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Report: Putin to travel to Iran for nuclear strategy talks
Daily Caller ^ | 11:32 AM 09/14/2013 | Reza Kahlili

Posted on 09/14/2013 8:56:05 AM PDT by Hoodat

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Russia wouldn't have dreamed of this five years ago. But with a complete lack of leadership from the US, all bets are now off.
1 posted on 09/14/2013 8:56:05 AM PDT by Hoodat
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To: Hoodat
Nature abhors a vacuum and lack of US leadership invites Putin to fill the void.
2 posted on 09/14/2013 9:00:57 AM PDT by JPG (Putin Does Obama.)
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To: Hoodat

Can you checkmate twice in the same game.

These guys are moving fast because they know our elections cause things to change quickly. With Syria and Iran off the table, I would hate to be sitting in Tel Aviv this morning.

Watch for them to get involved with Egypt next.


3 posted on 09/14/2013 9:02:35 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who will watch the watchers?)
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To: Hoodat

Putin played this mulatto fool for all it was worth.


4 posted on 09/14/2013 9:03:05 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Vermont Lt
Can you checkmate twice in the same game

Obama did just announced he's going to visit the Phillipenes and Indonesia (and others) in early October. New game, new checkmate.

5 posted on 09/14/2013 9:05:41 AM PDT by grania
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To: Hoodat

While our “president” cuddles up with Muslims...


6 posted on 09/14/2013 9:07:51 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Hoodat

Obama gave Putin a big wave, from which he can create a tsunami.


7 posted on 09/14/2013 9:09:27 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: JPG
We can start to reverse that trend in 2014 but every Conservatives needs to get involved and stop whining... not talking about you but reading FR these days... quitters are becoming more and more prevalent and some are enemy agents. Time to man-up and get ready to roll.
8 posted on 09/14/2013 9:10:12 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Hoodat

He’s making himself the most important leader in the world right now, and loving every minute of it.
Like I’ve said numerous times in the past....all the people who don’t want the U.S. to be the world’s police (and that includes Obama, cuz he said so himself the other day), there are other countries who are waiting to take over the position and Russia is one of them.

Since Obama is vacating the U.S.’s position, Putin is wasting no time stepping in.
That’s not a good thing for the rest of the free world.


9 posted on 09/14/2013 9:12:24 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Hoodat

In the irony of all ironies an ex KGB agent will likely win the next Nobel Peace prize. Funny, he will deserve it far more than the current pretender in the White House ever did.


10 posted on 09/14/2013 9:13:53 AM PDT by Jay Redhawk (Oh Crap!)
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To: JPG; LibLieSlayer

Waiting to hear from all the FReepers who’ve been saying that the U.S. shouldn’t be the world’s police anymore.....
maybe they don’t mind if Russia takes over that position.
I DO


11 posted on 09/14/2013 9:16:34 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1q4Eb34mwM


12 posted on 09/14/2013 9:18:42 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (The 0baMao Experiment: Abject Failure)
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To: ErnBatavia

Putin is sittin’ on top of the world for the moment. Let’s hope someone has the guts to knock him off


13 posted on 09/14/2013 9:23:41 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

This is what we call balance of power. What was done regarding Iran by US in the past few years? Nothing. Russians are no big fans of Iran but in this case they will have more control that will be beneficial to everyone. Sadly we in US have no real politicians and diplomats in power who can play on the world stage.


14 posted on 09/14/2013 9:26:56 AM PDT by QQQQ
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To: QQQQ

“Russians are no big fans of Iran but in this case they will have more control that will be beneficial to everyone.”

Russia having control anywhere is never beneficial to everyone....it benefits Russia


15 posted on 09/14/2013 9:29:30 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

FReepers don’t believe what obama does will ultimately be in US interest and like watching him flounder. Is this good for us? No. Condelezza Rice warned about this happening where some other countries would fill the vacuum if US influence was allowed to recede. I think it was going to happen anyway with obama in control.


16 posted on 09/14/2013 9:35:44 AM PDT by virgil
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To: Vermont Lt
” I would hate to be sitting in Tel Aviv this morning.”

Well frankly I don't feel so comfortable sitting in the United States these days, with the incompetent fool we have as our president, stumbling and bumbling away while our enemies unite against us.

