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Assad's forces on attack after U.S.-Russia arms deal
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Posted on 09/15/2013 7:55:35 AM PDT by nuconvert

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We should have started bombing Assad's airfields and damaged as many military installations as possible in the first 24 hrs after the sarin attacks.
1 posted on 09/15/2013 7:55:35 AM PDT by nuconvert
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No, we have no right to attempt to topple the Assad regime.

The supposed revolution is a US-backed operation that is funded by Saudi and Qatari money so as to give the US government plausible deniability.

The US government’s actions in Syria are reprehensible.


2 posted on 09/15/2013 8:00:41 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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“The US government’s actions in Syria are reprehensible.”

Doing nothing while 100,000 people are killed, is reprehensible


3 posted on 09/15/2013 8:03:05 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: PieterCasparzen

I agree. We need to learn our lesson from Iraq. We have no dog in that fight. Even IF Assad used the sarin, it’s not for the USA to step into the middle of it. If the UN wants to do something let them. Our blood and treasure is worth more than that,imho


4 posted on 09/15/2013 8:04:46 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: nuconvert

We can’t fix it. The world body may wish to act but it’s not up to the USA to go it alone. There have been many more killed in multiple civil wars raging in African countries for years. Genocide, ethnic cleansing, torture. Is the USA supposed to bomb every country with a government that oppresses it’s people? It’s not our place.


5 posted on 09/15/2013 8:06:11 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: nuconvert

Obama started the war. Wake up.


6 posted on 09/15/2013 8:06:39 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: nuconvert

Were it not for the US and Saudi support for terrorist, there wouldn’t be 100,000 deaths. In act there wouldn’t be a war. We are the terrorists.


7 posted on 09/15/2013 8:08:12 AM PDT by gotribe (Vladimir Putin is MY President)
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To: nuconvert

how many of those 100000 were killed by the rebels?

How many of the rebels are from outside of Syria?

How many of the rebels are Al Quaida terrorists?

How many of the rebels will go to other countries later - maybe including US - to use their training for terrorist attacks?


8 posted on 09/15/2013 8:14:20 AM PDT by WilliamIII
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We know entire Christian villages are being destroyed but I would have to think that most of the 100,000 killed were Moose Limbs.

Why aren't Obama, Putin, Assad and Zawahiri considered Islamophobes?

9 posted on 09/15/2013 8:18:22 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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“We can’t fix it. “

We had a much better chance of doing so if we’d gotten involved and helped arm the opposition 2 yrs ago before the mb & alqaeda got involved.

Just as we had a chance to help overthro the regime in Iran in 2009 but Obama dithered and blew it.


10 posted on 09/15/2013 8:18:50 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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“How many of the rebels are from outside of Syria?
How many of the rebels are Al Quaida terrorists?”

In the very beginning?......close to none - that’s when we needed to send weapons & ammo.


11 posted on 09/15/2013 8:21:25 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: WilliamIII

Of course, the Iranians have had IRGC & hezbollah in Syria for many yrs


12 posted on 09/15/2013 8:24:21 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Do you really believe that Assad used those chemical weapons? He had nothing to gain.


13 posted on 09/15/2013 8:29:18 AM PDT by grania
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“Do you really believe that Assad used those chemical weapons? “

Yes I do. And I don’t think it was the 1st time.
Nothing to gain? He’d been fighting trying to get rid of the opposition in that area for months not making any headway. The hope was that chem.weapons would force them out. His forces are so enept, he’s still trying to get them out of there.


14 posted on 09/15/2013 8:35:36 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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Doing nothing while 100,000 people are killed, is reprehensible

No, it's not, because America was not being attacked. In fact, according to the myths put out by the American government, the supposed "rebels" are supposedly our enemies, the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qada. If that is true, there is no justification for supporting AQ or MB in any way.

For those who care to admit it, however, the truth is that MB was created by Western intelligence and continues to be a tool they employ to create revolutions, terror, etc., on behalf of new world order.

