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Bill Cosby Tells Don Lemon Black Men Need To Raise Their Kids, Has Message For ‘No-groes’
Mediaite ^ | September 14, 2013 | Mediaite Staff

Posted on 09/14/2013 11:19:55 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi

CNN anchor Don Lemon has, of late, turned the focus of his frequent conversations on race to the idea of personal responsibility in the African American community. On Saturday night’s edition of CNN Newsroom, Lemon continued that controversial trend with comic legend Bill Cosby, who has also felt the heat of controversy on the subject. Cosby talked to Lemon about young black men raising their kids, over-medication of juvenile inmates, and may have even coined a new word: “No-groes.”

For the past few months, Don Lemon has courted controversy with several segments pegged to his general agreement with comments by Fox News personality Bill O’Reilly, aimed at solving problems within the black community. Legendary comic actor Bill Cosby has also stirred controversy by airing grievances against his community, but neither Lemon nor Cosby have backed away from their criticisms. In Saturday night’s interview, Lemon asked Cosby to reflect on the 50th anniversary of the March on Washington, and what kind of African American leaders are needed now.

“I think it has to come from the universities,” Mr. Cosby began. ” I think, women, strongly because when you see 70%, in research, that says they are the leaders of the household, what we need is for people to realize I want to raise my kid. I want to go back and get my three kids. I want to take on that responsibility. I want to love my children.”

He added that one of the sights he’d like to see more of is what he saw at the recent Essence Festival, “walking around to see, yeah, to see a black male with his child on the shoulders and holding.”

He also encouraged young people who might not be able to go to a prestigious college to go to community college.

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1 posted on 09/14/2013 11:19:55 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

2 posted on 09/14/2013 11:31:48 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: homoelectus, husseinusafricanusjunior, maybealittleblow




Putin never wrote autobiographical poems about homo experiences


3 posted on 09/14/2013 11:34:35 PM PDT by devolve (----- ----- ----- a yellow line in the snow ----- ----- -----)
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To: martin_fierro

LOL!


4 posted on 09/14/2013 11:41:55 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

In before liberals reply calling him an Uncle Tom.


5 posted on 09/14/2013 11:54:07 PM PDT by wastedyears (One nation, under wub. Saints Row IV)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Community college? It would be a blessing if they bother to finish high school.


6 posted on 09/15/2013 12:51:43 AM PDT by informavoracious (We're being "punished" with Stanley Ann's baby. Obamacare: shovel-ready healthcare.)
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To: martin_fierro

LOL!!!

You dork!

That’s Mr. Huxtable yer makin funnuh!!!

OMG, that’s heelarryus!!!


7 posted on 09/15/2013 12:58:05 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
The Great Bill Cosby has been one of the few, consistent and sane voices from the Black community about the Black community.

He has tried in vain to open up this sensitive subject and make the community deal with their failing reality. He has been shouted down and criticized for speaking the truth.

He really cares and has great ideas but his community can only shout him down, much to their detriment.

His life is one that should be admired and copied by his brethren. Bill Cosby believes in ADVANCEMENT not stagnation.

8 posted on 09/15/2013 1:06:23 AM PDT by Netz
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
He also encouraged young people who might not be able to go to a prestigious college to go to community college.

First, get a real elementary education.

Second, get a real high-school education.

Finally, get a job. I have a BS and an MBA, but this notion that college is the only way to succeed is ruining this country.

9 posted on 09/15/2013 1:46:10 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Bill makes so much sense. However, this trend for fatherless sons and daughters is coming for the white community as well. As long as the gov’t will forcibly take money from someone and pay the mother monthly to be alone, she will. The gov’t has succeeded in taking entire generations away from their core values. I am divorced and I saw how much this impacted and still impacts my own children. It was a stupid thing to do, that I cannot take back. I however, did not have child support.


