Posted on 09/15/2013 10:05:51 AM PDT by Syncro
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Lets up the number!Delay and Defund Obamacare!
3,309 Letters and Emails Sent So Far
We have an opportunity to stop Obamacare if Congressional Republicans stand on principle and vote to defund it! It is up to us to make sure our voices are heard loud and clear. Fill out the form below to send your representative a message:
"Co-sponsor the legislation that delays and defunds Obamacare now!"
No. Let’s not. Let the people see what they voted in.
Delaying ObamaCare actually helps the Democrats, IMO
We have to stop it, Autumn. If Congress allows Obamacare to be funded in the next C.R., we will have given it the Breath of Life. It will never die, from that day forward.
Well, you have a point there.
Throwing the whole thing out is what is needed.
Let’s see where this leads though.
Right, it’s due to kick in the first of next month.
It’s gotta have the $’s blocked.
Screw “delay”. Kill the nightmare dead.
From South Carolina’s Representatives:
Mark Sanford - Nope
Joe Wilson - Yep
Tom Rice - Nope
Jeff Duncan - Yep
Trey Gowdy - Yep
Mick Mulvaney - Yep
James Clyburn - NEVER!! He’s our token RAT.
Snail mail, email and phone call going to Sanford and Rice tomorrow. And, just for grins, to Jimmy Clyburn.
We don’t want to delay nobamacare, we want to provide it no funding. Big difference, I think.
Ted Cruz said it best: Lets see if Obama is willing to shut down the government to fund Obamacare.
I’ve asked my congressman (he wasn’t listed) to support the Graves resolution.
Get out there and convince congress.
Impeach Obama.
Call him and his minions out on their crimes and high treason.
Fast and furious.
Benghazi.
Weapons to Islamic terrorists.
Lies, lies and more lies equals sedition and treason.
Ted Cruz said it best: Lets see if Obama is willing to shut down the government to fund Obamacare.Yes, the ball is in Obama's court but he will double dribble or Jarrett will have his head.
The conservatives need to drill it into the American people that it is Obama and the dems--by continuing to push the unconstitutional ObamaCare--that will be shutting down government, not the republicans and certainly not the Conservatives.
Of course, the GOPe is a-skerred to fight for what is right.
Great, keep up the good work.
Even better followup in Post #35Obamacare was always meant to fail as a health care program. The only people who don't understand this are the useful idiots.The purpose of Obamacare was to destroy the greatest health care system in the world and pave the way for a single payer system that is controlled by the government. The purpose is to separate citizens from their physicians and health care providers and create a situation where all the revenue, all the power and all the decisions are in the hands of government bureaucrats who have no responsibility to provide adequate health care. The goal is to force taxpayers to pay the government for health care they may never receive and force them to beg political operatives to receive the health care for themselves and their families that they have already paid for.
Thanks for those posts, detective and Susquehanna Patriot
Agree. Make them implement it. There will be a big upset in14. The Tea Party is being conned.
Agree. Make them implement it. There will be a big upset in14. The Tea Party is being conned.
Signed.
This is a much longer article, click the link to read the rest if you wish to.GOP must navigate growing divide with tea party
Tea party activists, once unquestioned as a benefit to the Republican Party for supplying it with votes and energy, are now criticizing GOP leaders at seemingly every turn.
A recent Pew Research Center survey found that more than 7 in 10 self-identified "tea party Republicans" disapprove of the job performance of GOP congressional leaders.
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McConnell, House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, and other GOP congressional leaders endorse the idea to "defund Obamacare," but some of them have also tried to convince their core supporters that it won't happen
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But that doesn't satisfy the tea party faithful, who say too many Republicans have welcomed their support in elections only to ignore their concerns in office.
Amy Kremer, the leader of the California-based Tea Party Express, spent much of the congressional summer break on a national tour intended to pressure Republicans into backing the defunding movement.
"My message to Speaker Boehner and (House Majority Leader) Eric Cantor and Senator McConnell is simple: If you're not willing to fight for this, what are you willing to fight for?" she said at a recent stop in western North Carolina.
Her group has helped elected conservative favorites like Sens. Rand Paul of Kentucky, Marco Rubio of Florida and Ted Cruz of Texas, who have driven the campaign for cutting off money for Obama's law.
