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In Russia, politics and nationalist pride are the basis of Putinís anti-American turn
Washington Post ^ | Sept 14, 2013 | By Kathy Lally and Will Englund,

Posted on 09/14/2013 3:31:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

MOSCOW — First, Vladimir Putin accused Hillary Rodham Clinton of inciting protests against him at the end of 2011.

The next fall, the Russian president threw the U.S. Agency for International Development out of his country. Then he decided civic groups that get U.S. financing must be foreign agents.

By the end of last year, Putin decided Americans had become unfit to adopt Russian children. This summer he decided to harbor Edward Snowden, the National Security Agency document leaker, despite strenuous U.S. objections.

And ever since the Syrian conflict began, Putin has thwarted President Obama’s attempts to get the United Nations to intervene.

Saturday, Russian and U.S. officials agreed on a plan to remove and destroy Syria’s chemical weapons, but Putin still shows no interest in dropping his support for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad despite U.S. assertions that he is destroying his country.

Surely this describes a powerful Russian leader who enjoys nothing more than finding any opportunity he can to land a nasty sucker punch to Obama.

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Dear Washington Post:

Putin is Russian. We've been at the brink of war with Marxist Russia for over a half century. It's natural that he might not like America very much.

But what's your excuse for your long-standing anti-Americanism? And what's your excuse for the pathetic, weak-assed B. Hussein Obama's anti-American Marxism?

I'd say you and Obama are just about on equal footing with Putin for hating America, hating our founding principles, hating our constitution, hating our Judeo-Christian heritage and hating our traditional America way of life.

Oh, wait a minute. At least Putin claims to believe in Christianity, God-given Liberty, equality and the fight against Islamofascism/terrorism. You don't.

1 posted on 09/14/2013 3:31:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
But what's your excuse for your long-standing anti-Americanism? And what's your excuse for the pathetic, weak-assed B. Hussein Obama's anti-American Marxism?

Hey there, good lookin', whatcha doin' in 2016...? ;-)

2 posted on 09/14/2013 3:34:36 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: workerbee
enjoys nothing more than finding any opportunity he can to land a nasty sucker punch to Obama.

Well, hell, who wouldn't?!?!

3 posted on 09/14/2013 3:35:34 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: workerbee

Well, certainly the Republicans wouldn’t.

Putin - Doing the job the Republicans refuse to do.


4 posted on 09/14/2013 3:38:53 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

You are so sadly correct!!


5 posted on 09/14/2013 3:40:43 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Jim Robinson

Yikes! the reset button from the last term malfunctioned. Quick, someone send Kerry over to Russia with a new reset button.


6 posted on 09/14/2013 3:40:53 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: Jim Robinson

“By the end of last year, Putin decided Americans had become unfit to adopt Russian children.”

Wasn’t that after cases of abuse were reported, and even instances where homosexuals had used fake names to get Russian children?


7 posted on 09/14/2013 3:42:11 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: workerbee

I don’t take it as anti-American, I take it as anti-Obama. I have no problem with that.


8 posted on 09/14/2013 3:46:25 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Jim Robinson
He [Putin] does not think the Arab Spring made the Middle East a better place.

And Putin is right while Obummer thinks the Arab Spring has worked out just wonderful. In reality it's benefited al Qaeda and the MB and that doesn't seem to bother Obummer in the least.

9 posted on 09/14/2013 3:48:34 PM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: Moorings
Bush was so derided for his foreign policy. The wonder boys in the last five years have managed to get us to the brink of another cold war. We have no allies left in the middle east. Israel feels that it has no friend but to fend for itself. Egypt, a long standing ally in many controversies, is angry with us. Saudis think that we are molly-coddling extremist groups to destabilize the region.

International diplomacy and power games are not for limp-wristed metro-sexuals.

10 posted on 09/14/2013 3:50:16 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: Jim Robinson

These WaPo writers don’t have a clue. Putin sees Islam as the biggest threat to Russia. He is not too worried about the US when clowns like Obama are in charge.

If his goal was to harm the US, it would have made more sense for him to draw Obama into the Syrian civil war and then keep arming Assad.

And by the way, the ban on the adoption of Russian kids mentioned in the article only applies to gay couples. Another reason for the WaPo to hate him.


11 posted on 09/14/2013 3:50:32 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: ilovesarah2012

Well, I agree, though I’m under no delusion that Putin is somehow on the side of the average American! NOT!


12 posted on 09/14/2013 3:52:12 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Jim Robinson
Oh, wait a minute. At least Putin claims to believe in Christianity, God-given Liberty, equality and the fight against Islamofascism/terrorism. You don't.

