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ARE YOU SYRIA-OUS? IS THE USA ON THE WRONG SIDE?
Original Content | September 14, 2013 | by Laz A. Mataz

Posted on 09/14/2013 11:10:21 AM PDT by Lazamataz

The entire narrative of the Obama administration is that President Bashar al-Assad, or at least his minions, used a nerve gas (Sarin) on the opposing rebel forces, and that this warranted a strike on Syria to disuade them or others from using weapons of mass destruction. Let us look at this claim, in light of the evidence of the last few weeks:

  1. Russia publicly contradicted Washington's premise that Assad had released chemical weapons in Ghouta, but offered approve a strike on Syria -- its longest and most solid ally in the region -- if concrete evidence, gathered by the United States, could be shown to them. No attempts have been made by the US to convince the Russians that we are telling the truth, and in fact, we were forced to admit that our evidence was not comprehensive and definitive.

    Evidence that the rebels launched the attack, presumably to draw the might of the United States into their conflict, has mounted up.

  2. At the website maintained by Walid Shoebat, a former Islamic activist with the Muslim Brotherhood, there are several videos in which Syrian rebels are shown to be handling what is likely to be chemical weapons. The items handled are clearly not standard explosive ordnance. Another video shows a Syrian rebel attack, in which one of the radio broadcasts of the attacker actually admits that the next round of artillery will be Sarin nerve gas.

  3. Dale Gavlak and Yahya Ababneh, both veteran reporters of the Middle East and its politics, uncovered many Syrians who indicate that the Sarin was supplied by Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, and delivered to the rebels. Quoting from the article: "My son came to me two weeks ago asking what I thought the weapons were that he had been asked to carry," said Abu Abdel-Moneim, the father of a rebel fighting to unseat Assad, who lives in Ghouta. Abdel-Moneim said his son and 12 other rebels were killed inside of a tunnel used to store weapons provided by a Saudi militant, known as Abu Ayesha, who was leading a fighting battalion. The father described the weapons as having a "tube-like structure" while others were like a "huge gas bottle."

  4. Pierre Piccinin, a stalwart supporter of the Free Syrian Army (one of the rebel factions), was one of three hostages released from capitivity after being held by rebels, and had this to say: "It wasn't the government of Bashar al-Assad that used sarin gas or any other gas in Ghouta....It pains me to say it because I've been a fierce supporter of the Free Syrian Army in its rightful fight for democracy since 2012....". Another hostage, Domenico Quirico, said he listened to a Skype conversation between three rebels, one of which who identified himself as a Free Syrian Army general. All three hostages state that insurgents had used gas in Ghouta with the purpose of triggering US involvement.

  5. Lest we believe that this was not a willful series of lies on the part of the Obama administration, none other that Alan Grayson, a far-left Democrat congressman from Florida, says the Obama administration has manipulated intelligence to push its case for U.S. intervention in Syria. Grayson cites information that he cannot reveal, due to secrecy and security laws, but states: "the claim has been made that that information was completely mischaracterized." He further goes on to assert that the intelligence has been 'manipulated'.

The reality is that our government, in the form of the Obama administration, has apparently lied to the American people and to the world. We, as a country, are taking the wrong side. We have all heard it said by patriots before, "My country, right or wrong." I cannot subscribe to that principle. America was once a country that often had the moral high ground, but now, we do not. If our country is wrong and is operating from a platform of purposeful lies, we should and will say so, stridently and often.

It appears that Obama has backed down quite a lot from the saber-rattling of the last few weeks, and this is a positive development. His administration has signaled that Obama will be shifting from the Syrian crisis to domestic issues. While I applaud the shift away from the confrontation with Russia -- especially based on the evidence detailed above that we would be operating from a lie -- it does seem odd that an administration so suddenly strident about the international lawlessness of using chemical weapons would just as suddenly drop the issue. It is as if this really wasn't about chemical weapons at all. One must wonder what the true motivation was -- and that will be fodder for another editorial.

It is imperative that America act from a position of moral strength, as we have so many times in our history. We cannot and shall not allow this administration to plunge us into what could easily become a global thermonuclear war, for the pathetic and prevaricating reasons we have presented.


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I spent the time collating and collecting various things I've read over the last few weeks, and gathered them all here, to present my case.

