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HOW HOUSE CAN DEFUND OBAMACARE
Human Events ^ | Sept 16, 2013 | By: Dan Holler

Posted on 09/16/2013 1:42:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

In just two weeks, millions of Americans will become eligible to sign up for the Obamacare exchanges. It will mark the first time millions of voters will have the opportunity to opt into Obamacare, and they will do so with the expectation of receiving benefits in a few short months. Opponents of President Obama’s health care regime can argue about the quality and cost of that care, but entitlement programs are notoriously difficult to unravel once the money starts flowing.

To date, there is just one legislative strategy on the table that is geared toward stopping Obamacare before the exchanges open on October 1st — defund Obamacare on the year-end spending bill. The strategy is supported by Senators like Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Mike Lee (R-UT), Congressmen like Justin Amash (R-MI) and Mark Meadows (R-NC), and conservative voters all across the country.

First, it is important to understand what conservatives mean by “defunding Obamacare.”

Defunding Obamacare means attaching a legislative rider (think of the Hyde Amendment) to the year-end spending bill, which will be considered by September 30, the day before the Obamacare exchanges open for enrollment. The rider would prohibit any funds from being spent on any activities to implement or enforce Obamacare, rescind unspent balances that have already been appropriated and turn off the exchange subsidy and new Medicaid spending, the so-called mandatory spending. Fortunately, the language described already exists in the form of the Defund Obamacare Act of 2013 introduced by Cruz and Rep. Tom Graves (R-GA).

Second, it is important to understand defunding Obamacare is not a new idea.

In 2011, after Republicans took control of the House thanks to the tea party wave, they included a defunding provision on their continuing resolution when it first passed the House. Obviously the provision was jettisoned in subsequent...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cruz; defund; mikelee; obamacare; obamacaves; teaparty; teapartyrebellion; tedcruz
"The blueprint exists, and the importance of acting now – not later – cannot be understated. One of the few entitlement programs to be clawed back was the Medicare Catastrophic Coverage Act of 1988. It was repealed after the public rose up in opposition to an overwhelmingly bipartisan law, but before it had time to be fully implemented. And make no mistake, the Obama folks consider October 1 to be full implementation, at least in terms of beating back any repeal efforts."

Defund this economy-killing, jobs-killing monster that the majority of all Americans do not want!!

Kill it before it kills us!!

1 posted on 09/16/2013 1:42:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Here’s hoping!! (And praying)


2 posted on 09/16/2013 1:44:03 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Jim Robinson

Step 1: Get the WILL to do it.


3 posted on 09/16/2013 1:50:35 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Obama and the DNC want ObamaCARE.

GOP wants ObamaCARE (1. they are the authors: RomneyCARE)
and (2. THEY and their families and staff ARE NOT UNDER IT.

When the GOP nominated the author of RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE
and made HIM their candidate (Romney, in case anyone forgot), even after he backstabbed -through-saboteurs
Gov. Palin (who exposed this as DeathPanels),
it should have become clear which side the GOP is on.
They are on Obama’s side.


4 posted on 09/16/2013 1:51:20 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: RIghtwardHo

So basically, we are relying on an establishment of Democrats and Republicans who are exempt from Obamacare. With a media instigating a fight between them and Conservatives who have over 60% of the electorate on their side who want this repealed?

Oh yeah, we will win this in a cakewalk /extreme sarcasm


5 posted on 09/16/2013 1:53:21 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Make today a great day. Insult a liberal.)
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To: Jim Robinson

There are congresscritters telling their constituents at Town Halls they don’t want to fight this on the Continuing Resolution, they want to fight it on the Debt-Limit debate. Those Congresscritters are *lying.* They know they won’t win the debt-limit fight.


6 posted on 09/16/2013 1:53:40 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Riiight. Just like they did last time. Boehner, Ryan & Co. will fold on the debt ceiling increase in a NY minute.


7 posted on 09/16/2013 1:56:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Kudlow, with smug, arrogant certainty, says that OC cannot be defunded thru a continuing res.

It is a maddening to me someone who claims to be a proponent of getting rid of OC cannot suggest ways the CR can be used to take out OC. Tell us how it can be done..there are plenty of pols who are telling us why it cannot be done.

Kudlow obviously has forgotten about MCC...although he touts that he was in the Regan adm at the time.

8 posted on 09/16/2013 1:58:25 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance........)
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To: Jim Robinson

Oh Hell yeah.


9 posted on 09/16/2013 2:00:00 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Jim Robinson

The gop faction of the uniparty wants boehnercare as badly as the ‘rats do.

There will be no defunding.


