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Angry House Republicans demand better communication
The Hill ^ | September 15, 2013 | Molly K. Hooper

Posted on 09/15/2013 11:36:05 AM PDT by maggief

Republican lawmakers are growing increasingly frustrated with what they say is a lack of communication from their leaders.

Both centrist and conservative members in the House believe that Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and his lieutenants could have done more earlier this year to counter the Tea Party's effort to defund ObamaCare. Some Republicans on Capitol Hill say such an effort is politically impossible with a Democratic-controlled Senate and a Democrat in the White House. Regardless, the rift on what to do on ObamaCare has opened up a civil war within the GOP.

That deep division is flaring at a time when fiscal showdowns are front and center following the August recess. A number of lawmakers, who spoke with The Hill on the condition of anonymity, say they are upset that their leaders don't appear to have a strategy and didn't communicate more with them during the summer break.

Shortly after Texas GOP Sen. Ted Cruz unveiled his intention in mid-July to turn up the heat on House Republicans on ObamaCare funding, a GOP lawmaker walked to Boehner's office to warn the Speaker of the impending public relations battle, according to a lawmaker close to the situation.

The source said that Boehner was asked to “get in front of the issue or else the battle will be set for us."

But the Speaker and Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) opted not to publicly shoot down Cruz's ideas. Cruz has been subsequently joined by other senators, most notably Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.).

Over the five-week recess, GOP lawmakers dealt with angry constituents on a daily basis, provoked by the conservative crusade to defund ObamaCare by any means necessary — even at the risk of a government shutdown.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; ericcantor; johnboehner; obamacare; ohio; randsconcerntrolls; tedcruz; texas; virginia; zerocare

1 posted on 09/15/2013 11:36:05 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

” to counter the Tea Party’s effort to defund ObamaCare.”

wtf

the American people demand these assholes follow our orders

we are not their serfs, they are our representatives and they MUST do what we say, not the other way around


2 posted on 09/15/2013 11:37:48 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: maggief

insubordination of our representatives, they need to be thrown the hell out of office


3 posted on 09/15/2013 11:38:22 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: maggief

Did they stamp their little feet when they made those demands?


4 posted on 09/15/2013 11:41:34 AM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: maggief

Politically impossible my eye.

Spending/appropriation originates in the House.

Don’t fund the damn thing and don’t compromise with the Senate.


5 posted on 09/15/2013 11:42:45 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: yldstrk

Well yee haw cowboy lover.

They’re complaining that Boehner was foiled to some extent in undermining the Tea Party protest against the Huge Fail called Obamacare. The sooner it is branded a Huge Fail and treated budgetarily in accordance, the better.


6 posted on 09/15/2013 11:43:51 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: maggief
Both centrist and conservative members in the House believe that Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and his lieutenants could have done more earlier this year to counter the Tea Party's effort to defund ObamaCare.

Quit reading this BS right there.

7 posted on 09/15/2013 11:44:37 AM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz......Nuff said.)
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To: maggief

The “Hill” is pro-Democrat. Look at the spin and to we conservatives see TEA Party efforts & Heritage Fnd. efforts are working to defund ObamaCare. Keep up the calls to your House members on this issue, no funding!


8 posted on 09/15/2013 11:45:26 AM PDT by RicocheT (Where neither their property nor their honor is touched, most men live content, Niccolo Machiavelli)
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To: maggief

So the gist of this article is that Boner and his GOPe lieutenants are not RINO enough....


9 posted on 09/15/2013 11:45:35 AM PDT by rhinohunter (Freepers aren't booing -- they're shouting "Cruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuz")
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To: yldstrk

I’m partial to Keelhauling.


10 posted on 09/15/2013 11:46:11 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: Joe Boucher

I’ve never heard of that candidate. What is the platform of Mr. or Ms. Keelhauling?


11 posted on 09/15/2013 11:47:27 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: maggief
Angry House Republicans demand better communication

After all, they want to all use the same knot in the rope they use to hang themselves.

