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USDA Says Florida Food Pantry Must Remove Its Christian Symbols
The New American ^ | 9/13/2013 | Dave Bohon

Posted on 09/14/2013 4:49:46 AM PDT by IbJensen

A Florida Christian ministry that has been distributing food to the needy for the past 31 years said it will drop all connections with the federal USDA agriculture bureaucracy rather than bow to orders that it must remove Christian symbols from its facility.

Fox News reported that officials from the Christian Service Center of Lake City (CSC), Florida, were told by the state agriculture department that in order to continue to receive food from the USDA they would have to remove portraits of Christ and a 10 Commandments display from their facility and stop giving Bibles to those who came for food.

“They told us they could no longer allow us to have any religious information where the USDA food is going to be,” the group's executive director, Kay Daly, told Fox.

The USDA policy boils down to the “separation of church and state” that secular groups read into the First Amendment. A USDA spokesperson explained to Fox News that “under current law, organizations that receive USDA nutrition assistance can still engage in religious activities so long as the activity is not used to create a barrier to eligible individuals receiving food.” In the minds of USDA bureaucrats, a banner in the CSC that reads “Jesus Is Lord” and pictures representing Jesus equate into a barrier to those coming to the facility for help.

Instead of complying with the ruling, Daly said, the group has decided to simply drop the USDA's help and trust God for His provision. “If God can multiply fish and loaves for 10,000 people, he can certainly bring in food for our food pantry so we can continue to feed the hungry,” said Daly.

Daly told the Christian Post that when a counselor with CSC meets with a person in need, “We ask them if they know Jesus Christ and if we may share with them. If they decline, we don't. If they do want to, we share the gospel with them. Sometimes we lead them to the Lord and sometimes we don't.”

She said that while faith in Christ is not a litmus test for whom the group serves, they are nonetheless a Christian ministry with a mission of sharing the gospel. “Our purpose is to help people in need and to share the gospel of Jesus Christ,” she said. “We are going to pray with them. We are going to offer them a Bible. We are going to counsel them in Christian help. We are going to use our chapel.”

To eliminate the core of their beliefs, as the USDA appears to demand, would be an unacceptable compromise, Daly told the Christian Post. “We would deny what we stand for, which is Jesus Christ, which is why we are,” she said. “The USDA has drawn the line in the sand. If they are going to put stipulations on the use and distribution of the food, we make a choice and our choice is to stand with Christ.”

Daly said that area churches, local Christians, and others have already stepped up to fill the void left by the USDA. She said that above all else “I’m called to do what the Lord tells me to do. I’m not called to worry about it. I pray about it. The Lord answers our prayers and we move forward one day at a time, one person at a time.”

In 2012, an Indiana food pantry faced the loss of its USDA food privileges after its director refused to stop offering to have pantry volunteers pray for needy people coming to his facility for help. Ultimately government bureaucrats backed down from their threats when Paul Brock, founder of Community Provisions of Jackson County, Indiana, agreed to wait until individuals receive their food before volunteers ask them if they would like prayer. “I'm glad this is finally over,” Brock said in response to the end of the annoying federal roadblock that prevented him from helping people. “I need to get back to work.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: antichristiangovt; evilobamaregime; florida; govtabuse; tyranny; usda
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USDA bureaucracy. Another Godless, evil strand of the central socialist government that rules and ruins American lives and values.
1 posted on 09/14/2013 4:49:46 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

Time for AMERICANS to STAND THEIR GROUND against the agressive norms coming down the pike.


2 posted on 09/14/2013 4:53:02 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: IbJensen

Time for AMERICANS to STAND THEIR GROUND against the agressive norms coming down the pike.


3 posted on 09/14/2013 4:53:03 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: IbJensen

Of course the USDA knows that our early congress allotted monies to print and distribute thousands of bibles. Proof that the Constitution had no intention of killing religion.


4 posted on 09/14/2013 4:54:19 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: IbJensen

Elect a Muzzie POTUS, and just imagine what you’ll get.

Wait..........

You just have to look, imagine nothing.


