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URGENT CALL TO ACTION: Delay [& Defund] Obamacare [Updates: #28 and on]
Tea Party Express ^ | Sept 13, 2013 | Staff

Posted on 09/15/2013 10:05:51 AM PDT by Syncro

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URGENT CALL TO ACTION: Delay Obamacare
Sign the petition and demand your representatives pass the Graves Plan ASAP!

Georgia Rep. Tom Graves has introduced new legislation called the "Stability, Security and Fairness Resolution," which would fund the government for Fiscal Year 2014 while fully delaying and defunding Obamacare until 2015.  This is our best and last chance to defund Obamacare before it takes hold in three weeks.  

Below is the list of the 42 members of Congress that have signed on in support.  If your Congressional Representaive IS NOT on the list, CLICK HERE to tell them to support the Graves Plan.

Austin Scott (GA-8)

Lynn Westmoreland (GA-3)

Ron DeSantis (FL-6)

Bill Cassidy (LA-6)

Mark Meadows (NC-11)

Scott Perry (PA-4)

Bill Flores (TX-17)

Marlin Stutzman (IN-3)

Steve Chabot (OH-1)

Bill Huizenga (MI-2)

Marsha Blackburn (TN-7)

Steve Daines (MT)

Blake Farenthold (TX-27)

Matt Salmon (AZ-5)

Steve Palazzo (MS-4)

David Schweikert (AZ-6)

Mick Mulvaney (SC-5)

Steve Southerland (FL-2)

Doug Collins (GA-9)

Mo Brooks (AL-5)

Thomas Massie (KY-4)

Jeb Hensarling (TX-5)

Paul Broun (GA-10)

Tim Huelskamp (KS-1)

Jeff Duncan (SC-3)

Pete Olson (TX-22)

Tom Marino (PA-10)

Jim Bridenstine (OK-1)

Phil Gingrey (GA-11)

Tom Price (GA-6)

Jim Jordan (OH-4)

Randy Neugebauer (TX-19)

Trent Franks (AZ-8)

Jim Sensenbrenner (WI-5)

Randy Weber (TX-14)

Trey Gowdy (SC-4)

Joe Pitts (PA-16)

Raúl Labrador (ID-)

 

Joe Wilson (SC-2)

Reid Ribble (WI-8)

 

Luke Messer (IN-6)

Richard Hudson (NC-8)

 


If your Congressional Representative IS listed here, CLICK HERE to thank them and encourage them to stay strong in their opposition to Obamacare. 

There is no time to lose, please CLICK HERE and tell your representatives to pass the Graves Plan now before it is too late!

It is becoming increasing clear to all Americans that Obamacare is shaping up to be a disaster. Members of Congress have exempted themselves from participating, the Obama administration has delayed the implementation of the employer mandate, and he is now negotiating with the unions to ease their burden under the horrendous law. 

That leaves the burden of financially propping up Obamacare on the backs of the middle class and American families.  The same families that are in need of relief, not higher healthcare costs.  The individual mandate, requiring every individual to purchase health insurance or pay a fine, is an unprecedented expansion of federal power that the American people cannot afford and do not want.

It is time that President Obama and Congress shield the American people from the disastrous effects of Obamacare by voting to delay the implementation of the individual mandate. Congress, big business, and unions should not be the only ones who get out of the insurance mandate.


!!!CALL TO ACTION!!!

1. Sign the petition. Delay Obamacare's individual mandate

2.
Forward this email to all your friends and contacts who want to correct these abuses of power, and make sure they sign. 

Please take a moment to sign this petition. It should not take more than 90 seconds!  Just fill out the form and then PLEASE send it to EVERYONE you know to help us apply pressure.   Our strength is in numbers. 



Our sluggish economy and struggling middle-class can't afford the Obamacare individual mandate tax- sign the petition immediately. 
   

 

 

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Delay and Defund Obamacare!

3,309 Letters and Emails Sent So Far

Delay and Defund Obamacare!

 

We have an opportunity to stop Obamacare if Congressional Republicans stand on principle and vote to defund it! It is up to us to make sure our voices are heard loud and clear. Fill out the form below to send your representative a message:


"Co-sponsor the legislation that delays and defunds Obamacare now!"

