Skip to comments.Obama Says GOP Debt Ceiling Demands Are an Assault on U.S. ‘Constitutional Structure’
Posted on 09/16/2013 11:17:46 AM PDT by xzins
President Barack Obama said in an interview which aired on Sunday that he will not negotiate on the debt ceiling with the GOP.
What I havent been willing to negotiate, and I will not negotiate, is on the debt ceiling, Obama told ABC News George Stephanopoulos in an interview on This Week.
The comments come on the eve of another fiscal showdown, where House Republicans, seeking to defund and delay the implementation of the presidents landmark healthcare law, hope to negotiate concessions from the White House.
If we continue to set a precedent in which a president is in a situation in which each time the United States is called upon to pay its bills, the other party can simply sit there and say, Well, were not going to put pay the bills unless you give us what we want, that changes the constitutional structure of this government entirely, Obama said.
Obama said he is drawing a red line.
What has never happened in the past was the notion that in exchange for fulfilling the full faith and credit of the United States, that we are wiping away lets say major legislation like the health care bill, he said.
Never in history have we used just making sure that the U.S. government is paying its bills as a lever to radically cut government at the kind of scale that theyre talking about, he added.
This seems strange to me.
The Constitution gives the House of Representatives the authority to initiate any bill having anything to do with spending. When it comes to spending, the Constitution says, it’s got to pass “The Peoples’ Representatives” first.
So, how is saying, “no more debt; we’re sick and tired of debt” an assault on the Constitution?
SOMEONE should be saying that.
Can you imagine your family members telling you that refusing to go into additional debt is an assault on the family structure.
“But, kids, we can’t afford a new car.”
“Tough, Dad. If you don’t get a new car, then you are assaulting us, and we’re calling Child Services.”
“Hi, Mr X, this is Child Services: We’re sending the SWAT teams over. I understand you’ve been assaulting your kids.”
The only assault we have right now is from this White House
Yet the legislative branch can ignore any laws they don’t like.
And implement “EOs” for laws they wished they had.
Wow from an a$$clown who wouldn’t know the constitution if it hit him upside the head.
When will the GOP call King Obama a liar. And ads should be taken out on MSM with destroying King Obama and call him a liar. Stop being so soft on this communists who has destroyed America.
Exactly. The House’s power of the purse was adapted from the Brit House of Commons. It is designed for the people’s reps to stymie the executive when necessary.
Obamacare has become a black hole of additional spending, despite your hollow claims that it would save money. So, that's a place to start.
If you don't want to do it with Obamacare, then it's time to come up with a significant cut elsewhere.
“Obama said he is drawing a red line. “
Oh my god, he is drawing a red line. Well I guess if he is drawing a red line, we should give up.
Given that the budget ends in two weeks and the debt limit just weeks after that congress has not actually committed the spending for what Obama calls ‘pay the bills’ yet.
Obama is actually demanding the spending be passed in a CR so he can argue that now congress must ‘pay the bills’ they racked up by extending the debt.
What if GOP told MSM they would not ‘negotiate’ like Obama gets away with?? (he only negotiates with those pledged to kill us)
Can you imagine?
He’ll negotiate with Assad, with Putin, with Ahmadinejad, et al, but he won’t with the GOP.
This POS is so treasonous. Why has he not been arrested yet?
Obama is a Marxist idiot. Has it all backwards as usual.
WTF does he know about the Constitution?
The former University instructor in Constitutional Law appears to be a bit confused as to where the Power of the Purse lies.
He’ll not negotiate.
The bigger question is whether the House will cave. They are terribly afraid of bad press.
But, the truth is that they DON’T have to NEGOTIATE what Obama will do. Since they’re in the driver’s seat on spending, all that have to do is TO DO what they’ll do.
"President Putin, there's a call from the United States for you...someone named Boh-ner, that's what it sounds like to me. He needs advice on circumventing another one of Obama's red lines. Will you take the call?"
"He's very persistent...now he's crying about a Cruz missile that he can't shake off...no, this Boh-ner man doesn't appear to be exceptional, not in the American sense."
Sadly but seriously this is exactly how the Left looks at the goings on in Washington. Its not their fault. Its the fault of those “Waskely Wepublicans”.
The Constitution says:
Article 1 SECTION. 8.
The Congress shall have Power... ...To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;
They are also, therefore, empowered to NOT borrow money.
The president is NOT empowered to do either.
Mr. Obama sounds like an hysterical jackass. The fundamental structure of the Constitution is not only NOT being altered, it is actually being adhered to (by congress).
Cutting government because we can’t spend unlimited amounts is unconstitutional for sure. A President should be able to do what he wants without the constraints of reality.
NEVER in History have we SPENT so much money on vote-buying/pandering to a voterbase that we put this Nation in debt for generations to come, with NO WAY POSSIBLE TO PAY FOR IT EXCEPT BY MORE BORROWING!
It will come crashing down. They understand that but won't admit it.
There is a point where even their vaunted ability to create money will not get them out of their spending madness.
Nowhere near as Constitution-assaulting as running a federal government five years without a budget, dumbass.
What is that document you’re quoting at me....never heard of it before
I call his stealing from my children and grandchildren unconstitutional.
Is this the kind of mushy headed constitutional law they teach at Harvard?
If so, The Obamadork’s leftist professors must be absolutely overjoyed with their success.