10 posted on 09/15/2013 2:34:48 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: momincombatboots

Relevant to your post - “LBJ’s Great Society: 40 Years Later” => http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1483206/posts


11 posted on 09/15/2013 4:00:52 AM PDT by Ken H (First rule of gun safety - have a gun)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

I don’t know. Would you rather have a black kid raised without a father or have him raised by a Traybon-thug or some other Son Of Barack? It’s a real dilemma.


12 posted on 09/15/2013 4:03:40 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Sadly, I am always SHOCKED when I see a black FAMILY together.....that is a very sad state of affairs but it’s very unusual.


13 posted on 09/15/2013 4:23:02 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

Well, you might see most of the family, but the DAD(s) is usually not there.


14 posted on 09/15/2013 4:29:28 AM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: DennisR

HELLO....that’s what we’re talking about!!!! geesh, that was the focus of the article and my comment!


15 posted on 09/15/2013 4:33:41 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
Lemon asked “Why is it so hard for some people to get that message, to hear that message, to receive that message, and without lashing out?” “Well, it’s because they feel, I think they feel embarrassed,” Cosby replied.

Time to get over it. Too bad Cosby is getting so rambling and incoherent in his live interviews. He needs a few younger men to take up his campaign. Lemon seems like a good start. But most prominent athletes and entertainers are thugs themselves, so it's going to be tough to find some more good ones.

Ben Carson types are too "white" for a lot of black people. Those damn Oreo guys who go to school, finish it with good grades, get jobs in the "white" world, earn a decent living, raise a Huxtable family with nice kids, are just too much for them.

They know the white man's ways are just wrong for them. They want to be athletes, actors, and rappers with a lot of bling and no responsibilities. But it's not working out all that well for 93% of them, even though they bought into obama. Yes, they are embarrassed because their stupid, childish ideas just plain suck. Time to admit it.

It's going to take generations of chipping away at the problem OR one truly amazing black leader with the ability to slap some sense back into them in a hurry.

16 posted on 09/15/2013 4:34:42 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: wastedyears

They can’t even accept the truth from thier own


17 posted on 09/15/2013 4:43:16 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (What you get when you refuse to vet)
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To: Netz
He really cares and has great ideas but his community can only shout him down, much to their detriment.

Agreed. One of the inner city pastors I've been working with says blacks need to drop the false revulsion toward "selling out". He says its OK for a black man to sell poison to his neighbors on a street corner and he's treated as a hero for doing so but a man who works to raise his family is treated like a pariah.

Its some really backward thinking. The reality is the family man lives a much better and usually longer life. That's not selling out, that's selling up.
18 posted on 09/15/2013 4:48:47 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Right Wing Assault
Ben Carson types are too "white" for a lot of black people.

Unfortunately true and to make matters worse that is exactly the type of black man that republicans try pushing on blacks when most will only respect a black man who can build "street cred". Oddly enough I think Herman Cain is one of the few black republicans who could pull it off even over someone like Alan West.

Ben Carson has a role but politics ain't it. He already has hero status in Detroit and there is even a prep school in Detroit carrying his name. (Benjamin Carson High School of Science and Medicine and Detroit Collegiate Prep School) I personally would like to see him with a role in education.
19 posted on 09/15/2013 5:13:49 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
If there were 100,000 Bill Cosby's versus 1 Al Sharpton and 1 Jesse Jackson and 1 Barack Obama, the AA community would be living MLK’s dream.

How can it be that there is status in being ignorant, stupid, violent and irresponsible? My apologist friends would, of course blame everything on the White man.

Everything seems to be outside of the Black man's control, everything. The first way to move ahead is for the AA community to face up to the problem as pointed out by Cosby.

This “blame the other” behavior is prevalent in Arab/Islamic culture as well. The reason that they are living in the 7th century is because of the white imperialists or Jews. Nothing is of their own doing.