 

Lets up the number!
1 posted on 09/15/2013 10:05:51 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: Syncro

No. Let’s not. Let the people see what they voted in.


2 posted on 09/15/2013 10:08:50 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Syncro

Delaying ObamaCare actually helps the Democrats, IMO


3 posted on 09/15/2013 10:12:54 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: autumnraine
No. Let’s not. Let the people see what they voted in.

We have to stop it, Autumn. If Congress allows Obamacare to be funded in the next C.R., we will have given it the Breath of Life. It will never die, from that day forward.

4 posted on 09/15/2013 10:15:13 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Syncro
https://vimeo.com/channels/384091/74340772


5 posted on 09/15/2013 10:20:37 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: All
See what others are saying about the Graves Plan
Sign the petition and demand your representatives delay Obamacare ASAP!

Georgia Rep. Tom Graves has introduced new legislation called the "Stability, Security and Fairness Resolution," which would fund the government for Fiscal Year 2014 while fully delaying and defunding Obamacare until 2015.  This is our best and last chance to defund Obamacare before it takes hold in three weeks.  

The Graves Plan is gaining momentum and the media is starting to take notice.  Read what others are saying:

National Review: But at this moment, the momentum seems to be with Graves and the push to use the CR for a fight to delay the health-care law ("Tom Graves introduces alternative to Cantor plan," 9/13/13)

ABC News: Hoping to avert a possible government shutdown at the end of the month, Rep. Tom Graves introduced a bill Thursday that he and dozens of his conservative colleagues believe could solve a looming fiscal fight facing Congress. ("Rep. Tom Graves Spending Bill Defunds Obamacare, And Irks Democrats," 9/12/13)

Roll Call: And, instead of relying on a legislative maneuver to force the Senate to vote on defunding Obamacare...it contains language that would actually zero out funding for the president's signature health care law. ("43 GOP Lawmakers Float Alternative CR That Defunds Obamacare," 9/12/13)

Wall Street Journal: One proposal, put forward by Rep. Tom Graves (R., Ga.), would fund the government for all of fiscal year 2014 but require more cuts and further delay implementation of the health-care law for a year. The measure quickly attracted backers, with 42 Republicans signing on as co-sponsors.
("Boehner Wants Joint Talks on Debt, Budget," 9/12/13


The Washington Times: GOP Rep. Tom Graves of Georgia said Friday that members of Congress are hearing grief from their constituents about the new health care law and are coalescing around his bill to defund the law, despite political hurdles in the days ahead. ("GOP Rep. Graves: Voters are demanding Obamacare defunding," 9/13/13)


Senator Mike Lee: "The House should pass this legislation immediately and send it to the Senate. The president has delayed the implementation of ObamaCare for big business, unions, and his special interest supporters. Congress should act to delay it for the rest of the country, as well." (Press release, 9/12/13)

6 posted on 09/15/2013 10:25:15 AM PDT by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: GeronL

Well, you have a point there.

Throwing the whole thing out is what is needed.

Let’s see where this leads though.


7 posted on 09/15/2013 10:26:57 AM PDT by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: Windflier

Right, it’s due to kick in the first of next month.

It’s gotta have the $’s blocked.


8 posted on 09/15/2013 10:27:57 AM PDT by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: Syncro

Screw “delay”. Kill the nightmare dead.


9 posted on 09/15/2013 10:28:04 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Syncro

From South Carolina’s Representatives:

Mark Sanford - Nope

Joe Wilson - Yep

Tom Rice - Nope

Jeff Duncan - Yep

Trey Gowdy - Yep

Mick Mulvaney - Yep

James Clyburn - NEVER!! He’s our token RAT.

Snail mail, email and phone call going to Sanford and Rice tomorrow. And, just for grins, to Jimmy Clyburn.

We don’t want to delay nobamacare, we want to provide it no funding. Big difference, I think.

Ted Cruz said it best: Let’s see if Obama is willing to shut down the government to fund Obamacare.


10 posted on 09/15/2013 10:31:28 AM PDT by upchuck (The nobama regime: a string of omnishambles that stretches, seemingly, to infinity.)
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To: Syncro

I’ve asked my congressman (he wasn’t listed) to support the Graves resolution.


11 posted on 09/15/2013 10:38:29 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: Lancey Howard
Good idea!