5 posted on 09/14/2013 4:55:11 AM PDT by Flintlock ("The redcoats are coming" -- TO SEIZE OUR GUNS!!--Paul Revere)
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To: IbJensen

Put up the koran or liberation theology symbols and they’ll probably get double their food allotment. </sarcasm>


6 posted on 09/14/2013 4:55:15 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Looking for my generations Lexington and Concord.)
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To: IbJensen

Don’t do it, Florida. Praying for this ministry. Remember that Christians have been persecuted for all time, and for a reason. Be warriors for your faith, by standing firm for your principles and rights. There is a time for everything under the sun, even to be a warrior.

Remember Pslam 18:34

We are in a spiritual battle all of the time. DO it on your own, or close up.

Then, feed the hungry as you have a surplus. Go around this. Do not give in and forsake the Lord.

Pray for the persecuted and remember He who is IN me is greater than he who is in the world.


7 posted on 09/14/2013 4:55:54 AM PDT by Truth2012
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To: IbJensen

Sounds like the govt is practicing “freedom FROM religion” to me.


8 posted on 09/14/2013 4:58:00 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: IbJensen

What are they going to do when a lot of these religious organiztions stop helping the poor because of the bureaucratic BS they’re tring to foist on them? Oh that’s the angle...I get it…

0 has proven he’s no Christian. I’ve never ever seen the types of attacks against Christian organizations and Christianity by an adminstration that I have in te past 5 years. I guess 0 doesnt approve of feeding, clothing, and giving shelter to te less fortunate, disaster relief, or charity in the community, i.e. good deeds. The spirit of the AntiChrist is definitely in the man.


9 posted on 09/14/2013 4:58:38 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

AMen....he is NO CHRISTIAN!


10 posted on 09/14/2013 5:00:03 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: IbJensen

There can be only be one messiah.

Obamessiah. /s


11 posted on 09/14/2013 5:01:38 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: IbJensen

The government doesn’t mind people going hungry as long as they are Christians going hungry.

Feed the atheists. Starve the Christians.

When you start a Christian organization and accept money from the Government in any way you are under their control.

We are going to see a lot of Christian organizations shutting down.


12 posted on 09/14/2013 5:05:36 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: jsanders2001

And people continue to think that God will bless America? You can’t turn your back on God and expect Him to bless you. Our country is in the iron grip of the Evil One and harder times are coming.


13 posted on 09/14/2013 5:07:30 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: IbJensen

Liberals are evil thugs, but they are not entirely stupid. They know their beliefs cannot stand against God or against reason, which is why they are so adamantly in favor of censoring free speech and trampling religious freedom.


14 posted on 09/14/2013 5:09:16 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: IbJensen

It is not “separation of church and state”. It is a purge of Christianity.

Although we are the majority of the population, they wish to enforce by law “separation of church and culture.”


15 posted on 09/14/2013 5:13:15 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: IbJensen

The US Dept of Agriculture does not grow any food. It does not distribute food. It only consumes taxpayer dollars and then turns around and dictates to the people. Like every other government bureaucracy.


16 posted on 09/14/2013 5:14:25 AM PDT by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: IbJensen

Has nothing to do with our fearless leader hating Christianity. < / s>


17 posted on 09/14/2013 5:16:01 AM PDT by I want the USA back
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To: IbJensen

What the heck is this USDA business?

Another IRS investigation...


18 posted on 09/14/2013 5:22:07 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: IbJensen
Have Americans forgotten how to say, "Screw!"?

What's happened to us?

19 posted on 09/14/2013 5:25:08 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: lavaroise

The USDA is just another agency larded with bureaucrats who worship only at the altar of bloated, Godless central socialist governance.


20 posted on 09/14/2013 5:26:36 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

Sounds like a violation of the establishment clause, the government mandates that the Christian religion isn’t permitted in the public square.I wonder though if it were the Elijah Mohammad outreach ministry and they were distributing The Final Call “newspaper” with every meal if there would be any “concern” with improper religious messaging?


21 posted on 09/14/2013 5:29:36 AM PDT by bonehead4freedom
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To: Flick Lives

Hey, Flick!

Just watch what you say. Our manly president has stated on national tv that if Americans criticize their leaders and their government “there’s gonna be trouble.”


22 posted on 09/14/2013 5:30:28 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

The USDA policy boils down to the “separation of church and state” that secular groups read into the First Amendment.