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...the Heritage Foundation,...run by former Republican Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina, has devoted more than $500,000 to a campaign against several Republicans who've resisted the push.
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At one stop in the state, Kremer called out Ellmers. "I haven't given up on the congresswoman," she said.
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"Mitch McConnell is the key to stopping Obamacare," ...
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...Bozell said that argument amounts to "trying to have it both ways."
"They'll vote to repeal it," he said. "But they won't stand up and do everything they can to stop it."
Yeah, there will be a big upset in ‘14
Benghazi.
Oops, that’s off the radar.
Fast and Furious, oops that’s off the radar.
Bomb Syria because Syria is bombing Syria.
Oops, that was taken from the whimp in chief by Putin.
Now you want the Tea Party Movement to sit back and let another one go off the radar?
It’s gonna take a lot more than ignoring Obamacare to get a victory in ‘14.
There will be twice as many millions of illegal votes that will have to be countered next year as were needed last time.
What battles do you suggest be fought?
Post your answer twice if you wish to.
Thanks 2111USMC!
David Kutlow in his nationally sydicated broadcasts has never supported Obamacare and does call it Obamacare.
However, Kutlow railed against this de-funding effort in his national broadcast Saturday 9/14/13. Kutlow claims that Obamacare wouldn’t be affected but that funding for vets, the military, and other what he claims is discrestionary spending would also be affected. But that “Zerocare” (my attribution) would sail through.
While He also claims friendship with Cruz he impled and one of his “guests” accused Cruz, and others (Lee, whom was not mentioned)of having full knowledge of that “fact” and are using the issue for purely political purposes and fund raising.
OK, Who is right ? You have guys like Levin a lawyer who served in an executive position in the Reagan cabinet and a constitutional scholar, Limbaugh, who’s been around for quite a while, as notable spokes men for the idea and others. Pushing this. And well meanming guys like Kutlow siding the the GOPES.
Sorry for double post. Difference is people will be affected by Obama care and it will light up th radar.
BTTT!
That’s the plan.
People catch on when it is too late.
It has to be fought now.
Once it gets in it will be like a tar baby.
But the pols will just take it up next year and then fund it. And the people won’t be saavy because they haven’t gotten hurt by it.
And the dems will win more seats in the 14 election.
I think they’re doing what they always do. Playing us for fools.
Speak for yourself.
And if you believe what you are saying, why not start a thread "DON'T DEFUND OBAMACARE, DANGER THEY ARE PLAYING US FOR FOOLS"
In January the subsidies kick in for millions of newly insured under Obamacare. The money for the subsidies comes from the 40 BILLION that Obama robbed for medicare, insurance for SS recipients who are just useless eaters to leftists.
The pols have to have their feet put to the fire, because the Congress has been opted out of Obamacare, and can continue to be covered by the coverage that they have now, none of us can get this.
We need to defund Obamacare NOW.
There are millions of people that are already hurt by it and they are waking up.
Insurance costs have skyrocketed in the last couple of years, so waiting another year and expecting it to be defunded is not an option.
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17 New Co-Sponsors!We are making great progress! Since Friday, 17 representatives have added their names to Rep. Graves' bill that will stop Obamacare in its tracks! However, we still need to keep pushing the remaining House members to follow in the footsteps of these conservative leaders. This is our last chance to defund Obamacare before it takes hold in three weeks.
Please check the list below. If you DO NOT see your Representative's name,
CLICK HERE to tell them to support the Graves Plan.
17 New Co-Sponsors
Bob Gibbs (OH-7) Larry Bucshon (IN-8) Scott Garrett (NJ-5) Brad Wenstrup (OH-2) Lee Terry (NE-2) Ted Poe (TX-2) Candice Miller (MI-10) Michael McCaul (TX-10) Tom Cotton (AR-4) Chris Stewart (UT-2) Mike Pompeo (KS-4) Tom Reed (NY-23) Cynthia Lummis (WY) Paul Gosar (AZ-4) Trey Radel (FL-19) Dennis Ross (FL-15) Roger Williams (TX-25)
Original 42 Co-SponsorsIf your Congressional Representative IS listed here, CLICK HERE to thank them and encourage them to stay strong in their opposition to Obamacare.