Get out there and convince congress.

Impeach Obama.

Call him and his minions out on their crimes and high treason.

Fast and furious.

Benghazi.

Weapons to Islamic terrorists.

Lies, lies and more lies equals sedition and treason.

12 posted on 09/15/2013 10:45:25 AM PDT by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: upchuck
I agree, thanks for being an activist!

Ted Cruz said it best: Let’s see if Obama is willing to shut down the government to fund Obamacare.
Yes, the ball is in Obama's court but he will double dribble or Jarrett will have his head.

The conservatives need to drill it into the American people that it is Obama and the dems--by continuing to push the unconstitutional ObamaCare--that will be shutting down government, not the republicans and certainly not the Conservatives.

Of course, the GOPe is a-skerred to fight for what is right.

13 posted on 09/15/2013 10:52:00 AM PDT by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: OldNavyVet

Great, keep up the good work.


14 posted on 09/15/2013 10:52:49 AM PDT by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: detective; Susquehanna Patriot; All
From a post on another thread:
Obamacare was always meant to fail as a health care program. The only people who don't understand this are the useful idiots.

The purpose of Obamacare was to destroy the greatest health care system in the world and pave the way for a single payer system that is controlled by the government. The purpose is to separate citizens from their physicians and health care providers and create a situation where all the revenue, all the power and all the decisions are in the hands of government bureaucrats who have no responsibility to provide adequate health care. The goal is to force taxpayers to pay the government for health care they may never receive and force them to beg political operatives to receive the health care for themselves and their families that they have already paid for.

Even better followup in Post #35

Thanks for those posts, detective and Susquehanna Patriot

15 posted on 09/15/2013 12:20:57 PM PDT by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: autumnraine

Agree. Make them implement it. There will be a big upset in14. The Tea Party is being conned.


16 posted on 09/15/2013 12:33:44 PM PDT by amihow
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To: autumnraine

Agree. Make them implement it. There will be a big upset in14. The Tea Party is being conned.


17 posted on 09/15/2013 12:34:23 PM PDT by amihow
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To: Syncro

Signed.


18 posted on 09/15/2013 12:34:29 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: All
From the AP yesterday (This is from FLETCHER, N.C. (AP) via Yahoo):

GOP must navigate growing divide with tea party

— Tea party activists, once unquestioned as a benefit to the Republican Party for supplying it with votes and energy, are now criticizing GOP leaders at seemingly every turn.

A recent Pew Research Center survey found that more than 7 in 10 self-identified "tea party Republicans" disapprove of the job performance of GOP congressional leaders.

*snip*

McConnell, House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, and other GOP congressional leaders endorse the idea to "defund Obamacare," but some of them have also tried to convince their core supporters that it won't happen

*snip

But that doesn't satisfy the tea party faithful, who say too many Republicans have welcomed their support in elections only to ignore their concerns in office.

Amy Kremer, the leader of the California-based Tea Party Express, spent much of the congressional summer break on a national tour intended to pressure Republicans into backing the defunding movement.

"My message to Speaker Boehner and (House Majority Leader) Eric Cantor and Senator McConnell is simple: If you're not willing to fight for this, what are you willing to fight for?" she said at a recent stop in western North Carolina.

Her group has helped elected conservative favorites like Sens. Rand Paul of Kentucky, Marco Rubio of Florida and Ted Cruz of Texas, who have driven the campaign for cutting off money for Obama's law.

*snip*

...the Heritage Foundation,...run by former Republican Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina, has devoted more than $500,000 to a campaign against several Republicans who've resisted the push.

*snip*

At one stop in the state, Kremer called out Ellmers. "I haven't given up on the congresswoman," she said.

*snip*

"Mitch McConnell is the key to stopping Obamacare," ...

*snip*

...Bozell said that argument amounts to "trying to have it both ways."

"They'll vote to repeal it," he said. "But they won't stand up and do everything they can to stop it."

This is a much longer article, click the link to read the rest if you wish to.
19 posted on 09/15/2013 12:49:31 PM PDT by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: amihow

Yeah, there will be a big upset in ‘14

Benghazi.

Oops, that’s off the radar.

Fast and Furious, oops that’s off the radar.

Bomb Syria because Syria is bombing Syria.

Oops, that was taken from the whimp in chief by Putin.