Strange that as the Black man left the Church-GOSPEL AND THE BEDROCK OF FAITH and embraced Islam (which enslaved them and sold them to white traders starting in the 15th century onwards), they have gone downhill, especially since all the Great Society enactments of 1964.

Is there a solution? Liberals would say eradicating poverty and Federal programs. Cosby would say, first, take responsibility, take off the Rapper outfit, get a job and start supporting your family that you fathered.

The only one willing to organize countermeasures is another corrupt fat cat named Rev. Farakahn who wants to enslave them into Islam. So where can they turn?

Maybe Cosby can get the ball rolling?

20 posted on 09/15/2013 5:54:23 AM PDT by Netz
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To: Ken H

Blacks must solve the problems in the black community—no Organizer, race hussler, celebrity, or government program can do this thing. It must come from within.


21 posted on 09/15/2013 6:13:41 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

This is the world we live in: “personal responsibility in the African American community” is considered controversial to discuss.

God help us.


22 posted on 09/15/2013 6:18:15 AM PDT by day10 (Integrity has no need of rules.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
Blacks must solve the problems in the black community—no Organizer, race hussler, celebrity, or government program can do this thing. It must come from within.

Name one successful country in the world that has a black leader.

23 posted on 09/15/2013 6:26:50 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (SWAT stands for Storing Weapons for patriots to Attack Tyranny.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Or, for that matter, any successful city that has had a sccession of black mayors.


24 posted on 09/15/2013 6:28:25 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (SWAT stands for Storing Weapons for patriots to Attack Tyranny.)
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To: Right Wing Assault
Ghetto blacks feel envy, not embarrassment. A life of special ed, lower standards, affirmative action, welfare, foodstamps, family members on drugs and stints in jail have destroyed any normal sense of shame. Ghetto blacks in general feel little embarrassment about anything.

For envy to develop, they have to try to succeed and fail multiple times. They do try to emulate the successful but it usually doesn't work. They then come to the conclusion they can't compete fair and square in the white man's world and they check out.

There's no appeasing the envious. When you give them hand outs, they resent it because it's proof you are better than them. They are drawn to communism to break the playing field, and modern civilization, into piles of rubble, but even then their envy will not be gone because the white people will still be envied for having once been richer than them and probably will soon be again. Even if a rich man gave an envious man a check so that both their bank accounts are equal, they will envy him for being a better man. Helping the envious is proof they are inferior.

A heavy dose of humility can treat the envious. A sound non-envious religion can help. Actions to artificially boost their self-esteem only make the envy problem worse.

Ghetto blacks can't compete with suburban whites in employment however they are smarter and more capable than most any other animal. If they had their own playing field, half of them would succeed, which is much more than do now. They've already organized themselves into big city reservations. Put up a border around the cities and have import taxes and they can pursue happiness on their own terms.

You can't help the envious like Bill Cosby is trying to do. They have to help themselves or it's a no-gro.

25 posted on 09/15/2013 6:49:43 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: momincombatboots
Bill makes so much sense. However, this trend for fatherless sons and daughters is coming for the white community as well. As long as the gov’t will forcibly take money from someone and pay the mother monthly to be alone, she will. The gov’t has succeeded in taking entire generations away from their core values.

Sadly, too true. The government has destroyed the Black family unit and replaced it with a government check. Unfortunately, this works from a purely political perspective, making and entire class reliant on the government. It will, in short order, collapse the entire society. I'm not sure the problem can be rectified, or if it simply has to play out to the point of total collapse. Historically, total collapse has been the norm.

26 posted on 09/15/2013 6:51:31 AM PDT by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: Netz

“How can it be that there is status in being ignorant, stupid, violent and irresponsible?”

Multiculturalism has not only made it a sin to criticize the dysfunctional black subculture. Furthermore since such cultures are diametrically opposed to the hated traditional American culture they are celebrated by the left. After all the long stated goal of the leftists is the “dismantling” of American culture.