17 posted on 09/14/2013 9:38:32 AM PDT by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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To: Hoodat
Russia wouldn't have dreamed of this five years ago. But with a complete lack of leadership from the US, all bets are now off.

We are being strategically encircled, both militarily and financially. The fall of Rome will look like a 1.0 quake compared to what the Marxists around the world have in mind for us. Obama, Jarrett, Axelrod and even Michelle are salivating over the prospect as they think that they will be the beneficiaries. They should remember what happened to Mussolini and his pals.

18 posted on 09/14/2013 9:39:09 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: nuconvert

We should police when it is in our vested national interest to do so. When we fight wars, we need to DECLARE war and fight like we did in WWII. Our police work in Afghanistan and Iraq were “targeted” and under ROE’s that created defeat. Nothing obama would do in syria would make any positive change for us or the world... the time for that action was when he was policing Libya... and that was right after he policed Egypt... how is all that working out for our republic?


19 posted on 09/14/2013 9:39:12 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: nuconvert

Isn’t the same can apply to US? Every country have their own interest but at the current moment Russians have more control of Iran then any other country. Political weakness of the US leadership created vacuum that was filled by Russia. Better them then chaos.


20 posted on 09/14/2013 9:40:17 AM PDT by QQQQ
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To: Don Corleone

At least Mussolini’s intent was to create a Greater Italy. Obama’s intent is to do the exact opposite with the US.


21 posted on 09/14/2013 9:45:05 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: QQQQ

“Isn’t the same can apply to US?”

No. And that’s what makes us different from other countries. Yes, we have our own interests, but in getting involved we genuinely want to help others. That’s why we are known world-over for our generosity and charity. Russia doesn’t give a cr&p about helping anyone else unless they’re getting a big payoff for themselves.


22 posted on 09/14/2013 9:47:35 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: LibLieSlayer

“When we fight wars, we need to DECLARE war and fight like we did in WWII.”

I agree.

The problems in Egypt & Syria go back to the beginnings of their protests. They started with students and people who wanted a more democratic government. Neither one started with MB or alqaeda types involved....those groups move in when there’s a vacuum or when they see that it’s opportunistic to do so because the West is standing by the sidelines not wanting to get involved.
The time to help in Syria was 2 yrs ago.


23 posted on 09/14/2013 9:54:26 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: virgil

“FReepers don’t believe what obama does will ultimately be in US interest and like watching him flounder”

Maybe some. But I’ve seen more who think that Bush shouldn’t have involved or that we can’t afford to get involved or are just isolationists.

We can’t afford not to get involved, because the cost to get back the position that we held in the world, is astronomical in $, time & lives.


24 posted on 09/14/2013 10:00:26 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

I agree with you about that. The mb killed sadat and zawahiri was involved in that. Mubarak put them underground and obama then encouraged them and backed them starting with his Cairo speech. Have a great weekend pal.


25 posted on 09/14/2013 10:02:39 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Hoodat

All made possible by Obama and his maggot democrats.


26 posted on 09/14/2013 10:17:10 AM PDT by Gator113 (The mighty Bear ate the cowardly rat. Obama must resign.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Hoodat.
27 posted on 09/14/2013 10:20:08 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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28 posted on 09/14/2013 10:22:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: nuconvert

“..but in getting involved we genuinely want to help others..”
Many times good intention cause more problems than help. Just look at Iraq, Libya ,Afghanistan. More people died there after so called help. Main problem is that American people have perception that everyone around the world have the same mentality. Good example is Saddam Hussein. He was a brutal dictator but had complete control. Look at Iraq now. Number of casualties after he was overthrown way above that was under his regime.


29 posted on 09/14/2013 10:34:56 AM PDT by QQQQ
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To: grania

Chinese businessmen run both countries. Almost all the wealthy are Chinese in both countries. Good luck with that pivot when your economy is in tatters Obama. It’s insane for the US to think they can run East Asia in this century.


30 posted on 09/14/2013 10:44:11 AM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: headstamp 2

I would like to see the back and forth winking going on between these two scammers. I wouldn’t trust anything coming out of this meeting as far as I could spit.


31 posted on 09/14/2013 11:02:03 AM PDT by spawn44 ( MOO)
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To: Hoodat

Rubbing it in the boy wonder’s face.