Now you want the Tea Party Movement to sit back and let another one go off the radar?

It’s gonna take a lot more than ignoring Obamacare to get a victory in ‘14.

There will be twice as many millions of illegal votes that will have to be countered next year as were needed last time.

What battles do you suggest be fought?

Post your answer twice if you wish to.


20 posted on 09/15/2013 1:20:04 PM PDT by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: 2111USMC

Thanks 2111USMC!


21 posted on 09/15/2013 1:55:18 PM PDT by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: Syncro

David Kutlow in his nationally sydicated broadcasts has never supported Obamacare and does call it Obamacare.

However, Kutlow railed against this de-funding effort in his national broadcast Saturday 9/14/13. Kutlow claims that Obamacare wouldn’t be affected but that funding for vets, the military, and other what he claims is discrestionary spending would also be affected. But that “Zerocare” (my attribution) would sail through.

While He also claims friendship with Cruz he impled and one of his “guests” accused Cruz, and others (Lee, whom was not mentioned)of having full knowledge of that “fact” and are using the issue for purely political purposes and fund raising.

OK, Who is right ? You have guys like Levin a lawyer who served in an executive position in the Reagan cabinet and a constitutional scholar, Limbaugh, who’s been around for quite a while, as notable spokes men for the idea and others. Pushing this. And well meanming guys like Kutlow siding the the GOPES.


22 posted on 09/15/2013 2:07:57 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Syncro

Sorry for double post. Difference is people will be affected by Obama care and it will light up th radar.


23 posted on 09/15/2013 2:16:00 PM PDT by amihow
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To: Syncro

BTTT!


24 posted on 09/15/2013 2:19:36 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: amihow

That’s the plan.

People catch on when it is too late.

It has to be fought now.

Once it gets in it will be like a tar baby.


25 posted on 09/15/2013 2:21:56 PM PDT by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: Syncro

But the pols will just take it up next year and then fund it. And the people won’t be saavy because they haven’t gotten hurt by it.

And the dems will win more seats in the 14 election.

I think they’re doing what they always do. Playing us for fools.


26 posted on 09/15/2013 3:52:49 PM PDT by amihow
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To: amihow
Playing us for fools.

Speak for yourself.

And if you believe what you are saying, why not start a thread "DON'T DEFUND OBAMACARE, DANGER THEY ARE PLAYING US FOR FOOLS"

In January the subsidies kick in for millions of newly insured under Obamacare. The money for the subsidies comes from the 40 BILLION that Obama robbed for medicare, insurance for SS recipients who are just useless eaters to leftists.

The pols have to have their feet put to the fire, because the Congress has been opted out of Obamacare, and can continue to be covered by the coverage that they have now, none of us can get this.

We need to defund Obamacare NOW.

There are millions of people that are already hurt by it and they are waking up.

Insurance costs have skyrocketed in the last couple of years, so waiting another year and expecting it to be defunded is not an option.

27 posted on 09/16/2013 12:45:22 PM PDT by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: All
Update, 17 new co-sponsors

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17 New Co-Sponsors!

We are making great progress! Since Friday, 17 representatives have added their names to Rep. Graves' bill that will stop Obamacare in its tracks! However, we still need to keep pushing the remaining House members to follow in the footsteps of these conservative leaders. This is our last chance to defund Obamacare before it takes hold in three weeks.    

Please check the list below. If you DO NOT see your Representative's name,
CLICK HERE to tell them to support the Graves Plan.

17 New Co-Sponsors

 Bob Gibbs (OH-7)  Larry Bucshon (IN-8)  Scott Garrett (NJ-5)
 Brad Wenstrup (OH-2)  Lee Terry (NE-2)  Ted Poe (TX-2)
 Candice Miller (MI-10)  Michael McCaul (TX-10)  Tom Cotton (AR-4)
 Chris Stewart (UT-2)  Mike Pompeo (KS-4)  Tom Reed (NY-23)
 Cynthia Lummis (WY)  Paul Gosar (AZ-4)  Trey Radel (FL-19)
 Dennis Ross (FL-15)  Roger Williams (TX-25)  
  