If all it is, is a claim, it's a hell of an expensive one. There are less expensive ways to put on shows than building 200 new Christian churches in and around Moscow and reconstructing that gigantic cathedral in Moscow which the commies tore down to build a swimming pool in 22 or 23:


13 posted on 09/14/2013 3:54:18 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: Viennacon

Yep, and I don’t blame Putin one tiny bit for prohibiting Americans from adopting Russian children because of that. In fact, I admire him for that stand.


14 posted on 09/14/2013 4:00:07 PM PDT by greene66
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To: Jim Robinson

Hussein claims to be a “Christian” of sorts:

FALSANI: What do you believe?

OBAMA: I am a Christian.

So, I have a deep faith. So I draw from the Christian faith.

On the other hand, I was born in Hawaii where obviously there are a lot of Eastern influences.

I lived in Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world, between the ages of six and 10.

My father was from Kenya, and although he was probably most accurately labeled an agnostic, his father was Muslim.

And I’d say, probably, intellectually I’ve drawn as much from Judaism as any other faith.

So, I’m rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people. That there are values that transcend race or culture, that move us forward, and there’s an obligation for all of us individually as well as collectively to take responsibility to make those values lived.

And so, part of my project in life was probably to spend the first 40 years of my life figuring out what I did believe - I’m 42 now - and it’s not that I had it all completely worked out, but I’m spending a lot of time now trying to apply what I believe and trying to live up to those values.

AND he is not only embarrassed to speak of Christ, he admits he is the type of “Christian” who thinks that Jesus was only a “great teacher”:

FALSANI: Who’s Jesus to you?

(He laughs nervously)

OBAMA: Right.

Jesus is an historical figure for me, and he’s also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher.

And he’s also a wonderful teacher. I think it’s important for all of us, of whatever faith, to have teachers in the flesh and also teachers in history.

AND he ducks the question whether he has ever been a member of another faith (e.g. Islam):

FALSANI: Have you always been a Christian?

OBAMA: I was raised more by my mother and my mother was Christian.

Obama’s “Christian Faith” In His Own Words
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2578739/posts


15 posted on 09/14/2013 4:05:23 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: varmintman

Which leads to an interesting question: if Obama rebuilt a church or two, and came out against gay marriage, would FReepers support him? If not, why not?


16 posted on 09/14/2013 4:06:15 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Jim Robinson
When I saw the title of this piece (and I do mean piece), I was going to post the following:

In Russia, politics and nationalist pride are the basis of Putin’s anti-American turn

What, pray tell, is the basis of the Washington Post's historical anti-American turn?

Then I read Jim's comment, and I'm late and short, again, drat.

17 posted on 09/14/2013 4:09:30 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Don’t worry. He won’t.


18 posted on 09/14/2013 4:12:00 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I'd say you and Obama are just about on equal footing with Putin for hating America, hating our founding principles, hating our constitution, hating our Judeo-Christian heritage and hating our traditional America way of life.

I'd say Putin doesn't dislike us for all of that stuff - he dislikes us because we're responsible for the collapse of Russian empire (i.e. the loss of the Ukraine, the various stans, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, the Baltic states and the Warsaw Pact, which might eventually have been annexed to Russia), and we've continued to knock down traditional Russian client regimes like so many dominoes, with the most recent victim being Gaddafi. At the time of Bush I's Chicken Kiev speech in 1991, I thought it was timid. In retrospect, I understand why he was cautious. The problem is that when you're dealing with the rulers of an empire armed with 20K nukes, you also have to factor in the possibility of them pulling down the temple over all of our heads.

19 posted on 09/14/2013 4:14:11 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Jim Robinson
What's awful about this is we have the Russian “president” taking below the belt shots at the POTUS.

At any other time, this would be cause for outrage. Under Obama, we are forced to agree with his sentiments.

That pisses me off to no end.

Putin IS a thug. Former KGB.

I really am beginning to believe this is a “good cop, bad cop” scenario.

20 posted on 09/14/2013 4:14:42 PM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: BenLurkin

Ok, then—imagine you are a Russian dissident, facing prison and thinking of fleeing overseas. Feel better that the church down the street is being remodeled?


21 posted on 09/14/2013 4:15:21 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Jim Robinson
I'd say you and Obama are just about on equal footing with Putin for hating America, hating our founding principles, hating our constitution, hating our Judeo-Christian heritage and hating our traditional America way of life.

