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Rand Paul, 2016 Republican Front-Runner
washingtonpost.com ^ | September 13, 2013 | Chris Cillizza

Posted on 09/15/2013 7:01:45 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

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To: PoloSec

The suggestion that Cruz lacks substance is absurd


51 posted on 09/15/2013 9:19:35 AM PDT by Founding Nephew
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Name recognition is a lot of what these super-early polls are about.


52 posted on 09/15/2013 9:29:35 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: BarnacleCenturion
I call BS on Chris Cillizza's article for this:Plus, he's ranking Ted Cruz at #6, behind Jeb Bush, Paul Ryan, Marco Rubio, and Chris Christie.

This description of his antics at the end of the article pretty finished it off for me:

He obviously is NOT a conservative. And is probably an operative for the GOP-e. Pay no attention.
53 posted on 09/15/2013 9:34:51 AM PDT by upchuck (The nobama regime: a string of omnishambles that stretches, seemingly, to infinity.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Watch McC endorse the establishment shoice, leaving his new-found friend Rand far behind.


54 posted on 09/15/2013 9:39:17 AM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!")
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Could they be any more ignorant of conservatism?


55 posted on 09/15/2013 9:58:19 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: upchuck

His ranking is in line with the latest polls. It’s on point.


56 posted on 09/15/2013 10:00:44 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry
Kasich as VP would be a STRONG addition that makes Ohio a tough nut to crack for the left.

Didn't we hear that last time about Ryan from Wisconsin?

57 posted on 09/15/2013 10:11:22 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Crap! For a second I thought it said Ron Paul.


58 posted on 09/15/2013 10:20:27 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("You keep using that verse, but I do not think it means what you think it means.")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

No, Palin is not in the top ten. I like her, but she’s not winning a national office, nor do I think she even wants to run.

She’s a good spokesperson for the right, and in the position she’s in now she can say what the right is thinking and not give a damn about what anyone thinks. That is a good role for her, but it would be awfully tough to convince most people that she could handle the pressure of being president when she quit as Governor of Alaska because the strain was too great on her family....and that’s not a criticism, I understand, and even admire her for putting her family first. But it would be increased 100 times as President, or even a presidential candidate.

IF she were to run again for something, a better role would probably be as Senator. That would be something she would have a realistic shot at, and she’d be one of 100 and the pressure would be less. But I think the article is accurate that she is not a top 10 candidate for president in 2016.


59 posted on 09/15/2013 10:40:14 AM PDT by SoCalTransplant (Wake me when we get to the part where we alter or abolish it.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Why even speculate? Its going to be Jabba and Jeb or Jeb and Jabba.


60 posted on 09/15/2013 10:51:38 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: SoCalTransplant

I STRONGLY disagree.

If Palin doesn’t run, I’ll gladly stand behind one of the others.

But for now, she’s number one. :D


61 posted on 09/15/2013 1:16:15 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: PoloSec

I like Paul/Cruz or Cruz/Paul


62 posted on 09/15/2013 1:29:30 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: PoloSec

Jeb Bush makes me sick. His son is running for an office here in Texas which I will go and vote against him. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree in that family. Jeb giving Hillary that award was the last straw for any Bush for me.


63 posted on 09/15/2013 1:31:48 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: grania

I think Ron Johnson would be a good VP. He could lose his seat in Wisconsin.

I dont think you would need to have both Paul and Cruz on the same ticket. I think one of them will drop out if necessary.

I trust Rand Paul to be laughed at by a GOP congress when he uses Karl Rove logic to hispander.

I trust Paul more as an executive than his behaviour as a Senator on amnesty.


64 posted on 09/15/2013 2:32:17 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Neocons don’t play nice. Rand Paul will be smeared out of public life if he makes a serious run. It will be ugly.

This was a nice couple of weeks. But prepare for the dying empire to continue perpetual war. Pray for your kids.


65 posted on 09/15/2013 3:02:48 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: mylife; miss marmelstein
Some things are true.....Perry has been forever tainted by his bad performance in his last bid for prez.

He NEVER told the viewers he had back surgery and was on medication. All of his gaffs can be blamed on his bad politicking.

One of the reasons he probably isn't running for reelection as governor is that he can't get elected----Texans NEVER knew until the presidential debate that he had given illegals in-state tuition.