10 posted on 09/16/2013 2:03:26 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: Jim Robinson

When this is all over, Boehner will have a good cry and the country will be another trillion or two in debt.

Then we’ll go through this again in 18 months.


11 posted on 09/16/2013 2:04:58 PM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Interesting desire to defund obamacare...

BUT; the republican controlled and “lead” House HAS...
financially enabled Obama to do everything he has for all the time he has been in the White-Hut..

They backed him with all the funds he needed................
They COULD have easily cut him off at the knees...
by limiting ALL FUNDS to the Executive Branch Agencies..

BUT DIDN’T... you know.. ON PURPOSE...
The republican OWNED House of Reps... ARE PARTNERS with Obama..


12 posted on 09/16/2013 2:06:54 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

You nailed THAT. Bought off, they appear to be!

Crawling up the leg pant of our critters in congress to support insurrection (Lee, Cruz and Paul) is required of each of us.

These guys are counting on us.


13 posted on 09/16/2013 2:14:25 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Jim Robinson

The House is composed of Republicans and Democrats. All are subject to blackmail from an NSA empowered regime that knows everything about everyone. Kenycare will not be defunded.


14 posted on 09/16/2013 2:19:31 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: arthurus
They don't need threatening.

THEY WANT OBAMACARE/ROMNEYCARE.

Look at Romney's face. THEY LOVE IT.

Look at his laugh as it is imposed.


15 posted on 09/16/2013 2:24:13 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: arthurus
They don't need threatening.

THEY WANT OBAMACARE/ROMNEYCARE.

Look at Romney's face. THEY LOVE IT.

Look at his laugh as it is imposed.


16 posted on 09/16/2013 2:24:41 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Jim Robinson
HOW HOUSE CAN DEFUND OBAMACARE

Dump Boehner and Grow a pair! ...

17 posted on 09/16/2013 2:28:54 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Muzzie killing muzzie what's the downside and who am I to stop them ?)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I have a feeling the media is exempt, too.


18 posted on 09/16/2013 2:46:02 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Jim Robinson

Kill it before it kills us!!
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The beat down Obama’s put on the majority of us economically is working to his advantage... people simply cannot march on Washington or take part in protests ... I myself MUST drop insurance next year (Obamacare implemented or not) because it will consume 25% of our pretax income up from about 17% this year... and I’m not the 1% ...

If Obamacare goes in I must for the good of my family move abroad... I have family asetts (currently being wasted) that can be converted into a good business... but right now I can’t even afford the airfare.

If I have no say , control or input into righting this ship I must hide out in Galts Gulch until the lights come back on.


19 posted on 09/16/2013 2:49:34 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: Jim Robinson; TheOldLady; AllAmericanGirl44; ken5050; stephenjohnbanker; LUV W; Patty; itssme; ...

Ted Cruz Ping!


20 posted on 09/16/2013 2:51:18 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Neidermeyer

I almost wonder if it is worth letting it just blow up in America’s face in all its wonderful inglory. If there is a God (or people acknowledge Him again, rather) the Democrat brand name should be Mud for a century, for what they wished on this place.


21 posted on 09/16/2013 2:54:11 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Make your calls emails folks. Stand with Cruz/Lee/Graves.
Now is not the time to sit idle!


22 posted on 09/16/2013 2:59:53 PM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I don’t see how a small band of patriots can get this turned around... The rino cockroaches that live in D.C. are oblivious ,, they are running the clock out... and I have to believe that even if we get the rider we want it will somehow be lost through a printing accident or some other procedural trick to make it ineligible.

This is starting to look like the beginnings of “We the Living” where they thought their lives were in tatters stepping off the train in Petrograd and had absolutely no clue how bad it would be a few years down the road. I myself have “tea party” on my voter registration which means I will be ineligible for any gov’t job or benefit and will not even qualify for antibiotics at the local hospital.


23 posted on 09/16/2013 3:07:46 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: Jim Robinson

DEFUND! DEFUND! DEFUND!


24 posted on 09/16/2013 3:15:48 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: B.O. Plenty
Kudlow, with smug, arrogant certainty, says that OC cannot be defunded thru a continuing res.

Kudlow is wrong. Cruz is right.

Congress can't make a law that says Congress can't make a law. To do that requires amending the Constitution.

So, even though the CR is only supposed to be about discretionary spending, the Congress can still attach a rider expressly banning both discretionary and mandatory spending on ObamaCare. "Mandatory" is only a law, and laws can be changed. Actually, they could attach a rider repealing the whole damn thing outright!

Of course, in order for such as this to work, it has to get through the Senate, and Zero has to sign it. We know that's not going to happen. So then the government gets "shut down".