Who gives a shot what the atheist read into anything?
Food is not the Government.
The USDA does not set social policy for the Government
In no manner does this pass the smell test.


23 posted on 09/14/2013 5:37:34 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: Flintlock
Elect a Muzzie POTUS, and just imagine what you’ll get.

I don't believe he is a muslim. I believe he is a rabid, foaming at the mouth, anti-christian atheist who only supports muslims because in his mind they are a persecuted (by white christians) minority who only lash out due to their justified anger at said persecution. He sees everything through the eyes of a 1st year sociology student where all badness in the world is born out of anger from some sort of White/Christian oppression. Thus, if you allow the persecuted groups (gays, muslims, blacks, women, mexicans, snail darters,...) to thrive, the anger will subside and the world will be at peace. Well, except for those White/Christians, who of course will need to be taught a lesson.

No, he is no Muslim, he is a dangerous spiteful atheist who is playing with fire way beyond his feeble mind's ability to control. If he even cares if it gets out of control. Which he very well may not. IMHO.

24 posted on 09/14/2013 5:43:36 AM PDT by TruthBeforeAll
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To: IbJensen

So Tom Vilsack, head of USDA, detests Christians, but throws a seder for his religion at the USDA and promises to do it every year. He’s just another hypocrite Christian hater. It’s not just the Muslims that loath Christians apparently.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/all-we-can-eat/post/tom-vilsack-throws-a-seder/2011/03/31/AFFeYH6E_blog.html


25 posted on 09/14/2013 5:46:49 AM PDT by EverOnward
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To: IbJensen

Next time there is a major disaster in a majority muslim, hindu or other third world country, let them deal with it. No US aid of any sort, period! The US shouldn’t be propping any religion, right?


26 posted on 09/14/2013 5:52:29 AM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: IbJensen

KEEP your Christian symbols.

REMOVE the food pantry.

Simple.


27 posted on 09/14/2013 5:57:19 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: IbJensen

Let’s face it, we have an anti-Christ government. Unless the hearts of Americans are changed radically by God’s power and love we are a doomed culture. I see no national repentance on the horizon. Christians in the Middle East and else where are giving their lives for the Lord so we can’t complain too much. But it’s not too big a stretch to say - it’s coming to a community near you - soon. We need to oppose our government in these areas but our real strength comes in doing what this food pantry is doing - sharing Christ with those in need and with our neighbors, friends, coworkers - and be willing to suffer for it or be ashamed of His name. We know which direction the world is headed in - we just don’t know the exact time. Israel is God’s time piece. Her enemies are in the process of surrounding her in an attempt to destroy her - just like the Bible said would happen near the end of time. It’s very sad to see our nation on the wrong side of this fight. We know who wins in the end, however. Pray for the heart’s of our countrymen that they may soften towards the Gospel and God’s offer of His Son.


28 posted on 09/14/2013 5:58:50 AM PDT by Lake Living
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To: IbJensen

Socialists/Totalitarians Say Florida Food Pantry Must Remove Its Christian Symbols.

Another uaccountable bureaucracy set up by socialists. Unaccountable bureaucrats are socialists. BIG GOVERNMENT IS CRONY SOCIALISM. “Socialism Is Legal Plunder” - Bastiat

http://www.usdebtclock.org

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

http://www.consumerfinance.gov/the-bureau/

http://www.usa.gov/directory/federal/

—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

FUUSDA
FUBO
FUCONgress
FUUSSC
FUFED
FUIRS
FUNSA

DEPOPULATE socialists/totalitarians from the body politic. DEFUND their collectives, foreign and domestic.

live - free - republic


29 posted on 09/14/2013 6:05:25 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: IbJensen

God bothers the crooks much indeed.


30 posted on 09/14/2013 6:08:35 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: TruthBeforeAll

Hitler mentioned he did not believe in God and hated all religions, but if there was a good religion, it was Islam according to him.


31 posted on 09/14/2013 6:14:48 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: I want the USA back

The three Cs that the Clown hates: Christianity, the Constitution, and capitalism.


32 posted on 09/14/2013 6:14:55 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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USDA Says Florida Food Pantry Must Remove Its Christian Symbols

Because everybody knows that religious symbols make food spoil and unsafe. /s

33 posted on 09/14/2013 6:16:59 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: I want the USA back

Government wants immunity. All who go in there expect to stay in there no matter. God removes that immunity from them through elections, term limits etc...