Austin Scott (GA-8) Luke Messer (IN-6) Reid Ribble (WI-8) Bill Cassidy (LA-6) Lynn Westmoreland (GA-3) Richard Hudson (NC-8) Bill Flores (TX-17) Mark Meadows (NC-11) Ron DeSantis (FL-6) Bill Huizenga (MI-2) Marlin Stutzman (IN-3) Scott Perry (PA-4) Blake Farenthold (TX-27) Marsha Blackburn (TN-7) Steve Chabot (OH-1) David Schweikert (AZ-6) Matt Salmon (AZ-5) Steve Daines (MT) Doug Collins (GA-9) Mick Mulvaney (SC-5) Steve Palazzo (MS-4) Jeb Hensarling (TX-5) Mo Brooks (AL-5) Steve Southerland (FL-2) Jeff Duncan (SC-3) Paul Broun (GA-10) Thomas Massie (KY-4) Jim Bridenstine (OK-1) Pete Olson (TX-22) Tim Huelskamp (KS-1) Jim Jordan (OH-4) Phil Gingrey (GA-11) Tom Marino (PA-10) Jim Sensenbrenner (WI-5) Randy Neugebauer (TX-19) Tom Price (GA-6) Joe Pitts (PA-16) Randy Weber (TX-14) Trent Franks (AZ-8) Joe Wilson (SC-2) Raúl Labrador (ID-1) Trey Gowdy (SC-4)
There is no time to lose, please CLICK HERE and tell your representatives to pass the Graves Plan now before it is too late!
!!!CALL TO ACTION!!!
1. Sign the petition. Delay Obamacare's individual mandate
2. Forward this email to all your friends and contacts who want to correct these abuses of power, and make sure they sign.
Please take a moment to sign this petition. It should not take more than 90 seconds! Just fill out the form and then PLEASE send it to EVERYONE you know to help us apply pressure. Our strength is in numbers.
Our sluggish economy and struggling middle-class can't afford the Obamacare individual mandate tax- sign the petition immediately.
You have a good point in spite of your rude manner. It is worth a discussion.
Throwing it back to you.
I am glad to see you are coming around though.
But like I said, if you really think it is counter productive to defund Obama care at this time, start a thread to discuss your point.
Here's a thread of interest:
Now this may be a case of Buffett attempting to "play us for fools" and there are posters on both sides of the issue on that thread.
Warren Buffett: Scrap Obamacare and Start Over
Warren Buffett: Scrap Obamacare and Start Over Jeffrey H. Anderson September 17, 2013 10:11 AM You know things are bad for President Obama when even Warren Buffett has soured on Obamacare and says that "we need something else." Money Morning writes: "Healthcare costs in the United States are like a tapeworm eating at our economic body. "Those words come from famed investor Warren Buffett, who said he would scrap Obamacare and start all over. "'We have a health system that, in terms of costs, is really out of control,' he added. 'And if you take this line and you project...
Another thread of interest:
Now take a look at this one:
Ted Cruz Is Making Life Miserable For House Republicans
For the last few weeks, House Speaker John Boehner has been trying to find a way to convince his caucus to vote for a bill that keeps the government open after Sept. 30 without picking a fight over Obamacare. But a minority of his caucus has been insisting on defunding Obamacare, egged on by outside conservative groups and a handful of far-right Republican Senators, most importantly Ted Cruz (Texas). This has been pretty annoying for a lot of House Republican members and staff. Jonathan Strong and Andrew Stiles of National Review got an anecdote out of a closed Republican Study...
Check out the part I put in bold.
U.S. poverty rate flat, 48 million people uninsured: Census
The number of Americans living in poverty remained steady last year at 15 percent after rising for several years in the wake of the recession, while the number of people without health insurance fell slightly to 48 million, U.S. government data released on Tuesday showed.
In January the government will be putting them on Obamacare, and of course it will be highly subsidized by our taxes, probably in the billions of dollars.
Republicans Weigh Defunding Health Law, Avoiding Shutdown
Can't post Bloomberg text, but it claims Boehner says if the Republicans don't fund ObamaCare then they lose the house in 2014. That's idiocy and exactly backwards. If they DO fund ObamaCommieCare, they get voted out!! Tax paying Americans do not want this unconstitutional communist POS!! http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-09-17/republicans-weigh-defunding-health-law-avoiding-shutdown
Signed. Letter to Nunez sent. Thanks!