New world order efforts to spread their globalist thinking and control in the middle east are publicly bragged about by NWO NGOs on their websites and is a matter of public record. Any time you see "civil society", "women's rights", "democracy", etc., tax-exempt groups operating in the middle east, most everyone knows it is UK/US/UN big money/power people, which really means new world order. These campaigns have been all going on (democracy, promoting terrorism) since the "fall" of the Soviet Union, which caused the OSS/CIA (invented and run by new world order) to need budget justification.

New world order, even simply transnational banking, has always been in the espionage business, going back hundreds of years, as it is essential for people who arrange loans to governments.
15 posted on 09/15/2013 8:39:11 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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What will the saber-rattling psychopath in the White Hut and the Sociopath of State do now? No WMDs used in the recent volley? /moral outrage. Cool. Put the War Powers Act back in the drawer. Get a tee time after you shine Pooty Poot’s shoes. Congress can caddy. We all look good don’t we?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umrp1tIBY8Q

/distraction


16 posted on 09/15/2013 8:39:29 AM PDT by PGalt
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“We should have started bombing Assad’s airfields and damaged as many military installations as possible in the first 24 hrs after the sarin attacks. “

Assad didn’t do it:

UN accuses Syrian rebels of carrying out sarin gas attacks which had been blamed on Assad’s troops

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2320223/UN-accuses-Syrian-rebels-carrying-sarin-gas-attacks-blamed-Assads-troops.html

I hope that the Syrian forces prevail in this struggle against AlQaeda. We’ll all be better off if hey do.


17 posted on 09/15/2013 8:39:49 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

That article is from May. And it’s one UN woman who was not an investigator herself.


18 posted on 09/15/2013 8:42:46 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Oy


19 posted on 09/15/2013 8:44:38 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert
Why?
Why help Al Qaeda, especially when there is strong suspicion that it was the rebels who used the sarin. Cui Bono?
20 posted on 09/15/2013 8:54:55 AM PDT by expat2
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To: nuconvert

Here’s video of the FSA launching a Sarin gas attack:

http://www.military.com/video/operations-and-strategy/chemical-warfare/syrian-rebels-fire-chemical-weapons/2636625589001/


21 posted on 09/15/2013 8:58:11 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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And how does that discount Assad doing it? Or the intel from our military showing and hearing assad’s forces doing it?


22 posted on 09/15/2013 9:01:50 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Judge Jeanie let Odungo have it last night with both barrels..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1DvtZ9O5Bw


23 posted on 09/15/2013 9:02:33 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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Ha. I heard her.


24 posted on 09/15/2013 9:04:54 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Dealing with Middle East Dictators:
circa 33 A.D.

John 19:8-11

New American Standard Bible (NASB)

“8 Therefore when Pilate heard this statement, he was even more afraid; 9 and he entered into the [a]Praetorium again and *said to Jesus, “Where are You from?” But Jesus gave him no answer. 10 So Pilate *said to Him, “You do not speak to me? Do You not know that I have authority to release You, and I have authority to crucify You?” 11 Jesus answered,

“YOU WOULD HAVE NO AUTHORITY OVER ME, UNLESS IT IT HAD BEEN GIVEN YOU FROM ABOVE;

for this reason he who delivered Me to you has the greater sin.”


25 posted on 09/15/2013 9:23:39 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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To: nuconvert

Glad you’re in the minority. Very few Americans want us to get involved in another Middle East war — especially on the side of terrorists. That overwhelming opposition kept Obama from adopting your course of action


26 posted on 09/15/2013 9:24:53 AM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: nuconvert

Even two years ago, as you say, we had no reason to overthrow Assad. Assad is as good as we can get in that region. He represents 2-1/2 million relatively moderate Alawites, an offshoot of Shia Islam, allied with 2-1/2 million Christians, plus Druze and Ismailis. Assad has brought some of the 70% Sunni majority into the government and military. Collectively, they are holding back a tide of militant fundamentalist Sunnis in the form of the MB and AQ. The Saudi royal family and Qataris are financing these terrorists to replace Assad with a Sunni theocracy, all for their selfish petro-geo-political designs. They have once again looped the U.S. into using the CIA and the US military to executing their plan. The US, just as in Iraq, is being conned into expending our treasure and blood for the hegemony of Persian Gulf monarchies. Isn’t it time we stopped the forty-year tradition of allowing the Saudis to control U.S. foreign policy through their vast oil wealth? Frankly, you sound like a Saudi shill; no personal offense, that’s how it strikes me.