12 posted on 09/15/2013 11:47:29 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: maggief
Exactly what are the RINOs supporting?

The newly defined 30 hour week?
The medical instrument tax increase?
An additional 16,000 IRS agents sent by Obama to harass Americans and American businesses?
The Death Panel?
The 40% excise tax?
The implied rationing of health care assets?
The illegal immigration loop hole that makes the American Worker more expensive vis a vis an illegal?

Exactly what are you jackasses supporting? And why the eff are you NOT fighting for us?

13 posted on 09/15/2013 11:48:07 AM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: maggief

This is what inevitably happens to folks with rhetoric but no real principles. It isn’t a question of if they will go down, but when they will go down.


14 posted on 09/15/2013 11:48:55 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: maggief
Anybody know who these Republicans are? I'd like to ring them.
15 posted on 09/15/2013 11:49:08 AM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: The Cajun

Conservative as in Rockefeller-Republican?

What a sick joke occupies Washington today.

Well there is no sick joke in Heaven, although God gives the sickly obstinate the old har-har from Heaven. Ps. 2:4


16 posted on 09/15/2013 11:49:10 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: maggief
The source said that Boehner was asked to “get in front of the issue or else the battle will be set for us."

The source is 100 % correct and House leadership should have "framed" the issue before the libtards did it for them...

Now every news media has taking the DNC talking points to make it look like the GOP is fractured and rudderless trying to deal with a rogue element of Tea Party members ..

Real "sober" house leadership would have put together a game plan with the Senate to have a united front...

Boehner is freaking useless...

17 posted on 09/15/2013 11:49:29 AM PDT by Popman (Liberal wars are about killing people for humanitarian reasons...)
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To: Chgogal

They’re supporting the Kaleidoscope Configuration Of The Week. Or something like this!


18 posted on 09/15/2013 11:49:54 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Popman

Well, if Boehner is dug in against stark common sense and against taking the bull by the horns... he’s reaping the judgment.


19 posted on 09/15/2013 11:51:13 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: maggief

So let’s be clear: These “angry House Republicans” are angry Boehner hasn’t been firm enough in his wimpiness. He hasn’t been strident enough in his cave-ins to Obastard.

Do I have this correct?


20 posted on 09/15/2013 11:51:31 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: maggief

All the leadership wants is for fellow Republicans to “get their asses in line” and vote with the leadership. Its the Boehner way of leading.

I can’t find an iota of sympathy for these critics of the Leadership since they put them in the leadership knowing they weren’t communicators.


21 posted on 09/15/2013 11:51:50 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: Joe Boucher

Screw that. I’m insisting on some plank-walking, and while we’re at it, keep the rope and yard-arms warmed up because we’re going to need them too.


22 posted on 09/15/2013 11:53:40 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
If Obamacare is not defunded, the Republican party needs to be put out of our misery.

Enough is enough of their backstabbing us at every turn.

23 posted on 09/15/2013 11:54:21 AM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz......Nuff said.)
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To: The Cajun

That is one of the myriad ways we can disobey God’s plan, short of creating a viable third party.

God promises us the resources we need to exalt His name. Dumping some resource on the floor because we had a grudge does not honor Him.


24 posted on 09/15/2013 11:56:56 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: maggief

I be thinkin’ Ms. Hooper, the author of this article’s source is her five year old kid.


25 posted on 09/15/2013 11:57:59 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: maggief

Angry constituents demand better Republicans.

Sure, I know we are stuck with the Republican party we have, and not the one we want. There are a few stars, to be sure, but they are a minority even within the ?Republicans? in the House, and for sure, within the Senate.

The opposition Republicans have an opportunity to go and be the sufficiently large majority to significantly stall out the Current Regime now squatting in the White Hut until January 2017. The first priority now should be to defund it, not defend it, when it comes to the “Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010”. About the only part of that atrocity that remotely resembles fact and reality is the date of passage. Patients are not protected in any realistic way, and the care offered is not sustainable in any fiscally defensible manner.


