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Tea party friction: Sen. Rand Paul lashes Ted Cruz approach to Russia and China
DallasNews.com ^ | 3:48 pm on September 10, 2013 | Todd J. Gillman

Posted on 09/14/2013 10:00:42 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

Edited on 09/14/2013 11:12:44 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON ó It was bound to happen eventually. Two tea party allies angling for president canít agree on everything, and Tuesday, a gaping foreign policy schism came into focus as Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul went out of his way to critique Sen. Ted Cruzís approach to Syria.


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To: SoConPubbie

Nothing to see here. They are not going to agree on everything. However, I am closer to Cruz than I am to Paul. I am not too happy to seen Paul play footsie with the Rino leaders under the table.


41 posted on 09/14/2013 12:14:12 PM PDT by Moorings ("Tax and Spend Liberal" is not just a Republican campaign slogan anymore.)
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To: Moorings

“too happy to seen Paul” = “too happy to see Paul”


42 posted on 09/14/2013 12:16:53 PM PDT by Moorings ("Tax and Spend Liberal" is not just a Republican campaign slogan anymore.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion; grania
They already voted. Paul and Cruz voted in the exact same way but SoConPubbie likes to pretend that didn’t happen.

And you, right on cue, just as in our previous conversations, duck the Rand Paul Amnesty Issue, Obfuscate it, or down-right lie about.
43 posted on 09/14/2013 12:28:53 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Yep, which disproves the media's notion that we're all marching in lock step to the beat of one ideal.

Obama's second term proved that.

44 posted on 09/14/2013 12:49:11 PM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: JMS

I think that they are both staking out political territory. They do differ on many points, but I would vote for a Cruz/Rand or Rand/Cruz ticket against any Democrat.


45 posted on 09/14/2013 12:50:34 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SoConPubbie; BarnacleCenturion; grania
Rand Paul certainly brings out the haters doesn't he?

The deport them all people would be wise to realize (like it or not) the USA is not going to forcibly remove 25 to 30 million illegals. That is just not going to happen. I don't like sad fact either, but being a realist I have to accept that mass deportation is off the table. Paul knows this and Cruz knows it too. So what now? Protect the border, protect the vote and no new pathway to citizenship which is exactly what Paul was proposing.

I think it is the Jeb Bush faction of the GOP that is trying to tare down a good man. Or maybe Rummy is running again. I would think FR would be behind Paul simply because he is a big pain in McCain's butt being a wacko bird and all.

46 posted on 09/14/2013 12:51:13 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: trebb

I don’t know.

Obama’s second term seems every bit as likely, due to two things:

First off, he’s the only African-American president. Likely to remain the only one, from what he’s show so-far.

And second, to tell the truth we ran candidates both races, who were remarkably like Obama.

Who in the world would vote against Obama, for Romney? Or vote against Obama, for McCain?

We need to stop imitating Democrat candidates, and stop nominating “me too” candidates.

No more McCain and no more Romney.

For that matter, no more GOP but that is just me.

IN 2016 we need a real, solid conservative. Or two.

(Palin, Cruz are just two possibilities)

For American jobs, and for America.

Now.


47 posted on 09/14/2013 12:58:58 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: SunkenCiv

That’s the money paragraph. I doubt there would be much disagreement between Cruz and Paul on this common sense tactical approach...


48 posted on 09/14/2013 12:59:29 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

We don’t like the UN, but I think you underestimate the need of dictatorships to save face. Paul’s point, if I follow him, is that America is exceptional and we need to act like it. Obama’s not doing that.


49 posted on 09/14/2013 1:24:32 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SoConPubbie; Gaffer; jpsb; BarnacleCenturion; SunkenCiv
From the horse's mouth - Rand Paul on Immigration (official senate web page)

I do not support amnesty, I support legal immigration and recognize that the country has been enriched by those who seek the freedom to make a life for themselves. However, millions of illegal immigrants are crossing our border without our knowledge and causing a clear threat to our national security. I want to work in the Senate to secure our border immediately. In addition, I support the creation of a border fence and increased border patrol capabilities.

Immigrants should meet the current requirements, which should be enforced and updated. I realize that subsidizing something creates more of it, and do not think the taxpayer should be forced to pay for welfare, medical care and other expenses for illegal immigrants. Once the subsidies for illegal immigration are removed, the problem will likely become far less common.

I support local solutions to illegal immigration as protected by the 10th amendment. I support making English the official language of all documents and contracts.

Millions crossing our border without our knowledge constitutes a clear threat to our nation's security. Instead of closing military bases at home and renting space in Europe, I am open to the construction of bases to protect our border.

What a weak border security, amnesty wimp.

Must I use the /sarc tag?

50 posted on 09/14/2013 1:46:46 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: jpsb; Kennard

These are two of the most important posts I have read in a long time. Everything else is secondary.........including Cruz/Paul amnesty positions.


51 posted on 09/14/2013 2:05:45 PM PDT by w4women ("I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism" - Reagan)
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To: uncommonsense

Thanks ...you beat me to posting that. Geez what is with these weakling-brains supposedly on our side helping the Dems tear down the very people we need elected.

Rand and Cruz, go you guys... you two are the only hope we got in DC.


52 posted on 09/14/2013 4:14:31 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Let’s start that conversation by acknowledging we aren’t going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.


You think that has the remotest chance of ever happening? Let reality sink in huh?


53 posted on 09/14/2013 4:19:19 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: jpsb

The deport them all people would be wise to realize (like it or not) the USA is not going to forcibly remove 25 to 30 million illegals. That is just not going to happen. I don’t like sad fact either, but being a realist I have to accept that mass deportation is off the table. Paul knows this and Cruz knows it too. So what now? Protect the border, protect the vote and no new pathway to citizenship which is exactly what Paul was proposing.


I keep seeing that you make sense here among the herd of feeble minded, thank you.


54 posted on 09/14/2013 4:23:33 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: jpsb

The deport them all people would be wise to realize (like it or not) the USA is not going to forcibly remove 25 to 30 million illegals. That is just not going to happen. I don’t like sad fact either, but being a realist I have to accept that mass deportation is off the table. Paul knows this and Cruz knows it too. So what now? Protect the border, protect the vote and no new pathway to citizenship which is exactly what Paul was proposing.


I keep seeing that you make sense here among the herd of feeble minded, thank you.


55 posted on 09/14/2013 4:23:33 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: free_life

thank you (twice) :)


56 posted on 09/14/2013 4:30:23 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: cripplecreek

Yeah, and our side buys it hook, line, and stinker. That is why we always lose! LOL


57 posted on 09/14/2013 4:36:08 PM PDT by dforest (UT)
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To: cripplecreek

Who do you think he was talking about? Someone else who holds the exact same position as Cruz?


58 posted on 09/14/2013 8:00:27 PM PDT by frickin_frackin
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To: SoConPubbie
Paul makes me nervous. If he were the nominee, I feel we would be having to do weekly facepalms with his ping-pong comments. Like with immigration, which he seems to switch on monthly.
Cruz just seems more mature and seasoned, despite his shorter stay on the nat'l stage.
59 posted on 09/14/2013 8:11:01 PM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: SoConPubbie

Rand Paul supports Neo-Soviet Russia and Red China and Ted Cruz supports the USA.


60 posted on 09/14/2013 8:15:57 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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