Original 42 Co-Sponsors

Austin Scott (GA-8) Luke Messer (IN-6) Reid Ribble (WI-8)
Bill Cassidy (LA-6) Lynn Westmoreland (GA-3) Richard Hudson (NC-8)
Bill Flores (TX-17) Mark Meadows (NC-11) Ron DeSantis (FL-6)
Bill Huizenga (MI-2) Marlin Stutzman (IN-3) Scott Perry (PA-4)
Blake Farenthold (TX-27) Marsha Blackburn (TN-7) Steve Chabot (OH-1)
David Schweikert (AZ-6) Matt Salmon (AZ-5) Steve Daines (MT)
Doug Collins (GA-9) Mick Mulvaney (SC-5) Steve Palazzo (MS-4)
Jeb Hensarling (TX-5) Mo Brooks (AL-5) Steve Southerland (FL-2)
Jeff Duncan (SC-3) Paul Broun (GA-10) Thomas Massie (KY-4)
Jim Bridenstine (OK-1) Pete Olson (TX-22) Tim Huelskamp (KS-1)
Jim Jordan (OH-4) Phil Gingrey (GA-11) Tom Marino (PA-10)
Jim Sensenbrenner (WI-5) Randy Neugebauer (TX-19) Tom Price (GA-6)
Joe Pitts (PA-16) Randy Weber (TX-14) Trent Franks (AZ-8)
Joe Wilson (SC-2) Raúl Labrador (ID-1) Trey Gowdy (SC-4)

If your Congressional Representative IS listed here, CLICK HERE to thank them and encourage them to stay strong in their opposition to Obamacare. 

There is no time to lose, please CLICK HERE and tell your representatives to pass the Graves Plan now before it is too late!
 

!!!CALL TO ACTION!!!

1. Sign the petition. Delay Obamacare's individual mandate

2.
Forward this email to all your friends and contacts who want to correct these abuses of power, and make sure they sign. 

Please take a moment to sign this petition. It should not take more than 90 seconds!  Just fill out the form and then PLEASE send it to EVERYONE you know to help us apply pressure.   Our strength is in numbers. 



Our sluggish economy and struggling middle-class can't afford the Obamacare individual mandate tax- sign the petition immediately. 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
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28 posted on 09/16/2013 8:49:29 PM PDT by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: Syncro

You have a good point in spite of your rude manner. It is worth a discussion.


29 posted on 09/17/2013 8:14:09 AM PDT by amihow
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To: amihow; All
Just reacting to your broadbrush comment that we are all fools. Being played for fools, actual quote.

Throwing it back to you.

I am glad to see you are coming around though.

But like I said, if you really think it is counter productive to defund Obama care at this time, start a thread to discuss your point.

Here's a thread of interest:

Now this may be a case of Buffett attempting to "play us for fools" and there are posters on both sides of the issue on that thread.

Another thread of interest:

Now take a look at this one:
Check out the part I put in bold.

In January the government will be putting them on Obamacare, and of course it will be highly subsidized by our taxes, probably in the billions of dollars.

30 posted on 09/17/2013 10:05:46 AM PDT by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: everyone; Jim Robinson
More:


31 posted on 09/17/2013 10:25:40 AM PDT by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: Syncro

Signed. Letter to Nunez sent. Thanks!


32 posted on 09/17/2013 10:43:05 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: amihow

And another GOP-e apologist chimes in.

Defund ObamaCommieCare!!

Kill it before nit kills America!!


33 posted on 09/17/2013 10:45:14 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: amihow

Thanks all for those truly substantive contributions. The others we can ignore. I worry about the ability of both entrenched dems and reps to put it over on the people.

The more we share thoughts about the issues respectfully, the better chance we have to elect true populists to public office. If we do not build unity our country is gone.


34 posted on 09/17/2013 1:07:37 PM PDT by amihow
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To: Syncro

I am with you on Cruz so far. Buffet is slimy.


35 posted on 09/17/2013 1:10:27 PM PDT by amihow
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To: amihow

Cool and oh yeah on Buffet.


36 posted on 09/17/2013 2:10:05 PM PDT by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: Jim Robinson
Thanks for sending the letter out!

And, oh yeah I'm trying to school the dissenter...

37 posted on 09/17/2013 2:15:17 PM PDT by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: Jim Robinson

I don’t quite understand what you are saying. Could you please phrase it differently?