As a point of interest, Russia appears to have been cajoled and threatened by at one point, by Saudi Arabia, to facilitate their cooperation in the overthrow of Assad:

The [Russian and Saudi] talks divulged in leaked documents were allegedly about an oil deal that would stabilize Russia's markets, if Saudi Arabia curtailed the amount of oil it put on the global market. In exchange for their global price fixing -- the Telegraph's Ambrose Evans-Pritchard writes that Russia "relies on an oil price near $100 to fund the budget" --- Russia would back off its support for Assad. But there was a threat allegedly hidden in there right along with the fruit. From The Telegraph: [Soudi intel chief] Prince Bandar [bin Sultan] pledged to safeguard Russia’s naval base in Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia’s Winter Olympics in Sochi if there is no accord. "I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us," he allegedly said.

1 posted on 09/14/2013 11:10:21 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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I've spent a good deal of time time collating and collecting various things I've read over the last few weeks, and gathered them all here, to present my case,...and to make it easier for all of you to find, as reference material. Please check all the links, especially Shoebat's videos....

2 posted on 09/14/2013 11:13:14 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz
Here's the real deal.

Every minute any American is talking about, thinking about, what have you about Syria, we are feeding into the deflection about what is going on here at home.

70% of the US citizenry could give a flying monkey's scat about Syria.

Yet is continues to be shoved down our throats like castor oil.

Why ? Why, Why, and more Why ?

Wake up America ! The government proctologist has BOTH hands on your shoulders.

3 posted on 09/14/2013 11:16:51 AM PDT by onona (The Earth is the insane asylum for the universe)
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To: Lazamataz

Well done!

I’ll pass on the Shoebat though.


4 posted on 09/14/2013 11:17:41 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: onona
I disagree with some of what you write. Seventy-percent of the populace could care less about Syria, when it is quite clear we were about to engage in a direct shooting-war with Russia over it? Don't forget, Russia is the only nation on Earth that could utterly destroy us... albiet at the cost of their own nation.

While I agree that Syria is a distraction, it also points out -- very clearly, as I hope to have demonstrated -- that this Administration is more than willing to use outright lies to advance its agenda. That is useful information to put in the minds of Low Information Voters, so that they are more likely to join us in resisting the domestic agenda Obama is pushing.

5 posted on 09/14/2013 11:20:54 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: humblegunner

I agree with your distaste for Shoebat, but he does have actual videos. Occasionally, even the distasteful will possess something of value.


6 posted on 09/14/2013 11:22:07 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz
This image is intended as a thumbnail for Facebook postings, and is of rebels allegedly firing chemical weapons.


7 posted on 09/14/2013 11:24:16 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz
Dear Fellow Undocumented Journalist

Huzzah

we cant control what the zombies do but WE can take meaningful action!

Thank you




8 posted on 09/14/2013 11:25:50 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: Lazamataz
Laz, one of the things that puzzles me is the run up in oil prices with no apparent threat to supply.

There is more of the polar bear killer pumped into the system in what is a down market with no effect on price other than rumor and innuendo.

9 posted on 09/14/2013 11:26:25 AM PDT by Little Bill (A)
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To: Little Bill

That’s actually typical for oil prices. Anytime there’s a threat to supply, the price jumps.


10 posted on 09/14/2013 11:30:16 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Undocumented Journalist. Heh. I like it. :)


11 posted on 09/14/2013 11:30:40 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: onona
Wake up America ! The government proctologist has BOTH hands on your shoulders.

Wait a second, if the proctologists hands are on my shoulders, whats that poking me in the ...???

OH NO!!!

12 posted on 09/14/2013 11:31:09 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Lazamataz

There is no “right side” in Syria. America should sit this one out.


13 posted on 09/14/2013 11:32:50 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Lazamataz
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14 posted on 09/14/2013 11:33:53 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: BenLurkin

the right side....... is the SIDE -..Lines....


15 posted on 09/14/2013 11:35:00 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: BenLurkin
Well, yes. There is no right side. But of the two wrong sides, we have chosen the wrongingfullist.

That's an actual word, by the way. I just made it up.

16 posted on 09/14/2013 11:36:06 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

If you write any quality editorials, make sure to post them to Freeper Editorial. It’s a section dedicated to helping us be viewed as a source of journalism and editorializing.


17 posted on 09/14/2013 11:37:27 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz
The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us," he allegedly said.

And that is where Tamerlan Anzorovich Tsarnaev, "the Boston Bomber", trained with these people. Did you ever wonder why the FBI did not pick him up or watch him closer?