26 posted on 09/15/2013 11:57:59 AM PDT by alloysteel (Those who deny natural climate change are forever doomed to stupidity. AGW is a LIE.)
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To: The Cajun

Now, not that I would disagree with raising a third party, but we can’t do it out of ego. We need to read the spiritual signs that this is propitious.


27 posted on 09/15/2013 11:59:09 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: maggief
Some Republicans on Capitol Hill say such an effort is politically impossible with a Democratic-controlled Senate and a Democrat in the White House.

Here is where, unfortunately, the Dems are smarter than Repubs (I hate saying that, but it needs saying). Dems would force the vote and then use it as propaganda against the Repubs. This is what the Repubs should do. Take the vote, let it be voted down by the Dems in the Senate and use it against them in the 2014 elections.

28 posted on 09/15/2013 12:00:34 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: alloysteel
The HOR conservatives could've gotten Boehner out as Speaker. They only needed something like 17 votes. They had enough constitutional conservatives to do that, but they didn't.

Damn right we're angry.

29 posted on 09/15/2013 12:01:25 PM PDT by grania
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To: alloysteel

Knowing the history of such boondoggles, way back then I prognosticated that it would turn out to have been cheaper if the welfare set had simply had been issued health care plans while leaving the rest of the system alone.

Well We The People need a good stiff lesson in Not Being God. The good Lord has let this happen for a purpose. He did not go off on a bender. He did not go on vacation. We have a Challenge here, but a Challenge which can be eminently met with restored faith. IF we choose to let our faith be restored.


30 posted on 09/15/2013 12:02:07 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: jeffc

It’s true, Republicans could show themselves as having been prescient here when this dead skunk finally does rot into little bitty pieces.


31 posted on 09/15/2013 12:03:13 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: maggief
Over the five-week recess, GOP lawmakers dealt with angry constituents on a daily basis, provoked by the conservative crusade to defund ObamaCare by any means necessary — even at the risk with the added benefit of a government shutdown.

Fixed.

When are these assclown Republican "leaders" going to understand that the only people who even notice a "government shutdown" are the moochers and parasites (AKA, "the Democrat party base") who suddenly find their snouts hitting the dry bottom of the public trough?

SHUT IT DOWN! Do whatever is necessary to save America from communist health care.

32 posted on 09/15/2013 12:04:45 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I think the Lord wants us to help ourselves too, what is his plan, my little brain has no clue, but I do pray twice a day for guidance.

I like the story of St. Augustine walking on the beach and encountering an angel.
It really depicts the folly of man trying to understand the mind of God.

Nuff said on religious matters, that's is definitely a to each his own thing, but trying to do right as best as we can in life.

33 posted on 09/15/2013 12:11:24 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz......Nuff said.)
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To: The Cajun

No, we cannot afford to treat faith as to each his own.

That’s the kind of insipid, disjointed spiritual condition that helped Satan pick America apart.

We do not have to agree on every single solitary thing to get some good solid basics of a grace faith reaffirmed across most of society. And I mean a grace faith.


34 posted on 09/15/2013 12:13:18 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Popman

“Boehner is freaking useless...”

Useless? Are you kidding?

He’s about the best all around Speaker the Democrats could have hoped for. It would have been much more difficult to scroo us over if someone else was in there.


35 posted on 09/15/2013 12:14:39 PM PDT by Paulie
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To: The Cajun

Well I went and googled it about the story (What hath God wrought? among other things, the internet). What was being purported as impossible to grasp was all the details of the holy Trinity.

That doesn’t mean we cannot grasp enough of the holy Trinity in order to be extremely useful even here on earth. God does not smile at a false modesty, which is laziness.


36 posted on 09/15/2013 12:15:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: yldstrk; All

http://www.nationaljournal.com/daily/don-t-call-them-moderates-but-centrist-republicans-are-emerging-in-the-house-20130211

Don’t Call Them Moderates, but Centrist Republicans Are Emerging in the House

By Billy House
Updated: May 30, 2013 | 12:27 a.m.
February 11, 2013 | 9:30 p.m.