Oh, wait a minute. At least Putin claims to believe in Christianity, God-given Liberty, equality and the fight against Islamofascism/terrorism. You don't.

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I never thought that I'd see the day that Americans would unfavorably compare a president to a Russian leader. Never.

It angers me that we have been forced to this point in our country. This should never have happened.

22 posted on 09/14/2013 4:22:00 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

The reason Putin won’t allow Americans to adopt Russian children is because homosexuals were adopting them with the expected abuse and molesting.

IMHO Putin is at least doing what he thinks is good for Russia. 0bunghole is doing everything he can that is BAD for America.


23 posted on 09/14/2013 4:25:17 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Viennacon

That’s the precise reason.


24 posted on 09/14/2013 4:26:18 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Agreed!


25 posted on 09/14/2013 4:26:48 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: greene66

Don’t admire him too much. You have no idea how many neglected children in Russia that could fine loving home in US. Unfortunately few bad apples on our side did so much damage.


26 posted on 09/14/2013 4:34:17 PM PDT by QQQQ
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To: QQQQ

Well, America should have never allowed homo perverts to adopt children in the first place. Back when America was a great and moral country, ruled by “common sense,” it never tolerated such depraved insanity.


27 posted on 09/14/2013 4:45:39 PM PDT by greene66
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To: greene66

Sexual orientation have nothing to do with a being pervert. I do agree with you about common sense statement. Look around and you can see people cruel to elderly, children, pets. Back to middle ages.


28 posted on 09/14/2013 5:22:50 PM PDT by QQQQ
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To: Zhang Fei
If Putin dislikes us, it's because neocons tried to destroy Russia AFTER the fall of the CCCP, and because SlicKKK KKKlintler bombed a totally innocent Slavic Orthodox Christian nation for eighty days and nights including Easter Sunday for the benefit of narco-terrorists and savages and to take that Juanita Broaddrick story off our own front pages, and there's another motive as well which involves George Soro and the international banking cartel and the sort of stunt which Soros and Obunga pulled in Libya two years ago.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MD14Ak02.html

The term BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China) means the block of countries which are outside of the US/British/European money and banking system (IMF, BIS etc. Derivatives-R-US etc.) and might actually survive when that system finally collapses, which it will unless something radical happens.

29 posted on 09/14/2013 5:43:35 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: KittenClaws
Putin IS a thug. Former KGB.

So was St. Paul at one point in his life...

30 posted on 09/14/2013 5:44:58 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: workerbee
...enjoys nothing more than finding any opportunity he can to land a nasty sucker punch to Obama.

Maybe Putin is partial to easy targets.

31 posted on 09/14/2013 6:12:12 PM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Saturday, Russian and U.S. officials agreed on a plan to remove and destroy Syria’s chemical weapons

No worries. Hitlery will make sure they don't "overcharge" us.

32 posted on 09/14/2013 6:26:40 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: 1rudeboy

Why not? His lips are moving.


33 posted on 09/14/2013 7:40:20 PM PDT by glyptol
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To: Viennacon
yes - exactly - and he's not allowing in country gays to adopt children in Russia.

He believes in traditional marriage.

he's the ONLY world leader bringing attention to - and calling for help to stop the slaughter of Christians

He's brought back the freedom and prominence of the church in Russia

So he doesn't like the muzzie loving, wimpy gay-pushing (Obama EVEN had the nerve to arrange an hour long meeting with gay leaders in Russia, promising help!) anti-Christian, warmongering muslim trying to reestablish the caliphate - handing first Libya, then Egypt,now wanting to give Syria to his MB - bringing up to the brink of WW111 -

Russia seems to be slowly becoming what we once were - while the POS in DC is turning us into what Russia used to be.

http://answersforthefaith.com/2013/08/08/putin-world-leaders-should-unite-to-end-christian-persecution/

While obama met with the gay leaders in Russia - Putin was doing this - link below. (What obama did was a blatant insult while a guest in another country - the height of ignorance, and arrogance - and certainly an embarrassment to us.

http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=10742

The Restored Cathedral of Christ in Moscow, the largest cathedral in Russia

http://www.123rf.com/photo_7308397_the-restored-cathedral-of-christ-the-savior-in-moscow-at-night.html

While our ‘dear leader’ gives a lavish state dinner EVERY year for muzzie leaders at the WH in honor Ramadan, Putin does this

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20130725/182424969/Christianity-Made-Russia-Great-World-Power—Putin.html

Putin speaks without a teleprompter - o’bummer NEVER sounds sincere...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3d_yxJhmjk the press certainly didn't report it - but the photos of Putin and other world leaders arriving together for the dinner - with no 'bummer in sight - he arrived 1/2 an hour later - all alone, no one greeting him, no lights even - etcetc - he was SHUNNED by the world leaders, and no one dared report it. He is a disgrace to our country.