38 posted on 09/17/2013 3:03:02 PM PDT by amihow
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To: Windflier

Agree. We must kill this hideous hydra, dispatch it now before it escapes and gets new life. Republicans would be strengthened if they could come up a reasonable PHASED alternative to reduce health care costs. Show the people you have a viable plan to save them money and improve care.

The Republicans need to have a positive counterweight in this fight.


39 posted on 09/17/2013 3:33:59 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: amihow

Defund ObamaCommieCare!!

Kill it before it kills America!!

The tea party rebellion is on against the dims AND GOP-e!!

Don’t tread on me!!


40 posted on 09/17/2013 3:35:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: autumnraine

John Boehner, is that you?


41 posted on 09/17/2013 3:41:13 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Jim Robinson

I understand that completely, as am I. I am not a dem or a rep. I am an independent, true conservative. That said, I usually have to vote rep as the lesser of two evils.

The problem I have about the Tea Party is that the new activists are not experienced and if they let in experienced x reps, they might get conned.

We need to re-articulate conservative principles and gain more voters for true conservatives. We failed in 08 and12. Can’t lose again.


42 posted on 09/17/2013 4:03:25 PM PDT by amihow
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To: amihow

We are sick and tired of voting the lesser evil. I know I am not alone. It is that lesser evil that has discouraged conservatives from the process.

I have come to the point where I would rather lose with the right guy than win with the wrong guy


43 posted on 09/17/2013 4:06:24 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Syncro

I hope those of you who are working toward delaying/defunding Obamacare can at least spare a prayer for those of us who have been informed we are losing our coverage on Dec. 31st and would be left stranded. Personally, I think the defund should have occurred three years ago. At this point a defund without some alternate arrangement is unlikely to go over well with a bunch of folks.


44 posted on 09/17/2013 4:14:44 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: GeronL

We need to keep talking conservatism. I talk to strangers. You don’t like X? Then be dure to vote for conservatives who will implement the policies which made this country great.

I am amazed st who seem to be getting the message.


45 posted on 09/17/2013 6:49:59 PM PDT by amihow
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To: amihow

That is good to hear


46 posted on 09/17/2013 6:50:32 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: steve86
Millions have already lost their healthcare because of this monstrosity (cut back to 29 hrs a week, so loss of income also) and costs have skyrocketed.

This "affordable care act" is only affordable to the elite and the millions that will have it paid for by the government.

Weather or not it is defunded won't change the fact that people in your situation will not be able to afford even Obamacare IMO.

Actually it should have never passed, and should have been repealed right after it passed.

The republicans have authored several bills to have a better system, but Reid will not even let the senate vote on them.

He sits on his throne and tells the house that if they don't send him a bill with everything he (Reid) wants, he will see that it does not go through.

Then he says the republicans are shutting down the government!

And the media parrots his words and the republicans get the vapors and take the blame.

It's all out of whack, I hope everything works out in the end for you and the others that have been told your healthcare will end in Jan.

47 posted on 09/17/2013 8:41:17 PM PDT by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: All
From fauquierfreecitizen.com

Nothing affordable about Obamacare

I wish they had read the “Affordable Care Act” because they would have seen it was going to create a situation where over ninety percent of all jobs currently being created are part-time jobs.

Obamacare will continue to see the number of full-time jobs decline and health care costs increase through things like these:

This truly is Obama’s Unaffordable Care Act – not only unaffordable to individuals, but also very unaffordable to businesses. It is especially unaffordable in an economy already teetering on the brink of disaster because of our unfettered spending and debt. It’s time to scrap this mess and put together something that will really work.

 


48 posted on 09/18/2013 9:19:12 AM PDT by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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Fox News poll: 68 percent concerned about their health care under new law
FoxNews.com ^ | September 17, 2013 | Dana Blanton

Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2013 12:05:22 PM by RedMDer

Nearly 7 out of 10 voters are concerned about their personal health care under the Affordable Care Act and a majority wants to take the health care system back to 2009, according to the latest Fox News national poll.

The poll, released Tuesday, finds that 68 percent of voters are concerned about their health care under the new system. That includes 43 percent “very” concerned and another 25 percent “somewhat” concerned.

The number feeling concerned is more than twice that of those who are unworried (31 percent).