EXCERPT

Pinning down this group’s actual membership—or even identifying members under one umbrella—can be difficult, in part because of the political climate. In some Republican circles, for example, being labeled as a moderate can now be problematic. Yet one segment met last week in the basement of the U.S. Capitol for the reorganizational meeting of the “Tuesday Group,” a gathering of fiscal conservatives who are traditionally more moderate than many of their GOP counterparts on social issues.

About 20 GOP lawmakers attended the initial meeting, during which they elected three cochairs: Reps. Charlie Dent of Pennsylvania, Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, and Erik Paulsen of Minnesota.


37 posted on 09/15/2013 12:19:09 PM PDT by maggief
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To: HiTech RedNeck
No, we cannot afford to treat faith as to each his own.

I meant that each of us should try and get right with the Lord each day.
That will be different for each of us because we are unique individuals, but that doesn't stop us from doing right.

Lots of not doing basic *Right* going on in the country today.
My sincere feeling is that we had better begin helping ourselves a little if we want the Lord to help us.
That has to come from ourselves individually, not from a minister, priest or even the pope, but from our own hearts.

Definitely nuff said on this by me.

38 posted on 09/15/2013 12:28:28 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz......Nuff said.)
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To: maggief
click-> America the Beautiful......


39 posted on 09/15/2013 12:29:06 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: maggief

Many of these men were for getting rid of Obamacare before they were elected — then told us the truth after they were elected.


40 posted on 09/15/2013 12:30:42 PM PDT by winkadink (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: maggief

Actually I am in favor of having ObamaCare be fully implemented in 2014 as the legislation called for. Over riding Obama’s waiver for the employers mandate. But to nothing to correct any problems found as it launches. I wan to see it implode as fast as possible. I don’t want to wait until after the 2014 election.


41 posted on 09/15/2013 12:54:56 PM PDT by RDasher ("El Nino is climate, La Nina is weather")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“”What is the platform of Mr. or Ms. Keelhauling?””

“The trip from port to starboard will kill you”


42 posted on 09/15/2013 1:18:13 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: maggief

Wah! They deserve what they get.


43 posted on 09/15/2013 2:40:59 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: winkadink
It's easy to talk big about eliminating Obamacare when you're running for congress. Then, when you find out the actual rules, and can't do it, you have put yourself into a corner with your constituents. And being a constituent, they don't want to hear or don't want to know the finer details of legislation and why some things actually can't be made to to disappear. I.E., you can't use Continuing Resolutions to defund entitlements, no matter what it says or how it's presented.
44 posted on 09/15/2013 2:44:26 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: LibLieSlayer

How do you hope to get more conservatives then? :-)


45 posted on 09/15/2013 2:45:16 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: muleskinner

Which is apparently one abomination the no-budget budgets have brought us, but what prevents simply not putting an appropriation for it in the bill. Then when they try anyhow, sue.


46 posted on 09/15/2013 2:46:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: The Cajun

Yeah, makes you wonder about supposed “conservatives” complaining about the TEA Party.


47 posted on 09/15/2013 2:48:23 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I wasn’t thinking that any Conservatives would put to that form of punishment. rinos and rats yes! ;-)


48 posted on 09/15/2013 3:55:42 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: maggief
“About 20 GOP lawmakers attended the initial meeting, during which they elected three co-chairs: Reps. Charlie Dent of Pennsylvania, Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, and Erik Paulsen of Minnesota.”

I would not consider these Republicans as “moderates” or “centrists” — they are liberal RINOs. Rep. Adam Kinzinger is a liberal RINO that needs to be retired after his present first term. this guy is an absolute disaster. He is clueless and brain dead.

49 posted on 09/15/2013 6:18:28 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Popman
Boehner is freaking useless...

That would depend on whom he is working for wouldn't it?

50 posted on 09/15/2013 7:00:43 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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