Perry is the one that told the electorate WE were heartless WRT amnesty.......making us the villains and himself the good ol' latino suckup boy.

The way he entered the prez race was an outrage---he never campaigned---but he stopped the momentum of Michele Bachman who actually won the primary. Perry acted like he had won---plastering himself allover the media w/ that snarky Texas grin.

66 posted on 09/15/2013 3:13:30 PM PDT by Liz
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To: grania

“How could Paul mess it up? The mistake would be if a nominated Rand Paul chooses one of those establishment politicians for VP. US citizens know what globalist sellouts are, and choosing one would give the dems an opening.”

Like Reagan did, beginning a 12 year GOP run?

He had the wisdom to know he needed those establishment votes, to win.


67 posted on 09/15/2013 3:32:15 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker

I don’t think the comparison to Reagan’s VP choice is valid. Most people are fed up with the mess establishment choices have made of the country....including Reagan’s VP.


68 posted on 09/15/2013 4:10:51 PM PDT by grania
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To: Liz

Yeah and he was a ****ty Gov to boot! *snarky Tx grin*

For 4 terms.


69 posted on 09/15/2013 4:43:13 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

While I’d greatly prefer Rand Paul to crypto-liberals like Jeb Bush and Chris Christie, I find his support for amnesty for illegal immigrants hard to stomach. I don’t think that I could bring myself to vote for any pro-amnesty candidate, which, as far as I know, leaves Ted Cruz as the only acceptable GOP candidate who is likely to be running.


70 posted on 09/15/2013 6:29:24 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: grania

“I don’t think the comparison to Reagan’s VP choice is valid. Most people are fed up with the mess establishment choices have made of the country....including Reagan’s VP.”

My point is you need the entire spectrum of the GOP, to win.

A new factor is the “libertarian” part of the spectrum, which seems quite popular.

The GOP has not held power since 2006, so the mess now is not theirs.


71 posted on 09/15/2013 6:33:26 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: grania

A more likely scenario would be an establishment candidate like Jeb Bush or Christie picking a conservative running mate like Paul or Cruz as a token. Since the VP has virtually no actual authority, barring the death of a President, it would be all for show.


72 posted on 09/15/2013 6:35:14 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Honest injun, I’m not saying this with any snark in my heart or voice, but you really think that Sarah Palin would get 270 electoral votes?

I think she’d get approximately the amount of support that Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity would. Now, I’d love a President Sean or President Rush, but realistically it ain’t going to happen.

Now, granted, I’m the guy who thinks we are beyond voting in this country, the mooches, morons and soon to be the illegals just have overwhelmed the electorate...but as much as I agree with her, I just think Sarah is too polarizing. In other words, I agree with her WAY too much to every think she has a chance with the low information voters LOL.


73 posted on 09/15/2013 7:21:06 PM PDT by SoCalTransplant (Wake me when we get to the part where we alter or abolish it.)
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To: SoCalTransplant

I would gladly vote for Rand Paul or Ted Cruz, but in a national election they would have almost zero chance to win.
The voting majority are just slightly ahead of Koo Koo the gorilla. Paul and Cruz will hit them with to much truth and that can’t be processed by the simpletons that make up the voting majority.


74 posted on 09/15/2013 7:25:46 PM PDT by Farnsworth ("The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness...This and no)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Chris Christie is a Northeast anti-gun Republican. He also signed absolutely Tyrannical legislation relating to Free Speech and the conversion of gays to ex-gays.

Consequently, Christie has absolutely no chance of winning the GOP nomination in 2016, nor any chance of being on the ticket as VP. Any northeasterners who think Christie is a viable national candidate are beyond deluded.

If there's one thing that can de-energize the conservative/TEA party base, it's liberal northeast Republican gun-grabbers.

Combine that with the fact that Christie consistently has to wipe 0bama's j--m off his face, I'd say that Christie is about as likely to be the GOP nominee in 2016 as Mitt Romney is...

75 posted on 09/15/2013 7:47:38 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these here Boncentration Bamps!)
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To: PoloSec

Cruz is the best bar none. Rand Paul voted to confirm Kerry and Hagel saying that Obama deserves some lee way. Give me a break..our Clown in Chief already had his leeway with Hillary.
Cruz voted against both.