34 posted on 09/14/2013 6:19:33 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: IbJensen

We can’t have the one true God getting any credit for Christian charity, can we?


35 posted on 09/14/2013 6:27:31 AM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: IbJensen
Christian Service Center of Lake City (CSC), Florida

Donation coming as soon as I get some disposable income. Hopefully by the end of Sep.

Might make a day of it and drive there to donate.

5.56mm

36 posted on 09/14/2013 6:34:46 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: IbJensen

Since when does this agency determine anything like this????


37 posted on 09/14/2013 6:38:54 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

In this perfect fool’s paradise the central socialist government’s agencies can do anything they damn well please as long as it makes no sense.


38 posted on 09/14/2013 6:41:16 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

They shouldn’t quit dealing with the USDA automatically, for to do so in itself is a type of capitulation.

They should sue the USDA. It is already established law that a government agency cannot discriminate on the basis of religion. The ACLJ would be happy to take the case up. (Note for those who do not know, the ACLJ (American Center for Law and Justice) is not to be confused with the ACLU.)

It’s bad policy to back down from a bully, especially when you have a good case.


39 posted on 09/14/2013 6:41:25 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: IbJensen

Don’t drone me, bro!


40 posted on 09/14/2013 7:20:43 AM PDT by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: Venturer
The government doesn’t mind people going hungry as long as they are Christians going hungry.

Wanna bet the USDA moves the Christians' food down the street to the Mosque?

41 posted on 09/14/2013 7:25:24 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: IbJensen

Our American government has become a genuine evil.

Promotes faggotry, and drives out Christians.


42 posted on 09/14/2013 7:32:46 AM PDT by greene66
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To: Russ
Our country is in the iron grip of the Evil One and harder times are coming.

Of this, I have no doubt.

FMCDH(BITS)

43 posted on 09/14/2013 7:42:00 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: IbJensen

Why the HELL does the USDA involve itself with ANY RELIGIOUS ISSUE???!?


44 posted on 09/14/2013 7:46:50 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: IbJensen

So much for the separation of church and state. Our federal government is now using its powers to establish atheism in a North Florida food kitchen. And they actually have the audacity to do so under the guise of “separation of church and state”. There is no separation here. Instead of minding their own business and staying on their side of the wall, they have chosen instead to cross that barrier and enforce their religious mandates upon a faith-based group.


45 posted on 09/14/2013 7:48:43 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: IbJensen

Tell them to f##k off and die. Distribute it anyway. Challenge der Fuehrer’s brownshirts to shut you down or arrest you and make a huge deal about it. Make sure every recipient of their charity knows who is shutting them down and why.


46 posted on 09/14/2013 7:57:17 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: IbJensen

May the usda be damned to hell.


47 posted on 09/14/2013 7:58:37 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: bonehead4freedom
Sounds like a violation of the establishment clause, the government mandates that the Christian religion isn’t permitted in the public square.

That is not at all what the Amendment I says. First of all, the amendment is a restriction on Congress only. Secondly, not only does it prohibit Congress from making a law respecting an establishment of religion, it also prohibits them from making one which prohibits the free exercise of religion. Everyone wants to ignore that second part. In this case, it is clear that the USDA intends to prohibit the religious free exercise of this North Florida kitchen. And THAT is a violation of the Free Exercise clause.

'Separation of church and state' means the government must butt out and not get involved no matter what. Instead, we get a government that instills atheism in anything and everything it can get its hands on.

Since this is Florida, I believe we should look no further than the Florida State Constitution for proper legal guidance:

Preamble

We, the people of the State of Florida, being grateful to Almighty God for our constitutional liberty, in order to secure its benefits, perfect our government, insure domestic tranquility, maintain public order, and guarantee equal civil and political rights to all, do ordain and establish this constitution.

48 posted on 09/14/2013 8:02:00 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: RJS1950

They are just going to cut off the government cheese


49 posted on 09/14/2013 8:04:40 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Lazamataz

Because they are a bunch of lying liberal statists who really don’t believe in the separation of church and state. In fact, they don’t believe in the separation of anything and state.


50 posted on 09/14/2013 8:05:08 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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