32 posted on 09/14/2013 11:14:09 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: QQQQ

In some cases, yes.
But that wasn’t the point.
The point was, we’re NOT like Russia.


33 posted on 09/14/2013 11:17:03 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Hoodat

There are so many arrogant condescending [they imagine themselves to be so-]”enlightened” [and allegedly-]”intellectuals” of the Obama Regime and his Palace Media ...

Who all criticized Sarah Palin as being the potential author of the very prospect in this story, that Obama, THEIR DEAR LEADER FOR WHOM THEY PAID (USING OUR MONEY) AND VOTED (USING DEAD PEOPLE AND ILLEGAL ALIENS), has brought down upon himself, his regime, and our country and people.


34 posted on 09/14/2013 11:27:56 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: bgill

Think Obama has lost the “Leader of the free world” title, Putin just walked up and ripped it off him.

Who is actually listening to Obama now....NOBODY.


35 posted on 09/14/2013 3:08:03 PM PDT by sunmars
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To: Hoodat

Actually, It could and most likely did happen-—repeatedly. Russia and Iran have been good buds at least since WW II. And we (US ) helped. During WWII we sent railroad experts to help improve Iran’s north/south rail road so that we could supply Stalin with aluminum and Studebaker trucks thru the back door. To this day that rail line is a major supply route for central Russia. As long as Iran has cash to buy Ivan’s stuff you can expect they will remain tight-—just no surprise here if you’ve been paying attention for the last half century.


36 posted on 09/14/2013 3:10:27 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Hoodat

Putin IS the BIG kid on the block now.


37 posted on 09/14/2013 3:34:23 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: rockinqsranch

When Obama said we need to press the ‘reset’ button, he wasn’t kidding.


38 posted on 09/14/2013 3:58:58 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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“Nature abhors a vacuum and lack of US leadership invites Putin to fill the void.”

BINGO!


39 posted on 09/14/2013 4:42:58 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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This is not going well and Obama is not the person who should be in charge. This is the edge of war.


40 posted on 09/14/2013 4:46:31 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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Obama-Putin deal didn’t stop at chemical Syria: US eases sanctions on nuclear Iran

http://www.debka.com/article/23269/Obama-Putin-deal-didn%E2%80%99t-stop-at-chemical-Syria-US-eases-sanctions-on-nuclear-Iran

Iran, and not just Russia and Syria, is taking advantage of President Barack Obama’s decision to refrain from military force against Syria to collect a shower of diplomatic and political dividends.

Our Iranian sources report that Tehran was in on all stages of the discreet Obama-Putin discussions on Syria: High-ranking Iranian officials were present in Damascus and Moscow throughout, and points of agreement were brought to Tehran for approval.


41 posted on 09/14/2013 5:26:18 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: virgil

Rescue Obummer and the Democrat Party to keep conservatives out of power. I don’t agree with that notion. Let the Lefists floounder to encourage Republicans to go to the polls next time. Never forget Hildabeast is worse than Bathouse Barry. Jeb Bush is nearly as bad as Hillary. I don’t want to see these goons maintain power.


42 posted on 09/14/2013 7:23:21 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: bmwcyle
This is the edge of war.

Exactly

43 posted on 09/14/2013 8:39:29 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Hoodat

One thing about Putin, I don’t know what it is gonna take for him to wake up and conceptually understand how dangerous of a threat an Iran with the same nuclear capabilities as his nation is. I can’t imagine someone with his war experience would be completely ignorant on this. Seems like self deception here.


44 posted on 09/14/2013 9:17:55 PM PDT by freedom462
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...”Russia wouldn’t have dreamed of this five years ago”...

Actually this is Putin’s second trip to Iran.... His first visit was in Oct. 2007 about 6 yrs. ago....that was the first official Visit for ANY Russian Leader to visit Tehran in modern history....basically ‘earmarking the Russian Iranian Alliance’.

Nobody could deal with Aben-didddy-shad, he was a commoner not a politician and could never dialog with most...so most didn’t..that included Putin who simply worked around him..and on occasion had his picture taken with him.

Meanwwhile... Putin’s worked at sharpening his image with International Leaders as well as with his own people, successfully so...... In the past few years more ‘International Conferences’ have been held ‘in Russia’ than any other nation. Putin’s now the Hostest with the Mostest... (Where once the US did this...no thanks to current Bimbo in Chief who’s been busy entertaining Hollywood instead).