27 posted on 09/15/2013 9:31:07 AM PDT by Kennard
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I agree. Assad winning is the better option and status quo.

Unrest in Syria is a U.S. production stemming from our funneling of foreign terrorist groups into Syria through Libya. THIS IS THE REASON 0BAMA WAS SO DETERMINED TO BOMB LIBYA IN THE FIRST PLACE; the mission was to establish a staging ground for the funneling of weapons and terrorist groups into Syria!

What was the CIA doing in Benghazi? Probably rushing terrorists into Syria with our weapons. Our consulate and Annex was attacked by terrorists using weapons most likely SUPPLIED BY US, and this in part is what 0bama is covering up there. Doherty and Woods were probably killed with U.S. weapons.

Our bombing of Libya, CIA presence there and weapons and terrorists.. It probably all relates to 0bama's goal in Syria to oust Assad to enable the Arabs to get their pipeline built.

The chem weapons strike was undoubtedly NOT the work of Assad. It was a U.S. false flag op executed for the purpose of giving Kerry and 0bama the excuse they needed to bomb Syria! Wouldn't surprise me if OUR current insurgent gov't thugs gave the rebels the chem weapons to execute the plot. Yes they ARE this evil. Remember Sandy Hoax!! Notice how the U.N. stated they have NO interest in finding out WHO did the strike,?? Hint hint..

28 posted on 09/15/2013 9:33:02 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: nuconvert

why, so the beast who are rebels, many of them, can take over just like in Egypt? Both sides suck. I am seeing summary head chopping of enemy captives by the “free syrian army”. I don’t want our nation aligned with either side!


29 posted on 09/15/2013 9:34:09 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: nuconvert
And then what...genius?
30 posted on 09/15/2013 9:36:20 AM PDT by gr8eman (Ron Swanson for President!)
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To: Kennard

...but...but...all those inbred, goat ropers with no TP and camel-lust are no different than we are!


31 posted on 09/15/2013 9:48:03 AM PDT by gr8eman (Ron Swanson for President!)
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Yep...all that is true, but it makes me wonder...If you were trying to screw things up on purpose in the ME, you would never get as far as Obumble has supposedly trying to help the muzzie bros.


32 posted on 09/15/2013 9:51:58 AM PDT by gr8eman (Ron Swanson for President!)
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To: nuconvert

I see the “Lion and Sun” emblem on your home page, that is the Iranian flag under the Shah. Some groups opposing the current theocracy use a version of that flag, at their peril since it is banned. If you are part of or supporting true Iranian democracy (http://daneshjoo.org/article/publish/article_2376.shtml) then good luck to you and you deserve our active support. You are, however, deeply misguided on the subject of Syria. As an Iranian patriot, you might look at it this way: The John Brennan is playing the same role in Syria as Kermit Roosevelt did in 1953 Iran.


33 posted on 09/15/2013 10:08:14 AM PDT by Kennard
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I think it’s the reverse. It is a Saudi operation with the idiot US/McCain looking the war mongers.

Bin Laden was a similar Saudi only financing of the expulsion of the Soviets but in support of Talebans. The US was using different operators. Later on Bin Laden being a nationalist ventured to rebel against America and the Sauds themselves and allied with Soviet backed Muslim Brotherhood of Al Zwahiri -, who spent some times in Russia too... Irony.


34 posted on 09/15/2013 10:14:48 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: nuconvert

The US is giving weapons via the Saudi’s to the rebels. And the CIA is training rebel forces. So we are doing plenty.


35 posted on 09/15/2013 10:20:35 AM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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Russians involved in chem weapons always manage to get others involved. Now they look good thanks to Obama who fell for the trap, wittingly or not.

It’s atypical pimping operation: he catches her doing drugs (or into breaking a “peaceful” marriage), he dares her to denounce him raping her and her whole family.

Obama is the perfect idiot fag for that.