76 posted on 09/15/2013 7:56:28 PM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Completely bogus list. Palin not in the top 10?

I know. I can't take a 2016 candidate poll seriously, that doesn't have Palin in it.

77 posted on 09/15/2013 8:11:50 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ez
Governors traditionally have an advantage over legislators in the race For Preezy. We would be wise to nominate a gov this time around.

I agree.



78 posted on 09/15/2013 8:16:16 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Probably because Palin won’t run. I’d vote for her in a second if she did, but her time was 2012. I still have no idea why she passed it up.


79 posted on 09/15/2013 9:18:33 PM PDT by RB156
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To: IbJensen

I’m ashamed I voted for McCain and Romney. But I’m proud to say I never voted for old man Bush.


80 posted on 09/15/2013 9:54:35 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: ek_hornbeck
re: Paul or Cruz as VP

I don't think it'll fool voters anymore. Unless the nominee is obviously someone like Paul or Cruz, it'll give the dems an opening. At this time, the dems don't have anyone. Obama has sucked the life out of the Democratic Party. JMHO

81 posted on 09/16/2013 4:04:13 AM PDT by grania
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To: RB156

We’ll see.

I believe she decided to stay with her family last time, and will be ready to run next time.

I strongly believe that to be the case.


82 posted on 09/16/2013 5:53:14 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: VerySadAmerican

You’re ashamed. I’m disgusted.

The backroom cronies of Republicanism cluster about In smoke filled rooms and.......voila! We get the same old turds.

Rand Paul, Gary Johnson, Ted Cruz are like a breath of fresh air. Pull the plug on the central socialist government. Deny all past presidents pensions and staff.

When they’re done, they’re done. Obama was done within days after being sworn at.


83 posted on 09/16/2013 6:23:24 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Farnsworth

I agree with you for the most part. I think Rand Paul miiiiight have a little bit of a chance because he’d get conservatives and some libertarians thanks to his dad’s name recognition...but that’s a chance.


84 posted on 09/16/2013 1:53:04 PM PDT by SoCalTransplant (Wake me when we get to the part where we alter or abolish it.)
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To: SoCalTransplant

Forgot about the Libertarian connection, but I don’t think they like him as much as daddy Paul. Don’t know, I almost rather have a strong leader in the Senate


85 posted on 09/16/2013 4:43:31 PM PDT by Farnsworth ("The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness...This and no)
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To: Farnsworth

I dont think he could peel them off in droves, but if he could get 30% of them it would help.

The Senate’s nice, but we have to have the bully pulpit. In the senate he’s one of 100, and is easily countered by Lindsay Graham or John McQueeg.


86 posted on 09/16/2013 6:18:53 PM PDT by SoCalTransplant (Wake me when we get to the part where we alter or abolish it.)
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To: SoCalTransplant

I admire your optimism, but I don’t think we’ll have a Rep thats not a RINO at the pulpit for a very long time.


87 posted on 09/16/2013 8:20:06 PM PDT by Farnsworth ("The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness...This and no)
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To: Farnsworth

The odds are certainly on your side, and I wouldn’t call myself an optimist. I think its going to get far worse before it gets better. I’m more trying to see ways it possibly COULD work, but that isn’t to say that I think its a likely scenario.


88 posted on 09/16/2013 8:52:12 PM PDT by SoCalTransplant (Wake me when we get to the part where we alter or abolish it.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I don’t think he could even win KY, much less be elected President.


89 posted on 09/16/2013 9:42:41 PM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!")
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To: VerySadAmerican
"old man" Bush

No, they call him "Poppy".

90 posted on 09/16/2013 9:44:19 PM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!")
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To: RB156

I don’t even think Palin would win AK if she runs for President in 2016. It’s too Murkowskicized.


91 posted on 09/16/2013 9:45:19 PM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!")
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To: sargon
Christie has absolutely no chance of winning the GOP nomination in 2016

Uh, considering the quality of Republican primary voters, you might want to revise this statement.

92 posted on 09/16/2013 9:47:05 PM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!")
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Interesting there’s no mention of Palin.
I think she may still have a surprise up her sleeve.


93 posted on 09/16/2013 9:55:08 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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