And another GOP-e apologist chimes in.
Defund ObamaCommieCare!!
Kill it before nit kills America!!
Thanks all for those truly substantive contributions. The others we can ignore. I worry about the ability of both entrenched dems and reps to put it over on the people.
The more we share thoughts about the issues respectfully, the better chance we have to elect true populists to public office. If we do not build unity our country is gone.
I am with you on Cruz so far. Buffet is slimy.
Cool and oh yeah on Buffet.
And, oh yeah I'm trying to school the dissenter...
I don’t quite understand what you are saying. Could you please phrase it differently?
Agree. We must kill this hideous hydra, dispatch it now before it escapes and gets new life. Republicans would be strengthened if they could come up a reasonable PHASED alternative to reduce health care costs. Show the people you have a viable plan to save them money and improve care.
The Republicans need to have a positive counterweight in this fight.
Defund ObamaCommieCare!!
Kill it before it kills America!!
The tea party rebellion is on against the dims AND GOP-e!!
Don’t tread on me!!
John Boehner, is that you?
I understand that completely, as am I. I am not a dem or a rep. I am an independent, true conservative. That said, I usually have to vote rep as the lesser of two evils.
The problem I have about the Tea Party is that the new activists are not experienced and if they let in experienced x reps, they might get conned.
We need to re-articulate conservative principles and gain more voters for true conservatives. We failed in 08 and12. Can’t lose again.
We are sick and tired of voting the lesser evil. I know I am not alone. It is that lesser evil that has discouraged conservatives from the process.
I have come to the point where I would rather lose with the right guy than win with the wrong guy
I hope those of you who are working toward delaying/defunding Obamacare can at least spare a prayer for those of us who have been informed we are losing our coverage on Dec. 31st and would be left stranded. Personally, I think the defund should have occurred three years ago. At this point a defund without some alternate arrangement is unlikely to go over well with a bunch of folks.
We need to keep talking conservatism. I talk to strangers. You don’t like X? Then be dure to vote for conservatives who will implement the policies which made this country great.
I am amazed st who seem to be getting the message.
That is good to hear
This "affordable care act" is only affordable to the elite and the millions that will have it paid for by the government.
Weather or not it is defunded won't change the fact that people in your situation will not be able to afford even Obamacare IMO.
Actually it should have never passed, and should have been repealed right after it passed.
The republicans have authored several bills to have a better system, but Reid will not even let the senate vote on them.
He sits on his throne and tells the house that if they don't send him a bill with everything he (Reid) wants, he will see that it does not go through.
Then he says the republicans are shutting down the government!
And the media parrots his words and the republicans get the vapors and take the blame.
It's all out of whack, I hope everything works out in the end for you and the others that have been told your healthcare will end in Jan.
Nothing affordable about Obamacare
I wish they had read the Affordable Care Act because they would have seen it was going to create a situation where over ninety percent of all jobs currently being created are part-time jobs.
Obamacare will continue to see the number of full-time jobs decline and health care costs increase through things like these:
- Excise tax
- People forced to buy coverage they do not need
- Young adults required to pay for the someone elses medical care by forcing them into expensive programs they do not need
- Guaranteed coverage for pre-existing conditions that forces insurance companies to charge everyone higher premiums
- A 2 percent sales tax on medical devices
- Patients paying (by most estimates) $2.3 billion more per year for prescription drugs
- Insurers paying unlimited coverage
- Deductions limited, forcing higher premiums
- Various other issues impacting cost to employers, making it increasingly difficult for them to comply unless the workers are part-time workers.
This truly is Obamas Unaffordable Care Act not only unaffordable to individuals, but also very unaffordable to businesses. It is especially unaffordable in an economy already teetering on the brink of disaster because of our unfettered spending and debt. Its time to scrap this mess and put together something that will really work.
Fox News poll: 68 percent concerned about their health care under new lawAlso of interest:
FoxNews.com ^ | September 17, 2013 | Dana Blanton
Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2013 12:05:22 PM by RedMDer
Nearly 7 out of 10 voters are concerned about their personal health care under the Affordable Care Act and a majority wants to take the health care system back to 2009, according to the latest Fox News national poll.