Did he ever actually pass a state bar someplace? I forget.
why should he negotiate? he doesn’t care about the debt ceiling... and hasn’t since he fedgov stopped updating our national debt on may 17th... about $50billion short of the ‘ceiling’
here’s a tip for those clueless republicrats...
a ‘ceiling’ is only a ceiling ... if you cannot exceed it, cannot ignore it, and cannot avoid it.
next time, put some teeth in the bill to insure its implemented
Obama has a CONSTITUTIONAL right to overspend!
And he would know - ‘cause he’s a Constitutional scholar, they say.
Who would know better than Obama what is in the US Constitution?
After all, he is a Harvard schooled lawyer and a constitutional professor, or so we have been told.
The school records and diploma are being held in a secure location along with his real birth certificate and his real social security card.
“...So, how is saying, no more debt; were sick and tired of debt an assault on the Constitution?...”
Because the Tea Party said the one word to him that nobody else ever said to him in his whole Affirmative Action-based career:
They said “No.”
If they packed a sack that is....
"There is scarce a king in a hundred who would not,
if he could, follow the example of Pharaoh -
get first all the people's money, then their lands,
and then make them and their children servants forever.
It will be said that we do not propose to establish kings.
I know it.
But there is a natural inclination in mankind to kingly government.
It sometimes relieves them from aristocratic domination.
They had rather have one tyrant than 500.
It gives more the appearance of equality among citizens, and that they like.
I am apprehensive - therefore - perhaps too apprehensive -
that the government of these States may in future times end in a monarchy
[not called a monarchy but an executive with monarchial powers].
But this catastrophe, I think, may long be delayed,
if in our proposed system we do not sow the seeds of contention,
faction and tumult, by making our posts of honor places of profit.
If we do, I fear that, though we employ at first a number
and not a single person,
the number will in time be set aside,
it will only nourish the fetus of a king
(as the honorable gentleman from Virginia very aptly expressed it),
and a king will the sooner be set over us."
-- Benjamin Franklin
Great words from Franklin.
Places of profit describes nationally elected seats with too many of our Senators and Reps and High appointive offices coming away from them very wealthy or with connections that enable them to become very wealthy.
Technically a shutdown does not cut Obama-care as it is exempt,
so to actually do that they have to somehow get Reid to pass a defund bill and then Obama to sign it.
The question then becomes : Who does a shutdown hurt more (Obama or GOP) ? Or better : which side thinks they will be hurt the worst?
That will tell us who will cave.
Defunding ObamaCare does not repeal it.
Funding the remainder of government except ObamaCare does not repeal it.
Only repealing it will repeal it, and that won’t happen until we have a majority conservative House, a super-majority conservative Senate, and a conservative president.
And that won’t happen some crisis causes America to see it is being led into serfdom.
How do you fund all of America? Start them with middle expectations and keep lowering the payments until they’re low expectations, and them lead them to serfdom.
Who cares if they all have part time jobs, if they accept it?
Who cares if food stamp lobster becomes food stamp beans and rice, if they all accept it.
Who cares if a welfare apartment becomes a welfare hovel, if they all accept it?
The ancestors lived in hovels, ate beans, and worked for a pittance.
Nothing genetic will keep them from doing so.
Only something of the spirit.
It seems to be if you don’t have a budget, you can’t direct what monies get spent where.
IMO, the entire Congress is derelict in their duties for not passing a budget in 5 years, where is the outrage?
DC needs to be flushed, save for a few.
True, my only point was that not having a CR signed by Obama does not defund it. Much of the Rheteric floating arounds sounds like it does,.
What Obama is saying is that he will spend anything he likes and the Congress can go screw them selves.
WE need to grab this gift from the President and run over him with it.
This is not about Republicans....
This is about the Dictator Obama.
A continuing resolution without funds for ObamaCare won’t be signed by Obama. You are correct.
Not having a CR at all won’t defund ObamaCare, either. You are correct.
The conservatives want to put a CR in front of him to sign that funds all of government except ObamaCare and have the people understand that it is Obama who is shutting down the government and not them.
They need to be putting that in ads, in emails, in franking privileges, and in every means of communication they can think of RIGHT NOW.
Because when it actually comes to the showdown, the media is NOT going to carry their water for them.
In other words, they have to get AHEAD of this particular story. Sadly, they can’t agree. So, if they don’t agree until the last minute, then they will be handed their heads by the media.
That’s what’s terrible about Boehner’s dithering.
Is this the same guy who arbitrarily changed a section of a duly enacted law ( the ACA) without any reference to Congress (the Employer Mandate)? I believe this sort of behavior is referred to by those of the Hebrew persuasion as Chutzpah.
I was wondering if I missed the news on that, ya know, that legal requirement for them to pass a budget!
So thankful I have a choice NOT to listen to this fake poser, it’s challenging enough to read what spills out of his pie hole.
He knows the Constitution?!?
“...that changes the constitutional structure of this government entirely,
How in the world did this guy even pass a Constitutional law class?
You missed a step.
That CR must get through the Senate.
Now if the GOP had just 51 willing Senators (all a budget needs) it would be possible to challenge Obama with it directly.
But I bet that Senate only has about 15 or so. You know them.
So Obama will get on TV and blame that ‘no good do nothing GOP congress’ then, just guessing now...Bohner gets with Reid and cuts another CR deal....
Like the reruns of Gilligans Island (now playing on MeTV)
All Right! Obama is drawing another red line in the sand! So we conservatives have WON!!