18 posted on 09/14/2013 11:38:41 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Lazamataz
Thank You

Perhaps the editorial Cartoon Route would be the best avenue for my skill set!

Thanks Again.





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19 posted on 09/14/2013 11:40:01 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: Lazamataz

Tempted to just say “Yes, we are on the wrong side”, but I’m afraid this is one of those wars (like Iraq vs Iran in the 80’s) where its too bad both sides can’t lose.

The lesser evil, IMHO, is Assad.


20 posted on 09/14/2013 11:42:14 AM PDT by Vesparado (The American people know what they want and they deserve to get it good and hard --- HL Mencken)
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To: Lazamataz
May I join your Official Lazamataz Sometimes-Funny, Sometimes-Disturbing Ping List?


21 posted on 09/14/2013 11:42:50 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Don’t take my word for it, these are my opinions...Do your own Homework)
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To: Lazamataz

The attack took place in rebel-held territory. It would not have been necessary for the rebels to either launch, nor fire “weaponized” gas into that site. Simple pressure bottles would suffice, along with a disperser. Just round up a few hundred prospective “martyrs”, and open the valves. That’s a lot lower technological barrier than developing weaponized gas, and the means to deliver it to unwilling recipients.


22 posted on 09/14/2013 11:46:30 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

The same thing happened in Bosnia and Kosovo - the Muslims staged massacres in order to have the US act as their air force and our stupid politicians are doing a Charlie Brown missing the ball over and over.


23 posted on 09/14/2013 11:52:48 AM PDT by JMS
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To: Lazamataz

Ain’t no threat to supply, if so from who?


24 posted on 09/14/2013 12:01:52 PM PDT by Little Bill (A)
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To: Lazamataz
We seem to be little more than a vassal of the house of saud.

Just another nation to launder their AL CIA DUH funds through to keep their hands clean.

25 posted on 09/14/2013 12:03:24 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: Lazamataz

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/09/m-dangerous_times_putin_the_peacemaker_vs_obama_the_warmonger.html

... President Obama has now sabotaged four decades of stability in the Middle East. First he pulled down the biggest pillar of peace,the Mubarak regime in Egypt;then he bombed Libya into the Dark Ages;and now he has paraded “My Army” and “My Navy” against the Assad regime in Syria,which is just as evil as the rebels.

... In the strangest twist of history,it is Obama the radical leftist who is now acting as the destabilizing warmonger in the Middle East,while Vladimir Putin may be emerging as a stabilizing peacemaker.

Nobody can figure out whether Obama is the most hapless bumbler in history,or whether there is some sinister purpose behind it all.

It could be both.

... Meanwhile,Egypt’s new military ruler,General Al Sisi,is reaching out to Putin to help stabilize his position against the Muslim Brotherhood,the war fanatics whom Obama has been aiding.


26 posted on 09/14/2013 12:04:47 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: darkwing104
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27 posted on 09/14/2013 12:05:58 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Little Bill

War in the region would be a supply destabilizer, especially in Syria, who is a transport hub.


28 posted on 09/14/2013 12:07:53 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz
Thank you much


29 posted on 09/14/2013 12:09:48 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Don’t take my word for it, these are my opinions...Do your own Homework)
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To: Lazamataz

In Syria I think both sides are wrong. We should let them fight it out and then decide what to do with the side that wins.


30 posted on 09/14/2013 12:15:16 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Lazamataz

Laz you know what this means....Israel is alone my friend in a very bad neighborhood.


31 posted on 09/14/2013 12:18:13 PM PDT by Dog (Founding member of the Osama Bin Laden was alive the whole time club..)
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To: Lazamataz

Minor hub at best, effecting Egypt and Turkey mainly. From what I can see the fight is about pipe line routes and who controls them, the Russians or the Saudis.


32 posted on 09/14/2013 12:18:17 PM PDT by Little Bill (A)
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To: BenLurkin

“There is no ‘right side’ in Syria.”

Double dittos for that observation. When all sides (there are clearly more than two) seem to be united in only one thing (the obliteration of Israel), and they are engaged in any other activity that distracts from that objective, then the US should be doing NOTHING to try to encourage the peace. Make sure the refugees trying to escape the war zone have some temporary respite, but make double sure that a ‘fifth column’ is not being put in place in a new location from among those swarming out as expatriates.

If nothing else, the West (and particularly the United States) should avoid any appearance of mounting a new Crusade.

