Skip to comments.Why millennials won't turn "conservative"
Posted on 09/16/2013 5:42:07 AM PDT by ReformationFan
Every so often the wonks of wishful thinking give us an article about how blacks are becoming Republicans, how Hispanics are supposedly a natural GOP constituency, or, as is the subject here today, how the millennial generation is turning "conservative." Perhaps pundits asserting the last thing recall Winston Churchill's observation, "If you're not a liberal at 20, you have no heart; if you're not a conservative at 40, you have no brain." And perhaps they overlook that it's possible to raise a brainless generation.
Don't think, as one might, that this will be a typical analysis sneering at the proverbial "next generation" using the perceived gold standard of one's own. After all, I realize that my generation is the tree the millennial nut fell from. Placing matters in further perspective, it's true that older and younger generations ever slam each other; it's also true that they both are always partially right. Lastly, I'll say that I don't at all consider the WWII FDR voters the "greatest generation," though it makes for a nice narrative. The greatest generation was the one that founded our nation and wondered if we could "keep" its republic, and there has been a consistent, but accelerating, degeneration ever since. In discussing our latest movement toward idiocracy, my starting point will be a Sept. 4 American Thinker article written by one Chriss Street. In making his case for millennial hope, Mr. Street points out that while 61 percent of millennials voted for Barack Obama in 2012, his approval among them has now sunk to 46 percent. But this is a deceptive statistic. For an approval rating amounts to the judging of a candidate relative to people's ideal personal standard for the presidency, whereas in an election he is judged relative to another specific candidate for the presidency.
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They still need to be actually mugged by reality. Not bullied, not jostled, but violently mugged.
When they head out on their own, once out of parents home, college, and set up their own households, then REALITY begins to hit.
Not Conservative in the terms of the religious right. Rather Libertarian Conservative. Conservative in terms of smaller govt, Libertatian in terms of social values.
God won’t protect such people.
We are in an economic Depression.
The government can hide and lie about the true statistics all day long, but people in the real world know their situation.
Some people will continue to vote for Obama for Entitlements (both earned and unearned), and many young people have liberal social morals (read: un-Biblical). They also hope for student loan "forgiveness."
The fault lies with their cowardly parents who subsidize their Lazy Left life-style because they are afraid of these amoral off-spring.
Glad someone published that the greatest gen is the Founding gen and the so-called commie Brokaw coined gen wasn’t so much. Just better than ours.
Simple. Because all the time they've spent in government indoctrination centers [schools] has filled their heads full of mush.
Millennials are far too decadent to ever be conservative. They have embraced the epicurean life style. Licentious sexual behavior including a tolerance for almost all perversions, widespread use of drugs, very limited child bearing, endless expectation of entitlements, neo pagan earth worship rather than traditional religion does not lead to a conservative political viewpoint or a prosperous future. There is a reason Obama was elected twice.
Wait until they get out into the “real world”, that ALL CHANGES.
Most I have been around dress and act like fags, just sayin...
True. It is a wasted effort. These are the dead brined moronic followers manufactured by the public school system. While reality may shock a few into the real world, many will stay in the land of candy, puppies, kittens and unicon farts.
I agree, and that’s actually my experience and not just in the US; even in Europe, I’ve seen the same thing.
Smaller government is the essence of a libertarian. “Conservative” today means conserving leviathan.
The only thing that will restore the Republic at that point is revolution. And there's no guarantee we'll win.
What we today consider “conservative” will be tomorrow’s “radical.”
That mostly describes my 17-year-old daughter. She is not amoral. She has a personal relationship with Christ. She simply believes in free will and therefore doesn't condemn others. She will witness to others, but she leaves judgment to the Lord.
How conservatives ever became associated with “small government” is a mystery. They are quite content to have big and intrusive government.
They can’t turn conservative because most have rejected Christian values and are still looking for the old “something for nothing”.
Never understood how anyone could consider Hispanics, who overwhelmingly favor big-government treatment to every ill, as a "natural GOP constituency." And the bit about blacks turning to the GOP... that's about as laughable as it gets. Blacks and Hispanics act and vote as a bloc, and are keyed in to what their leaders tell them. They think in the collective, not the individual sense.
40 years ago my generation was very liberal. Very articulate and very committed. We had even fewer outlets reporting republican side then now. Now look at us.
Exactly... with the increasing popularity of atheism and a growing anti-Christian sentiment in this country, the millennials are as far removed from what constitutes "conservative" as any group can be.
Today, “reality” is defined as welfare, food stamps, Obamaphones and government-subsidized housing... like that mooching surfer in Cali, a taxpayer-paid lifestyle is the new “America Dream.”
Romney actually carried the white youth vote.