The poll, released Tuesday, finds that 68 percent of voters are concerned about their health care under the new system. That includes 43 percent very concerned and another 25 percent somewhat concerned.
The number feeling concerned is more than twice that of those who are unworried (31 percent).
Even a 56-percent majority of Democrats feels concerned (31 percent very concerned). By comparison, 72 percent of independents and 77 percent of Republicans feel that way.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ..
Obamas group attacks GOP government shutdown as 70 Repubs sponsor bill to avoid shutdown
Daily Caller ^ | Sept 17, 2013 | By Patrick Howley
Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2013 8:09:22 PM by Jim Robinson
Republican Rep. Tom Graves budget plan to defund Obamacare while avoiding a government shutdown is rapidly gaining House support, but President Obamas advocacy group Organizing for Action (OFA) is still using claims that Republicans want a shutdown in its fundraising pitch.
Graves Stability, Security, and Fairness Resolution now has 70 House cosponsors after 11 more lawmakers cosponsored Tuesday. The continuing resolution proposal for fiscal year 2014 actually avoids a government shutdown and funds all facets of the federal government, with the exception of spending related to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. Graves introduced the plan last Thursday.
There has never, ever, ever been any proposal from Ted Cruz or Mike Lee to shut down the functions of government. That was just the media, said Brian Phillips, communications director for Sen. Mike Lee, who is partnering with Sen. Cruz on the highly publicized Defund Obamacare campaign.
The Defund Obamacare movement has been routinely criticized by Democrats and the mainstream media for opening up the possibility of a government shutdown if Senate Democrats dont get on board. OFA, which was assembled from the remnants of Obamas 2012 campaign to push for the presidents second-term agenda, continues to raise money off that premise.
There are Republicans in the House so dead set on stopping Obamacare that theyre willing to sabotage our economy to do it. Really. Instead of passing a budget by the September 30th deadline, theyre threatening to shut down the government if Obamacare isnt defunded, OFA chairman and Obamas 2012 campaign manager Jim Messina claimed in a Tuesday email to supporters introducing a new TV ad and asking for money.
Its time for them to cut the crap and get serious Their latest plan is dangerous we know that. They know it, too, Messina wrote.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...
Poll: Obamacare opposition climbs
Politico ^ | 9/11/13 5:44 PM EDT | JAMES ARKIN
Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:17:04 PM by RedMDer
More than half of Americans oppose most or all of the proposals in Obamacare, a sharp increase in opposition to the healthcare law from earlier this year, according to a new poll Wednesday.
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Asked about a potential government shutdown that could follow this strategy, 51 percent of Americans said they would blame the GOP while just 33 percent said they would blame Obama.
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ..
Obama Dares Republicans to Defy Tea Party on Obamacare, Shutdown Deal
National Journal (excerpt - click for article) ^ | Sept 16, 2013 | By Patrick Reis
Posted on Monday, September 16, 2013 11:26:04 AM by Jim Robinson
President Obama took a swipe at the Hard Right on Monday, accusing tea-party-aligned House Republicans of gambling with the nation's economy by threatening to shut down the government unless Obamacare is defunded.
In a sprawling economic speech, Obama called on Congress to avert a government shutdown by passing a budget, and he insisted he would brook no wrangling over a raise in the debt ceiling. Obama said such a shutdown, or even the possibility of default, would damage the still-fragile economic recovery.
Specifically, the president went after Republicans who say they won't vote for any budget deal that does not nullify the Affordable Care Act. "I cannot remember a time when one faction of one party promises economic chaos if it can't get 100 percent of what it wants," Obama said. "That's never happened before, and that's what happening right now."
Obama appealed to the rest of the Republican Party for help in brokering a budget compromise, challenging members to break with those calling for defunding Obamacare.
"Are some of these folks so beholden to one extreme wing of their party that they're willing to tank our whole economy?" he said. "Are they willing to hurt people?"
Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:12:03 AM by Oldeconomybuyer
The number of Americans living in poverty remained steady last year at 15 percent after rising for several years in the wake of the recession, while the number of people without health insurance fell slightly to 48 million, U.S. government data released on Tuesday showed.
(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...
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