The Fertile Crescent may be a prime piece of real estate, but most of its current inhabitants are anything but reasonable and credible people, engaged only in the advancement of mankind. Their idea of civilization has been on hold since the 7th Century. Only because of the near simultaneous collapse of the Roman Empire (to the west) and the Persian Empire (to the east), was the Islamic jihad able to expand into a relative vacuum.


33 posted on 09/14/2013 12:22:39 PM PDT by alloysteel (Those who deny natural climate change are forever doomed to stupidity. AGW is a LIE.)
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To: Lazamataz

The photo looks more like a propane delivery to an upper floor of the building via a Rube Goldberg trebuchet. Fitting, for that part of the world.

Sorry.


34 posted on 09/14/2013 12:25:52 PM PDT by chulaivn66 (Semper Fidelis)
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To: onona

....”Every minute any American is talking about, thinking about, what have you about Syria, we are feeding into the deflection about what is going on here at home”....

That was the intended purpose....and while the world watched all leaders from China to our own representatives manuvered and do so now along the stage of thier purposes and agendas....it’s always like that when the US steps into the fray of any war.....Obama likes doing this as we saw in other ME states...he’s being manipulated by Saudi and the Globalists who are on the same page.


35 posted on 09/14/2013 12:26:44 PM PDT by caww
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To: Lazamataz

"It is as if this really wasn't
about chemical weapons at all."

Painfully obvious to me and you.
36 posted on 09/14/2013 12:27:35 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Lazamataz
"My country, right or wrong." I cannot subscribe to that principle.

Hey Laz,

I find it useful to differentiate between "my country" and the government.

I am a citizen of the USA and believe in our constitution and the founding principles.

Those things are "right."

This administration (and most in recent history) are often wrong.

That perspective redefines the "sides."

37 posted on 09/14/2013 12:29:44 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it)
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To: Lazamataz

Excellent and well thought out post Mr. Laz. I have but one small disagreement — anytime the evil creature Obama spends away from domestic issues gives us a small bit of hope that the country might survive his extraordinary assault on our freedoms. Besides, I enjoy watching Putin kick his scrawny ass around. Please sign me up for your list.


38 posted on 09/14/2013 12:29:44 PM PDT by Ceausescu (Thank you. I'll be here all week. Try the virgins, they're to die for.)
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To: Lazamataz
Dale Gavlak and Yahya Ababneh, both veteran reporters of the Middle East and its politics, uncovered many Syrians who indicate that the Sarin was supplied by Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, and delivered to the rebels.

Nice job Laz... IMHO The House of Saud wants us to take out Iran for them too - they're willing to 'pay'... just NOT with the blood of their own people... the blood of ours will do just fine.

Can you add me to your ping list? Thanks.

39 posted on 09/14/2013 12:37:06 PM PDT by GOPJ (As Iowahawk..summed it up Putin is now just basically doing donuts in Obama’s front yard." Steyn)
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To: Lazamataz

bfl
thanks for doing this


40 posted on 09/14/2013 12:55:29 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: Lazamataz
IS THE USA ON THE WRONG SIDE?

There is no right side to be on.

41 posted on 09/14/2013 12:58:34 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Ceausescu
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42 posted on 09/14/2013 1:03:20 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: GOPJ
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43 posted on 09/14/2013 1:03:26 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
thanks for doing this

'This my pleasure. :)

44 posted on 09/14/2013 1:04:16 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: MV=PY

Good distinctions, my FRiend.


45 posted on 09/14/2013 1:04:55 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Ditter
In Syria I think both sides are wrong.

I agree, and somehow, we STILL managed to come in and screw it all up. Amazing....

46 posted on 09/14/2013 1:05:39 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: chulaivn66

LOL, neat thought on your part....


47 posted on 09/14/2013 1:06:08 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz

The moron in charge screwed it up. Is he really a moron or just NOT playing on our team?


48 posted on 09/14/2013 1:07:54 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter
You know the answer to that question!

The answer is, YES.

49 posted on 09/14/2013 1:11:03 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: opentalk
Nobody can figure out whether Obama is the most hapless bumbler in history,or whether there is some sinister purpose behind it all.

Personally, I think he's doing exactly what he wants. Hard to believe he could always manage to be on the Islamic fundamentalist's side of a conflict by mere incompetence.

50 posted on 09/14/2013 1:16:58 PM PDT by Vinnie
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