Even a 56-percent majority of Democrats feels concerned (31 percent “very” concerned). By comparison, 72 percent of independents and 77 percent of Republicans feel that way.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ..

Also of interest:
Obama’s group attacks GOP ‘government shutdown’ as 70 Repubs sponsor bill to avoid shutdown
Daily Caller ^ | Sept 17, 2013 | By Patrick Howley

Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2013 8:09:22 PM by Jim Robinson

Republican Rep. Tom Graves’ budget plan to defund Obamacare while avoiding a government shutdown is rapidly gaining House support, but President Obama’s advocacy group Organizing for Action (OFA) is still using claims that Republicans want a shutdown in its fundraising pitch.

Graves’ Stability, Security, and Fairness Resolution now has 70 House cosponsors after 11 more lawmakers cosponsored Tuesday. The continuing resolution proposal for fiscal year 2014 actually avoids a government shutdown and funds all facets of the federal government, with the exception of spending related to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. Graves introduced the plan last Thursday.

“There has never, ever, ever been any proposal from Ted Cruz or Mike Lee to shut down the functions of government. That was just the media,” said Brian Phillips, communications director for Sen. Mike Lee, who is partnering with Sen. Cruz on the highly publicized “Defund Obamacare” campaign.

The “Defund Obamacare” movement has been routinely criticized by Democrats and the mainstream media for opening up the possibility of a government shutdown if Senate Democrats don’t get on board. OFA, which was assembled from the remnants of Obama’s 2012 campaign to push for the president’s second-term agenda, continues to raise money off that premise.

“There are Republicans in the House so dead set on stopping Obamacare that they’re willing to sabotage our economy to do it. Really. Instead of passing a budget by the September 30th deadline, they’re threatening to shut down the government if Obamacare isn’t defunded,” OFA chairman and Obama’s 2012 campaign manager Jim Messina claimed in a Tuesday email to supporters introducing a new TV ad and asking for money.

“It’s time for them to cut the crap and get serious…Their latest plan is dangerous — we know that. They know it, too,” Messina wrote.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...

Poll: Obamacare opposition climbs
Politico ^ | 9/11/13 5:44 PM EDT | JAMES ARKIN

Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:17:04 PM by RedMDer

More than half of Americans oppose most or all of the proposals in Obamacare, a sharp increase in opposition to the healthcare law from earlier this year, according to a new poll Wednesday.

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Asked about a potential government shutdown that could follow this strategy, 51 percent of Americans said they would blame the GOP while just 33 percent said they would blame Obama.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ..

Obama Dares Republicans to Defy Tea Party on Obamacare, Shutdown Deal
National Journal (excerpt - click for article) ^ | Sept 16, 2013 | By Patrick Reis

Posted on Monday, September 16, 2013 11:26:04 AM by Jim Robinson

President Obama took a swipe at the Hard Right on Monday, accusing tea-party-aligned House Republicans of gambling with the nation's economy by threatening to shut down the government unless Obamacare is defunded.

In a sprawling economic speech, Obama called on Congress to avert a government shutdown by passing a budget, and he insisted he would brook no wrangling over a raise in the debt ceiling. Obama said such a shutdown, or even the possibility of default, would damage the still-fragile economic recovery.

Specifically, the president went after Republicans who say they won't vote for any budget deal that does not nullify the Affordable Care Act. "I cannot remember a time when one faction of one party promises economic chaos if it can't get 100 percent of what it wants," Obama said. "That's never happened before, and that's what happening right now."

Obama appealed to the rest of the Republican Party for help in brokering a budget compromise, challenging members to break with those calling for defunding Obamacare.

"Are some of these folks so beholden to one extreme wing of their party that they're willing to tank our whole economy?" he said. "Are they willing to hurt people?"


49 posted on 09/18/2013 9:29:41 AM PDT by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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U.S. poverty rate flat, 48 million people uninsured: Census
Reuters ^ | September 17, 2013 | by Caroline Humer and Susan Heavey

Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:12:03 AM by Oldeconomybuyer

The number of Americans living in poverty remained steady last year at 15 percent after rising for several years in the wake of the recession, while the number of people without health insurance fell slightly to 48 million, U.S. government data released on Tuesday showed.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...

50 posted on 09/18/2013 9:32:11 AM PDT by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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