The REAL issue here is DEMOGRAPHICS.
That will change when she starts filing income tax returns...lol.
My 26 YO daughter thinks I'm a lot smarter today than when she was 18.
Look for the surging of the tea party movement, a force to be rekon.
Yes... with Obamacare, taxpayers will be paying for those as well.
And I stand on my position.
Your OPINION, not mine. Take care!
I don't happen to think it's so hopeless, and we speak of what happens someday when "Millennials" get mugged by reality. True, it won't be pretty, and the shoe still has to drop on the Gen-Xers and Gen-Yers: Why Generation Y Yuppies Are Unhappy
The writer here certainly writes like he himself has been "mugged," and his prognostications are his "reality." But the flip in public opinion and outlook that could occur on a macro scale of sea change akin to the Reagan Revolution would be for 3 basic things to happen:
1. Unleash US energy production
2. Reduce gov't spending by 1%/year across the board, and achieve balance in 7 years.
3. Lower the top corporate tax rate to 25% (or even 20%)
1. Restoration of US as a net energy exporter
2. Balanced budget
3. Repatriation of foreign investment and off-shore cash.
The writer's depressed outlook too soon forgets the Carter malaise and damns us all to hopelessly more of the same.
Had the 2012 election gone differently I suspect the national outlook would also be substantially brighter about what Millennials will do or say, because they would have become parties to the ensuing prosperity.
We will crawl back control of both houses of Congress in 2014 if we don't grovel in all the defeatism this author does, and then the "Reformation" can begin led by the ascendancy of Tea Party types (doesn't have to be all Libertarians either, BTW).
A lot can happen between now and 2016. Surrendering the fight at the start is no way to win.
I hear ya. I'm just not seeing anything that shows the tide will turn enough to make a difference.
Americans were offered a clear choice between:
This was the equivalent of Lot offering his virgin daughters to the men of Sodom to spare the holy men who were visiting his home. And the men of Sodom rejected the offer.
The only thing standing between us and a similar fate as Sodom is that the decision of the American people, while still a majority, was far from unanimous.
There is probably a lot more than one would think who are some combination of conservative and small l libertarian. It is up to the Tea Party conservatives to determine if that makes them valuable allies to fight for American liberties and freedoms with.
Our daughter and her friend both left $65 K jobs in LA because there were too many queers and liberals. They were working for ABC and just couldn't stand the constant liberal agenda.
That is why I see a surge in the tea party movement.
Young, hip people would never catch themselves dead advocating for a stiff like Romney or Dole. they just aren’t “cool”.
Somebody like Ted Cruz or Rand Paul would be acceptable because they are “rebels”.
That is depth of the calculation made.
Actually, before the Bushs took over, conservative did imply small government. But then these North Eastern liberals attached the word to themselves, hollowed out the meaning and poured a new meaning into the shell. Now the Bushs define Conservative. So much so that a fellow North East Liberal, Romney, can unabashedly call himself severely Conservative.
It’s just that a lot of people haven’t figured out that a Bait and Switch has taken place. But that never lasts forever. Pretty soon the word Conservative will start to stink. Then the progressives will have to go find another word to ruin.
They do not want reality.
It is really simple for them
FREE STUFF vs. no free stuff.
they want the free stuff.
they don’t care about the payments, they don’t want to think.
all they hear is “blah blah blah blah FREE STUFF blah blah blah blah.”
Well said. And don't forget the clincher:
"Vote for me, and I will get you someone else's money."
(What do the conservatives have to offer-That those with the money get to keep more of it.)-Tom
They’ve been Pavlov-trained by their teachers to equate Conservatism with bullying. I don’t suspect that they will ever go there.
Yeah, well, there voting patterns don’t show it, since they vote for demagogues like Obamugabe. I guess they’re what you call “theoretical libertarians.”
Well, it depends on what you mean by “condemn.” We have an obligation to judge behavior. As the Bible says, “I have made you a watchtower over the people of Israel. If you do not warn a wicked man of his wicked ways, you will be condemned also.” The only way in which we’re called to refrain from judging is in predicting a person’s final destination.
To be frank, it sounds like your daughter has gotten caught up in modernism. For one thing, our relationship with Jesus isn’t merely “personal” because He is the embodiment of absolute truth, which is, of course, absolute. In other words, we’re dealing with objective reality here, not just subjective.
Not exactly. That’s PART of the issue, but race and sex are significant factors too. For instance, Romney might have carried the white youth vote by a hair (and I’m not even sure about that) but the margins weren’t even close to what they were with their white elders. And blacks of every age group are much more likely to vote left than their white age-mates.
So, yes, the issue is demographics, but in it’s totality — not just age.