Rohannie is an entirely different character...so Putin’s moving in ‘to secure this Alliance with Iran ‘openly’ now. . Washington thinks Rohannie’s a moderate but he definately is not. Rohannie will not speak what he’s thinking, he’ll say whatever the US wants to hear, like all the other Islamists working in the Whitehouse....(BTW...Irans Nuclear ambitions have already esculated under Rohannie.)

What we’re seeing, Imo, is the ‘strengthening’ of the Russian Iranian Alliance by this visit..and at a time when Putin is front and center on the world stage. Putin wants both Syria and Iran as his southern foothold....same as China does.

Continuing in the mix....The Arab leaders continue their religious war...which is between ‘Iran and Saudi’ and who’s going to win ‘Ownerhip over Islam’... who are pulling the strings throughout the Middle East. Russia and the US are the frontlines for each... and it is they who are doing all the negotiating now....even if the Us looks like blathering idiots.


45 posted on 09/15/2013 12:06:05 AM PDT by caww
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To: freedom462; MestaMachine

Putin doesn’t need to wake up..he knows exactly what he’s doing. Iran’s overall capability is fueled by Russia, Putins has them under his boot. He wouldn’t have threatened Saudi by saying he’d cut Iran loose on Saudi (if they stirred up the Chechians during the games) if he didn’t control them.

That’s another story..suffice it to say the first week of Aug. Saudi offered Putin billions to back off from Syria while Obama was pussy footing around. Putin refused for obvious reasons..so the Sauds threatened to sic the Chechians on the games. HE countered with unleashing Iran on them if they did that.

The US has zip zero understanding of the dynamics in the ME...and many have tried to tell them so...to no avail. So here we are...with no credibility in the ME at all...and certainly not with Putin.


46 posted on 09/15/2013 12:16:52 AM PDT by caww
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To: Hoodat; haffast; SkyPilot

All along the road to Ezekiel 38 ....


47 posted on 09/15/2013 12:19:44 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle
Exactly...though this is Putins second visit..his last just 6 yrs ago..... Still Putins got the stage and playing it for all it's worth. ...watch people think Putin's going to save the day with Iran, when in the reality we live Putin controls Iran and with “the plan” in mind I would suspect.......... Especially with the new discoveries of Oil and Gas in Israel...could well be “the hook”.

Putins’ a huge oil man....as you know how he made his big money....”Plundering Israel” would be ideal for him with his port in Syria..better said accessible to those Oil fields in the Mediterranean.

That's why he's willing to give up Syria's CW'S....Assad is not going to prevent Putins longer range agenda...small price to pay for what he stands to gain..or so he thinks in his mind. He was one very shrewd operator!

Was listening to some Jewish discussion about this today...very interesting as they are Christian. They clearly see what's happening here...and Bi-Bi isn't closed eyed either.

48 posted on 09/15/2013 12:38:11 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Its a sorry day when the world no longer respects or for that matter fears the strength of the US President, you did’nt have this crap when Bush and Cheney were in charge. Every President has mi-steps but these 2 Obama and Biden are clueless.

They messed around, Bush was not afraid to get nasty and rip into them. Now we have no credibility, the Office of POTUS is sullied and spineless with this moron. Hell we all said it in 2008 it is dangerous putting a community organizer with little to no experience into this job but I think we need more checks and balances on the Presidency to prevent this crap from ever happening again. As it is, This President has become unaccountable for anything and we somehow need to stop that. Maybe if we had a bit more like the UK do with Prime Ministers questions where the PM must face congress once a week to answer for the Govt’s actions.


49 posted on 09/15/2013 12:48:02 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: sunmars

We as Americans just have such difficulty accepting that we ‘have to’ become weaker so ultimately God can wipe these beasts out....then every knee will bow.

They didn’t like Bush any better than they do Obama....but they did respect him and knew he’d carry through with his threats.

Obama walked into the big leaguers ‘field’ (uninvited and with no experience)..took a bat and struck out over and over...threw it down and ‘walked off the field’... and left Kerry as the waterboy for the players.


50 posted on 09/15/2013 1:02:27 AM PDT by caww
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