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After coal, W.Va. push for natural gas trust fund
Associated Press ^ | Sep 14, 2013 10:21 AM EDT | Bruce Schreiner

Posted on 09/14/2013 8:17:32 AM PDT by Olog-hai

For decades, coal from West Virginia’s vast deposits was mined, loaded on rail cars and hauled off without leaving behind a lasting trust fund financed by the state’s best-known commodity. Big coal’s days are waning, but now a new bonanza in the natural gas fields has state leaders working to ensure history doesn’t repeat itself.

West Virginia’s Senate president, Jeff Kessler, is pushing to create an oil and natural gas trust fund to support core government functions decades from now. His goal: a cushion of funds long after the gas is depleted to buoy an Appalachian mountain state chronically vexed by poverty, high joblessness, and cycles of boom and bust. The Democratic Senate leader said the previous generation missed out on creating a permanent fund based on coal severance tax revenues. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: coal; coalplants; jeffkessler; naturalgas; necessarilyskyrocket; trustfund; welfarestate; westvirginia
Always welfare-dependency-minded, aren’t these Democratic politicians.
1 posted on 09/14/2013 8:17:32 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

A trust fund for the politicians to rob.

Sounds all too familiar.


2 posted on 09/14/2013 8:26:38 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Olog-hai

Exactly. Very poor idea which only benefits the people who control it and their buddies.


3 posted on 09/14/2013 8:34:23 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

Not to be contrary here, but, I’ve often wondered why a resouce rich state such as West Virginia also has such chronic poverty among big numbers of people there. I’m sure that the extractive industries are being taxed. Do they need to pay more to alleviate poverty or other problems there?


4 posted on 09/14/2013 8:43:57 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: headstamp 2

When the gas runs out, the trust fund will be empty. Long ago spent buying votes.


5 posted on 09/14/2013 8:53:00 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Commodity prices are volatile, which creates cycles of boom and bust.

If an economy is based principally on raw commodities and does not use prosperity to diversify itself, then it will be chronically weak.

6 posted on 09/14/2013 9:22:48 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: headstamp 2

Was that “slush fund” or “trust fund”?

Never mind - “six” vs “half a dozen”.


7 posted on 09/14/2013 9:39:15 AM PDT by Mack the knife
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To: Olog-hai

This is the first step. If you want to know where this will ultimately end up, it is called PEMEX.


8 posted on 09/14/2013 9:45:32 AM PDT by con-surf-ative
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Not to be contrary here, but, I’ve often wondered why a resouce rich state such as West Virginia also has such chronic poverty among big numbers of people there. I’m sure that the extractive industries are being taxed. Do they need to pay more to alleviate poverty or other problems there?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> West Virginia was basically raped by the coal industry since the 1800's. No royalties, etc. for all of the coal taken and shipped out of state. If West Virginia had gotten royalties for its coal as Alaska has had for its oil WV would be the richest state in the country.
9 posted on 09/14/2013 9:58:14 AM PDT by conservaterian (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party, but noooo, if we do that the libs will win !)
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To: conservaterian

Good info, thanks.

I’ve heard that Alaska residents get an annual payment of over $1,000 from their share of royalties on the oil. If politicians manage these royalties properly, then Alaska will have a permanent fund, not unlike college or charitable endowments.

The downsides of extractive industries are boom bust cycles, and also reaching a point at which the resources run out, or it becomes unprofitable to continue drilling/mining.


10 posted on 09/14/2013 10:12:03 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Olog-hai

Democrats don’t believe in human ingenuity. It’s all one pie that never grows or changes. Scarcity is status quo, but is cured by humans. Shortages are government created.


11 posted on 09/14/2013 7:03:05 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
but, I’ve often wondered why a resouce rich state such as West Virginia also has such chronic poverty among big numbers of people there

Especially after decades of Bob Byrd siphoning untold Federal dollars to that state.

12 posted on 09/14/2013 7:10:34 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: conservaterian; Dilbert San Diego
Conservaterian, you realize that there is a difference between private and public property, correct?

Coal companies pay royalties to leaseholders when they do not own the land they mine. They do not pay royalties to themselves when they mine the land they own.

In Alaska, two-thirds of the land is owned by the federal government. A quarter of the land is owned or controlled by the state government or municipal governments under state statutes. Most of the rest is owned by Native American tribes and administered by federally recognized tribal assemblies. Only a tiny fraction of the land is owned by private individuals.

For West Virginians to generally receive royalties, they would need to confiscate land from private owners and seize the income from the owners' pockets.

Typically, it is Communists, not conservatives, who use what is frankly stupid and childish rhetoric about "industry raping" communities.

13 posted on 09/14/2013 8:57:11 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Deals and stealing.


14 posted on 09/14/2013 10:40:31 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: wideawake

Wideawake - try reading a little bit of the history of WV coal mining and how the early coal companies took the private property mining rights from landowners, created “company towns”, etc. It was because of practices of these companies that unions were allowed to become so powerful in this country. We’re still paying for that today.


15 posted on 09/15/2013 4:34:45 AM PDT by conservaterian (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party, but noooo, if we do that the libs will win !)
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