27 posted on 09/15/2013 7:03:58 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

OTOH, ranting and raving about how “wealth” should be redistributed and “affirmative action” and race-norming should be redistributing even more jobs and educational opportunities are also up their alleys.

Thanks NotYourAverageDhimmi.


28 posted on 09/15/2013 7:48:58 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

The truth is that these are the real black leaders. They recognize the desperate situation black America finds itself in today, and are begging and pleading for cultural reform so it does not exterminate itself with cultural suicide.

The most important reform black America needs is straightforward: “No sex outside of marriage.”

This must come first, because the response to the second reform, “No children outside of marriage”, is *not* mitigated by long term birth control and abortion. Those just make the situation far worse. So black Americans must accept “No sex outside of marriage” as their cardinal rule.

Only then does the third reform matter. That “education is the key to success.” Not sports. Not music. But book learning- to take every possible advantage of education.

Finally, the fourth reform: that honor and dignity come from education and hard work, and these are the opposite of criminal behavior. An honorable black person should never associate with a criminal black person.


29 posted on 09/15/2013 8:08:02 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: Right Wing Assault
Too bad Cosby is getting so rambling and incoherent in his live interviews.

There's been rumors that he has some type of debilitating illness. He's clearly not the articulate man he was in the 80s.

30 posted on 09/15/2013 8:16:28 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: momincombatboots
Bill makes so much sense. However, this trend for fatherless sons and daughters is coming for the white community as well

Very true. And blended families are now celebrated as something wonderful to strive for.

Also, young white kids are now speaking improper, black speak pretty regularly out in suburbia.

Good job, cultural Marxists, you've been an outstanding success at destroying the country. What do you do for an encore?

31 posted on 09/15/2013 8:19:42 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Right Wing Assault
it's not working out all that well for 93% of them, even though they bought into obama. Yes, they are embarrassed because their stupid, childish ideas just plain suck...It's going to take generations of chipping away at the problem

Charge the domestic-savages with child abuse, no work...no benefits.

Take the kids away and have them raised in Japanese-household fosterhomes, where the parents will insist they excel in school, and be polite.

Have them go to college on their scholarships, and don't let them see the ghetto until they're young adults.

32 posted on 09/15/2013 9:03:20 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: DennisR

I went out to eat last night and saw this up close and personal. One woman and three kids, including one just months old. Chances are he could have been working bc it wasn’t fast food, right? I wonder.


33 posted on 09/15/2013 9:13:38 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Good post.


34 posted on 09/15/2013 9:54:30 AM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: Netz

That is great news. thanks for posting


35 posted on 09/15/2013 10:03:27 AM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: devolve

Nice.


36 posted on 09/15/2013 10:20:56 AM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Take away welfare, and you make it unviable for a woman to allow some charming-but-unemployed to hang around.


37 posted on 09/15/2013 11:32:54 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (this space for rent)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

“...over-medication of juvenile inmates...”

I listened to this interview and had a different take.

What I heard Cosby say, in effect, is that black juveniles who are properly diagnosed and treated in detention for such conditions as ADHD and bipolar disorder, have little or no follow-up psychiatric care and medication on release back into the community. The results are predictable and tragic. Their minds go from being organized to chaotic without their meds.

I agree with this, as the father of a son with “real” ADHD...the kind of ADHD that responds to stimulants by calming down. Calming down permits productive academic work or any kind of learning needed for any trade or work.


38 posted on 09/15/2013 6:14:06 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Ann Archy

Yes, it’s sad. I have the same reaction when I see the rare family with all the elements.


39 posted on 09/15/2013 6:17:11 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: bigheadfred




MACHO MACHO MAN



I WANT TO BE A MACHO MAN


40 posted on 09/16/2013 6:16:57 AM PDT by devolve (----- ----- ----- a yellow line in the snow ----- ----- -----)
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To: devolve

41 posted on 09/16/2013 11:41:40 AM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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