34 posted on 09/14/2013 8:40:29 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: Jim Robinson

Putin publishes an anti-Obama op-ed in the NYT, Obamamedia has to respond and diss him. Everything’s normal.


35 posted on 09/14/2013 8:43:16 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: 1rudeboy
Which leads to an interesting question: if Obama rebuilt a church or two, and came out against gay marriage, would FReepers support him?

Dude, breathe out, you're getting purple from holding your breath!

36 posted on 09/14/2013 8:44:45 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Navy Patriot
Then I read Jim's comment, and I'm late and short, again, drat.

Ditto here.

Leaving no @$$ unkicked.

37 posted on 09/14/2013 8:46:04 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: KittenClaws
Putin IS a thug.

Wow, what a deep, original, insightful, enlightening discovery. Got any more of those?

38 posted on 09/14/2013 8:46:14 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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he admits he is the type of “Christian” who thinks that Jesus was only a “great teacher”:

Exactly what muzzies believer - they ever revere Jesus -"Issa" as a great prophet and teacher. And that's all.

39 posted on 09/14/2013 8:50:41 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: Jim Robinson
"But what's your excuse for your long-standing anti-Americanism? And what's your excuse for the pathetic, weak-assed B. Hussein Obama's anti-American Marxism?"

Washington Post piece is junk. And I don't see why patriotic feelings (rebaptized "nationalist pride" by WP), is bad for Russians and good for Americans.

40 posted on 09/14/2013 8:51:20 PM PDT by Marguerite ( When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: KittenClaws
Two words that should be banned are thug and rino. They have become meaningless.
41 posted on 09/14/2013 9:01:51 PM PDT by duckln
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Yeah, no crap. Thanks JimRob.


42 posted on 09/14/2013 9:02:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Putin is protecting his country’s interests in its near-abroad which includes Syria, and doing a good job at it, while the US is unable to protect our interests in Libya and Egypt, and everywhere else during these times. “What difference does it make” say our privileged ruling elites, and it is being heard over there and translated into Arabic, Russian and Chinese, so stop complaining, it is no longer the anti-Americanism of the Soviet Union and Red China. Putin’s alleged anti-Americansm, cannot ever match the actual anti-Americanism of the pair in the White Hut (or is it a trio, including Valerie?!)


43 posted on 09/14/2013 9:03:48 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: varmintman
your photo of the cathedral is best of the hundreds I've looked at - I 'stolen' it as a photo - wich I could get it on a link!

BTW, have you seen the old photo of the Communists's actually destruction of the original cathedral? To destroy such a building! Pure evil.

To think they totally rebuilt it!

44 posted on 09/14/2013 9:04:05 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: varmintman
So was St. Paul at one point in his life...

(thug)

Good analogy. Paul hunted, peresecuted and slaughtered Christians for 10 years - ordered the stoning of Steven -

Putin was born and raised in Communist Russia - his father was a Communist his mother, who had him baptised in secret, was not.

Putin would have been a street sweeper or some such, had he not been a party member... H

He's carried a cross with him all his life - Who's to say, now that Communism has fallen - and he had gotten himself in a position power - that he's now doing what he's doing, not in pretense, but in finally being able to help Russia into freedom?

I don't know the answer.

But there's more evidence that he's a leader that loves his country than we have in our leader.

45 posted on 09/14/2013 9:19:58 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: maine-iac7

Putin is the best ruler Russia has ever had since Tsar Peter. Bork Obunga is the wort ruler any advanced state has ever had since Nero.


46 posted on 09/14/2013 9:36:34 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: varmintman
The largest mosque in Europe built in Russia under Putin:



47 posted on 09/14/2013 9:38:24 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: maine-iac7
Google image search on // храм христа спасителя //

No end of good pics.


48 posted on 09/14/2013 9:44:47 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: Tailgunner Joe

seek help


49 posted on 09/14/2013 9:46:52 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: varmintman

The largest mosque in Europe was built in Russia under Putin’s regime. Putin appointed the son of the Chechen mufti as dictator of Chechnya and he is instituting sharia law in Russia with Putin’s blessing. Putin sent the Chechens to slaughter Orthodox Christians in Georgia. You don’t want to face these truths.


50 posted on 09/14/2013 9:55:59 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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