36 posted on 09/15/2013 10:24:31 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: sunrise_sunset

Had idiot fag liberals followed Bush’s lead in looking for chem weapons, this bull s#!+ would have never occurred. Now we are caught red handed with Saudi maggots and their terrorists trying to us stolen chem weapons.

Now we are virtually portrayed as providing US chem weapons to terrorists, or, more naughty, stealing Russian arsenal to hand it to terror groups.

What a fine mess... But liberals still think they and Zero are geniuses.


37 posted on 09/15/2013 10:28:15 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: nuconvert

The U.S., Qatar, and Saudi Arabia fund the opposition, which led to a good share of the 100,000 being killed. The best thing we can do to save lives IS doing nothing.


38 posted on 09/15/2013 10:33:52 AM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: lavaroise

The Saudi rulers are nominally puppets of the US, of course, they are actually puppets of new world order’s financial oligarchy.


39 posted on 09/15/2013 10:35:57 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: lavaroise

Iraq and Libya were about dollar hegemony.

Both leaders attempted to desert the dollar for oil sales, thus new world order saw them as needing to be eliminated.

Syria and Iran are planned next, for the same reasons.

Replacement of the Iranian government would bring the country into the realm of Western central banking.

US psyops are desperate to corral the conservative voting base back into the warmongering mindset so they can make use of the US military.

But too much information about new world order has gotten out and it is spreading, and new world order has executed too many revolutions and wars too quickly with public explanations bordering on nonsensical.


40 posted on 09/15/2013 10:44:41 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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Don’t know your size so I can’t make a hat for you. But I’ll get a sheet of do-it-yourself tin foil in the mail right away. You give the US gov’t way too much credit for being able to think up and to work a strategy


41 posted on 09/15/2013 12:00:11 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: nuconvert
Obama is the reprehensible responsible party for the attrocities in Syria, not Assad.

Obama should be removed from power , not Assad

42 posted on 09/15/2013 2:58:30 PM PDT by KTM rider
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To: PieterCasparzen

THe consciousness of money is strong, however the total slavery and colonization occures by tooling the individual the communist way. Making people overly conscious of money is bad, but unconscious of their own selves and money is worse. Of course, corruption and overt consciousness of money creates Bloomberg like deviancies of narcissistic totalitarianism leading to things fairly grotesques.


43 posted on 09/15/2013 3:05:17 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: nuconvert
Actually, Zer0 could've become Zer0-the-Hero if he'd grown a set, bypassed Syria and did a fullbore aerial blitz on Iran.

THEY are a threat to U. S. security.

44 posted on 09/15/2013 3:12:32 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (The 0baMao Experiment: Abject Failure)
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To: austinaero

Maybe it’s time we simply be honest and rent out our military. Make them paid mercenaries and raise their pay to what it should be for what they do. As it is now lots of people and corporations reap the benefits that are bought and paid for with our soldiers’ blood.


45 posted on 09/15/2013 9:53:13 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: nuconvert

Saw the Assad interview with Rose
Guy speaks English and comes off as more American and less moslem than Hussein Obamaa

Also willing to destroy Islamic terrorists funded by the Saudis, unlike the last 4 American POTUS ‘s


46 posted on 09/15/2013 9:58:40 PM PDT by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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As it is now lots of people and corporations reap the benefits that are bought and paid for with our soldiers’ blood.

Yep
47 posted on 09/15/2013 10:01:07 PM PDT by jy8z (When push comes disguised as nudge, I do not budge.)
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To: nuconvert

I don’t give a rat’s ass who killed who.

The founding fathers warned us against making treaties and getting into other country’s affairs.

The reason we in the mess we’re in is because this corrupt gov’t shits all over what’s left of our Constitution.


48 posted on 09/16/2013 5:30:59 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last. It might be.)
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“Also willing to destroy Islamic terrorists”

Some maybe....certainly not Hezbollah or anyone affiliated with the Iranian regime.


49 posted on 09/16/2013 7:23:33 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert
certainly not Hezbollah or anyone affiliated with the Iranian regime.

Those are the islamic terrorists that are not currently busy attacking the US and haven't done so in years.

50 posted on 09/16/2013 4:17:21 PM PDT by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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