What happens next? Do Obama and the Senate get blamed for the shutdown? Or does the MSM manage swing public opinion towards blaming the Republicans for causing a shutdown in order to get rid of an overwhelmingly unpopular law?

What's the resolution? Obama caves? The GOP caves? Or more likely, a compromise: delay implementation a year or two, this time legally, since it's via legislation, not executive whim.

25 posted on 09/16/2013 3:24:22 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Izzy Dunne

I would say that the first step would be to vote in politicians with the will to do it and vote out politicians who do not have the will to do it.

But I think we are of like mind.


26 posted on 09/16/2013 3:33:03 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Neidermeyer
I have samaritanministries.org. It is not insurance. Christians paying each others medical bills and it is exempt from obamacare. I had kaiser at work and besides the costs of what I was paying, I do not want to pay for a womens abortion.
I PAY $165.00 a month. They send me the persons name and address and I put a check in a card and send it that person. I had to go to hospital. I thought my appendix burst. It turned out to be kidney stones. Told the hospital I did not have insurance and was paying cash.
The bill was $7000.00 and they took $3000.00 off because I am a cash payer. I turned in all the bills to samaritan ministries and they gave me a list of people's names that I would soon be receiving money from. I was ti check off each name as I received the money. It was a blessing as the cards with the money enclosed came from all over the united states.
The cards were from people in samaritan ministries and they wrote they were praying for me. Check out their website
27 posted on 09/16/2013 3:43:59 PM PDT by peggy48
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To: cynwoody
So then the government gets "shut down". What happens next?

I think that is the reason they do not want a shutdown. After a few weeks, when NOTHING changes, most working folks might decide we don't need so much federal government. Shutting down fedgov would show just how useless and wasteful fedzilla is. Most of it could cease to exist without anybody noticing.

28 posted on 09/16/2013 4:25:46 PM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: peggy48

That story is so American it hurts. That is how we did it for the first 150 years or so. Thanks for the nice story.


29 posted on 09/16/2013 4:28:51 PM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: Jim Robinson
Regulating healthcare is not an enumerated power granted to Congress in Article I Section VIII of the U.S. Constitution. It is therefore unconstitutional on the federal level as it is a power reserved to the states or to the people per the 10th Amendment.

Any action taken by the federal government, on healthcare, including defunding will also be unconstitutional. That fact aside, relying on the very branch to relinquish the power they usurped from the people is tantamount to expecting a thief to return property he stole from you. It will never happen. The people must take back that which was usurped from them by nullifying the unconstitutional act. See www.nullifynow.com for more information.
30 posted on 09/16/2013 4:35:18 PM PDT by Sherman Hale
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To: peggy48

Thanks for posting that. Looking forward to researching.


31 posted on 09/16/2013 5:04:04 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: Neidermeyer

Well for me... there’s a world out there that needs the gospel and all the political tomfoolery is but one symptom of it. I will share and preach the gospel by whatever means the good Lord lends to me. And if that gets a grip everything else will begin to come into place because there is an omnipotent Lord in charge here.

We got fat and happy with a “moral,” “Christianized” society and dropped the radical gospel power right on the floor. God had to let the former, “a form of religion but denying its power,” fail good and hard. Because God wants us to wake up to something better.

If you preach a gospel even remotely approaching that as powerful as what the 1st century had, people who have never seen that before are going to think you are full of yourself, because you will be so bold and full of God’s glory and full of faith. And it will be radical and there will be clear signs that God is blessing, and sin will wilt as people are radically saved.


32 posted on 09/16/2013 5:31:42 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Jane Long

Your welcome. I am happy with it.


33 posted on 09/16/2013 10:26:31 PM PDT by peggy48
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To: Jim Robinson; All

We need to contact our congresscritters, especially if they are Republicans (as too many of them are weenies). Time is running out.


34 posted on 09/17/2013 12:18:53 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
So basically, we are relying on an establishment of Democrats and Republicans who are exempt from Obamacare.

That's why I'm not relying on the Stupid Party. Don't participate in this. Don't pay the fine, don't sign up for the exchanges. Save your money, put it on a prepaid card, and get treated overseas. There are clinics in Hungary, Costa Rica, and Iceland, for example that have excellent facilities.

35 posted on 09/17/2013 4:30:17 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Save your money, put it on a prepaid card, and get treated overseas. There are clinics in Hungary, Costa Rica, and Iceland, for example that have excellent facilities.

AND you don't think our little buy king WON'T write an EO banning passports for going overseas for medical purposes?

36 posted on 09/17/2013 7:07:19 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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