immigration laws and those who work and play by the rules!

FU Alejo!


17 posted on 09/13/2013 3:47:50 PM PDT by Bellagio
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To: markomalley
At least they'll be better than this:


18 posted on 09/13/2013 3:48:14 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: markomalley
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19 posted on 09/13/2013 3:54:10 PM PDT by twistedwrench
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To: markomalley
"California law does, in fact, stipulate that police impound cars of unlicensed drivers for 30 days if drivers could not produce a form of I.D., proof of insurance and vehicle registration. But because illegal immigrants were more likely to drive while unlicensed than U.S. citizens were, the Los Angeles Police Department decided to ignore the law in the spirit of fairness. “It’s about fairness. It’s about equal application of the law,” LAPD police chief Charlie Beck told a Los Angeles TV station in May."

Not enforcing the law for illegal aliens (only) = equal application of the law? Calling George Orwell, wherever you are. Beck is an ape.
20 posted on 09/13/2013 4:16:51 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: markomalley
Well, as one who has spent time in countries south of the border, all I can say is that down there, if you have a horn, you can drive. And the lines on the road? They're just there to point you in the right direction.

I despise kalifornia. Everything about it. The body shops are going to love this one.

21 posted on 09/13/2013 4:43:30 PM PDT by LouAvul (In a state of disbelief as to how liberals destroyed America in a mere 40 years.)
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To: fwdude

This is partially about enabling Mexicans to vote in our elections. Notice that of the ‘restrictions’ stated on these DL’s, VOTING ISN’T ONE OF THEM. HOW EFFING CONVENIENT!


22 posted on 09/13/2013 4:58:19 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Mike Darancette
"When they are arrested they will be able to get Illegal lawyers AND ILLEGAL JURORS TO JUDGE THEM. California recently passed a law allowing illegal aliens to be JURORS, TOO.

You can't make this chit up.

23 posted on 09/13/2013 5:01:33 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: LibLieSlayer

me too but add the north east for me as well.


24 posted on 09/13/2013 5:12:08 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: LouAvul

I feel bad for those who are stull stuck there and want out.

The state is nothing but girlie men, all about me people and illegals or those who can’t speak English even if thye have lived here for 30 years.


25 posted on 09/13/2013 5:14:34 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Arthurio
I smell a Referendum.

This was what the last recall was over.

26 posted on 09/13/2013 6:17:31 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

If I was convicted with a jury that had illegal aliens I would appeal on the basis that this was not a jury of my peers and those jurors were criminals.


27 posted on 09/13/2013 6:17:57 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (The Presidency is broken.)
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To: Bellagio

They’ll still be uninsured. That’s also “illegal” in CA.


28 posted on 09/13/2013 6:19:08 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: SCalGal

insurance? we don’t need no stinkin insurance!


29 posted on 09/13/2013 6:26:53 PM PDT by xp38
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To: markomalley; Egon
How can this possibly work?

Up to now, one had to present an original of a birth certificate to obtain a CDL or a California picture ID.

If I own a car, I have to have proof of insurance in the car along with the registration. If one of these now-licensed illegal aliens is pulled over, or is involved in an accident, are they going to be penalized if they can't provide insurance information? I thought not.

Will Law Enforcement even be allowed to ask for ID?

It looks like there will be some Equal Protection defenses for legal drivers, if the illegals are handled differently

30 posted on 09/13/2013 9:21:56 PM PDT by RhoTheta ("We're from the Government, and we're here to help you ... NOT")
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To: markomalley
Hey CA, the Terrorists will invade and kill you first.
Talk about open invitations to terrorism. IDIOTS!

How does this help you CA? It does not~! And you suck for voting those people into office~!

31 posted on 09/13/2013 9:27:10 PM PDT by MaxMax (If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention)
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To: SCalGal

Where do I sign? One bill Gill finally got his way. Recall these bastards tomorrow, better yet, YESTERDAY. What a mockery of law abiding peoples. I hate liberals with all my heart.


32 posted on 09/13/2013 11:11:36 PM PDT by Squat (Deport the illegals now! Turn Home Depot's into the prisons to hold the illegals!.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

LAPD’s vehicle-impound rules violate state law, judge rules
August 12, 2013|By Joel Rubin and Kate Linthicum

The controversial rules that officers in the Los Angeles Police Department must follow when deciding whether to impound vehicles are illegal, a judge ruled Monday.

Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Terry Green, however, did not strike down the LAPD’s impound policy immediately. In coming weeks, the judge will decide whether he should put his own ruling aside until an appeals court hears the case. Until then, the LAPD’s policy will remain in effect, said Michael Kaufman, an attorney for the Southern California chapter of the American Civil Lberties Union, which was part of a coalition defending the impound rules.

“We are pleased with the ruling today,” said Tyler Izen, president of the Los Angeles Police Protective League.

Kaufman said the ACLU and other groups in the coalition would appeal Green’s decision. Attorneys for the city could not be reached immediately for comment on whether the city would join them.

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/aug/12/local/la-me-ln-lapd-impound-20130812


33 posted on 09/13/2013 11:26:33 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: manc

Me too!


34 posted on 09/14/2013 4:00:51 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: MaxMax

Islamicists have already been using Hispanics to get into the U.S. They are hooking up with Hispanics on both sides of the border and getting themselves and their children into the U.S., into the schools and community colleges so to seem to “fit in” to communities. Whoever pushed this bill in the California legislature must know this. The others who voted for this are useful idiots. All part of hope and change. Hope and change writ large.


35 posted on 09/15/2013 10:57:41 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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