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Israel Sobered By Syria Debacle
Frontpage Mag ^ | 9/13/13 | P. David Hornik

Posted on 09/15/2013 7:47:29 AM PDT by Nachum

Saturday marks Yom Kippur, the holiest day on the Jewish calendar and, this year, the 40th anniversary of the outbreak of the Yom Kippur War, the greatest trauma in Israeli history.

On the morning of October 6, 1973—the day on which Yom Kippur fell that year—Chief of Staff David Elazar met with Prime Minister Golda Meir and Defense Minister Moshe Dayan to warn that the Egyptian and Syrian armies were about to attack Israel. Elazar urged a preemptive strike; six years earlier, in the Six-Day War, Israel’s preemptive strike had proved highly effective.

But Meir and Dayan, who were under heavy pressure from U.S. secretary of state Henry Kissinger not to preempt, overruled the chief of staff. The result was near-catastrophic as later that day the Egyptian and Syrian armies attacked first and took battlefield advantages while inflicting heavy casualties.

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TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 1973war; davidelazar; egypt; goldameir; henrykissinger; iran; iraq; israel; jordan; lebanon; moshedayan; octoberwar; russia; sobered; syria; unitedkingdom; waronterror; yomkippurwar
Netanyahu: We can only rely on ourselves.
1 posted on 09/15/2013 7:47:29 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


2 posted on 09/15/2013 7:48:01 AM PDT by Nachum (I am Breitbartacus!)
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To: Nachum

Israel has seemed to have stayed out of this, at least publicly, because Bibi understands American politics. But the idiot leftists at AIPAC, the “pro”-Israel lobbying group (which also backs the Oslo disaster) stupidly lobbied for Obama’s strike. An Israeli gov’t source I read said Bibi is furious at AIPAC for doing this.


3 posted on 09/15/2013 7:52:20 AM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: Nachum

This is one of the reasons that I so despise henry kissinger. The man is evil.


4 posted on 09/15/2013 8:07:12 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Nachum.

The cover story of the issue I just got of Military History Quarterly is about the October War, it’s okay, the issue isn’t shown on the website yet.

http://www.historynet.com/magazines/mhq

https://www.google.com/search?q=seventh%20brigade%201973

http://www.eze33.com/brigade/barak.htm


5 posted on 09/15/2013 8:11:29 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Nachum

So very sad IMO. WE, and Israel herself were all there was between Israel’s existance, and oblivion, but today thanks to the idiocy of the American populace we threw away our standing as the protectors of Free peoples around the World.

WE shouldn’t be the World’s police, but we could stand for, and influence the same GOD given rights for our allies as for ourselves. I think that was as it should be, but no more with this crowd in charge.

Their goals are towards their perception of a New World Order with them in charge. There’s no place for individualism, freedom, God in that New World Order they are hastening to establish.


6 posted on 09/15/2013 8:11:38 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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Sinai 1973:

https://www.google.com/search?q=sinai%20battle%201973

Here’s a photo of the big prefab pontoon bridge Israel had engineered and built a few years earlier, then stashed in the Sinai, just in case an offensive across the Canal was ever needed — and whaddayaknow, turned out that it was; I believe the IDF also captured at least one of the Egyptian bridges and used that as well:

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?166729-The-Israeli-bridge-helped-1973-to-first-crossing-of-Suez-Canal-quot-Operation-Gazelle-quot


7 posted on 09/15/2013 8:18:04 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: montag813

“An Israeli gov’t source I read said Bibi is furious at AIPAC for doing this.”

Got a link? Love to see that!


8 posted on 09/15/2013 9:22:41 AM PDT by Yehuda (Pres Obortion, Sen.McAnus, & Hillary Rotten Clinton all kiss the *ss of the muslim brotherhood.)
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To: rockinqsranch

What’s horrible is that Christians and other minorities are being slaughtered in those countries where the US finagled to get dictators toppled. If Assad, Putin, and their armies will protect the Christian villages why should I be opposed to that?


9 posted on 09/15/2013 9:27:56 AM PDT by grania
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To: Yehuda
Got a link? Love to see that!

It was an unnamed source on Arutz Sheva. I'll look for it, Yehuda. Have a great Shavuot.

10 posted on 09/15/2013 9:27:59 AM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: montag813

Thx!

Chag Sameach!


11 posted on 09/15/2013 9:30:11 AM PDT by Yehuda (Pres Obortion, Sen.McAnus, & Hillary Rotten Clinton all kiss the *ss of the muslim brotherhood.)
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To: Nachum

Iran probably has all the components for the bomb.

Iran probably tests the assembly “synthetically” -and- vicariously thru its Axis of Terrorism.

Israel now finds that the leftists/Democrat Party/Hollywood *E*lite/liberals/Palace Media (formerly “liberal media”)/progressives/socialists ... are all smiles and no teeth.

So, Israel is faced with making a play or folding, if Israel’s assessment is that -— in particular -— the Obama Regime is as fake as its courtiers.

“The east” just figured that out, but Israel might make a special effort to re-examine things “just one more time,” before daring to try to save itself from the nuclear weapons of the muslim “brotherhood.”

Economic pressures on Germany, have everything to do, with what Israel decides.

Because Israel no longer has the backing of the U.S. Government when the aforementioned, wobbly socialists reign by “words, words, words ... nothing but words.”

Germany matters, because it relies upon sales to several countries that will reduce imports, possibly, should Germany reach some moral limitation on how much suffering Germany can stomach ... as Israel is forced into ... dust?

While everywhere, the Axis of Terrorism aka Islamic Jihad aka “Muslim Brotherhood” and particularly one of their hosts: the Pakistani ISI -— who brought to us, their attacks upon the U.S. on Sept. 11, 2001 -— are maneuvering to overtake and crush *freedom of religion.*

About which, it’s not easy to find a “progressive” who cares and continues to practice PRIDE of EGO that tolerates the terror which can be found in hundreds of news articles revealing how some fanatic of Islam:

- just killed their daughter
- just forced their daughter to be “circumsized”
- just stoned somebody to death for turning to Jesus for help
- just beheaded somebody who would not submit to fascist-Islam
- just shot some woman in a sports arena in front of packed seats

To wit: a male follower of Islamic Jihad, is a power-hungry, power-mongering, xenophobic coward who gets a rush *putting down somebody else* just like a NAZI.

Much like one of the aforementioned socialists, above.

Some shelter from which, “sort of,” Israel found in the U.S.A. until last week, when The Hero of the Collective Obama Regime attempted to start a war in the wrong direction but with plenty of ego.

Now, Israel will have an even tougher time, trying to *reasonably* decipher the words from the Obama Regime, in the hopes that Israel’s previously stalwart friend, The United States of America, is still there?

I’ll make that simple:

In the hearts of many Christians and actual Jews, in which the United States of America still exists, the answer is, We support you.

But we can’t speak for our country, as President Reagan once did for us.


12 posted on 09/15/2013 9:56:50 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Nachum; First_Salute

“progressive” who cares and continues to practice

should be

“progressive” who cares *but* continues to practice


13 posted on 09/15/2013 10:01:02 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Nachum
Netanyahu: We can only rely on ourselves

I think (hope!) Netanyahu figured out long ago that the Ubama regime is not only not his friend, but is in fact his duplicitous (if incompetent) enemy.

14 posted on 09/15/2013 10:05:14 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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