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China builds fast to trigger drone race with America
The Sunday Times ^ | 15 September 2013 | Michael Sheridan, Far East Correspondent

Posted on 09/15/2013 8:23:27 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network

Edited on 09/15/2013 8:30:03 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

CHINA has sent a military drone on what is thought to be the first mission of its kind in a significant show of the country’s determination to match America and Japan in the technology of warfare.

Japanese F-15 jet fighters scrambled from a base in Okinawa last Monday to intercept the unmanned aerial vehicle, which turned back towards the Chinese coast.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Japan
KEYWORDS: china; drones; outsourcing
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1 posted on 09/15/2013 8:23:27 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Those evil ChiComs will be eating silver bullets for their last meal if they go up against Obama...


2 posted on 09/15/2013 8:36:10 AM PDT by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don’t need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Oh great! Barcalounger square-assing, joystick operating, dogfight jockeys rejoice all over the world. Now you can be a fighter ace too and get one of those SPECIAL medals like the Pentagon was pushing recently (haven’t heard much about that lately).

HARUMPFFFF!


3 posted on 09/15/2013 8:38:12 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of 0bama's America)
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To: Iron Munro

What has me concerned is not only are we paring off against the Chi-Coms as an eventual competitor globally (anyone who isn’t paying attention to that, isn’t paying attention to the fact the China has 5 TIMES American’s population) but that we are sending our manufacturing there.

So we are making sure China has the technology, with which to threaten us!

Stop sending US manufacturing to China.

Bring it back.


4 posted on 09/15/2013 8:40:57 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Iron Munro

more like the rump ranger


5 posted on 09/15/2013 8:41:38 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: shove_it

Look China is according to some calculations, now the world’s largest exporter.

America may have made some quick turn-around profit, while driving China headlong into the future.

But now China has caught up with, and is passing America.

Our defense budget is shrinking. Meanwhile we buy everything from there.

Bring back American manufacturing.

We need to build and keep American manufacturing.

Bring it back, and protect it.

What we are doing now, is suicide.


6 posted on 09/15/2013 8:56:40 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

>What we are doing now, is suicide.<

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Exporting manufacturing jobs and importing Islam — a double whammy.


7 posted on 09/15/2013 9:21:55 AM PDT by 353FMG ( I refuse to say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: 353FMG

Just like Eurabia...


8 posted on 09/15/2013 9:22:57 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: 353FMG

I think there is an incredible amount of denial in America right now, on both the right and the left.

China has approximately 5 times America’s population.

It is now exporting as much as American, and growing.

Now is when we should start paying attention. We need to bring back American manufacturing, and stop sending our manufacturing to other countries.

Especially we need to stop sending American manufacturing, to China.

China has caught up with America now.

China is passing America now.

I know old habits are easy to stick with, but we must change. We need to bring back our own manufacturing, and we need to bring it back now.

Stop making things elsewhere.

Bring back US manufacturing.


9 posted on 09/15/2013 9:43:32 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
"Bring back US manufacturing."

Do you mean we should start making our own TVs and DVD players? You already pointed out that China has five times our population, and thus a greater pool of available cheap labor. We cannot hope to compete in that area; we cannot profitably reorganize our labor to produce cheap consumer goods. I don't know what the answer is, but I am convinced that that isn't it.

10 posted on 09/15/2013 9:56:53 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Interesting. How long before drones will sabotage or disable drone making factories or other serious infrastructure on either side? Who takes the hit(s)? Who is responsible for the hit(s)? How will the hit(s) be verified? What are the intended/unintended consequences of the hit(s)? The race towards oblivion is on.


11 posted on 09/15/2013 10:04:11 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Stop sending US manufacturing to China.

Bring it back.

Why no, dear, the Bush family told us Fwee Twade with China would be GOOD for us.

Think of all those new customers we were told (see for example one of the last Movietone newsreels made in 1980 which made this claim...although it was made in the 90s too when we gave the ChiCom filth Most Favored Nation status).

What new customers? They might buy a few things from us and then copy them and sell them right back at a 50% discount.

Which of course lotsa people on this board think is just fine. Cuz, Remember, prosperity will moderate their behavior and bring on Democracy.

They got the first and will never have the second.

Meanwhile, the PLA will take the money and technology and build the weapons to rule the Pacific. And us.

As if they don't now. Who owns the bonds, you know?

12 posted on 09/15/2013 10:05:59 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Regulator

Bump.

Folks I know something of this topic.

We need to manufacture things ourselves.

Even China, protects their own markets.


13 posted on 09/15/2013 10:14:11 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: PGalt

I think that will simply drive manufacturing underground.

As in, literally.

Initially an issue, but underground not so much.


14 posted on 09/15/2013 10:23:54 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: PUGACHEV

I disagree.

We need to build, protect and keep a complete set of manufacturing plants.

For all things. This will need us to modify the way we protect American manufacturing, but we cannot continue to strip away our own manufacturing.

We need to bring back US manufacturing. For everything. I’m not saying we need to keep out imports, but what we’re doing now is frankly ... suicide.

We need to protect our own manufacturing, at least a bit.

There should be the thought process, behind a carefully thought-out process to make and keep our manufacturing plants.

But we need to start. Now.

America needs manufacturing.


15 posted on 09/15/2013 10:29:28 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Ya know, one day a drone is going to decapitate someone and then what?


16 posted on 09/15/2013 10:32:17 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I can see the future from a long way away, here. It is not the high tech drones that will matter most, but the bargain basement low tech drones - flying armadas of them.

Military history has many examples of the balance between quality and quantity in weaponry. If you do not have both, then you become vulnerable.

A single F-22 Raptor costs about $150 million. If the production costs of cheap, mass-produced drones could be kept under $50,000 each, you could buy THREE THOUSAND drones for the price of one F-22.

Keeping it simple, each drone could carry a common, 250 pound bomb. It would also need some shielding to protect its electronics, and some other things, but there would be no practical way to stop such an armada short of a nuclear detonation.


17 posted on 09/15/2013 11:33:25 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
I anticipate a lot of basement projects.
18 posted on 09/15/2013 11:56:36 AM PDT by Anton.Rutter
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

The problem with products from China is quality control. Everything with a “Made in China” label on it is crap - everything from the fasteners that hold military gear together to the flapper valves on toilet tanks are junk. Maybe it’s just the stuff the Chinese export is junk and the stuff they produce for internal consumption is fine, I don’t know but we are being stiffed big time.


19 posted on 09/15/2013 12:05:32 PM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of 0bama's America)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Cringing Negativism Network.


20 posted on 09/15/2013 12:05:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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