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Three-quarters of Americans think teachers paid less than they really are
Washington Examiner ^ | 9-16-13 | ASHE SCHOW

Posted on 09/16/2013 2:31:16 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

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To: afraidfortherepublic

Too much in my opinion. Education degrees are ridiculous tripe - that includes the masters degrees.


41 posted on 09/16/2013 3:44:20 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: The Cajun
Teachers, cry me a river.

Where was I crying.

Like I said, I have relatives who are teachers, you ain't going to BS me.

I am not trying to BS you. I actually have 2 Bachelors degrees and 2 Masters. I was offering you the opportunity to walk a mile in my shoes. If you don't want to that is fine.

42 posted on 09/16/2013 3:45:35 PM PDT by verga (Liberals, homeschoolers and protestants, not all that different if you look closely enough)
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To: Mr Rogers

I was lucky to have some great teachers. In many cases they were the same ones who had taught my parents. They were local people and were invested in the education of kids they knew would grow up to be their neighbors.

One of my former teachers is long since retired and tutors my niece in math. He was at our family reunion summer because his wife and only daughter are both deceased and we invite him to family events.


43 posted on 09/16/2013 3:46:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: oldenuff2no

You don’t have a checkmate. You blabbed just as much drivel. Please. Sure, you have to have a college degree to become a teacher. Big deal. Most of them don’t have more than a 2.5 gpa

Every other person going through college and working in private sector have to perform lightyears better than a teacher or they get fired from their jobs.

Most teachers get 12 weeks off for the summer. Some administrators have to come back ‘early.’ Big deal they have to take some college courses during their time off. They get paid plenty for what they accomplish.

Just because you don’t think YOU are intellectually challenged, doesn’t mean you’re not.


44 posted on 09/16/2013 3:46:52 PM PDT by patriotsoul
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To: jeffc
Plenty of regular "teachers" are over paid........

Period.

And I'd gather plenty of teacher's are underpaid.

45 posted on 09/16/2013 3:47:16 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: verga

“I spent 3 weeks as Assistant Principal for summer school and then 2 weeks taking a class”

I am sure this was not in your salary and you were paid extra.

In Texas Principle in Middle School makes around $ 105K for example here is 3 without much looking.

Polytechnic HS Principal Hs $104,860
Southwest HS Principal Hs $104,860
Diamond HS Principal Hs $104,860

My information is from this website. When this was released in the local paper the Texas Public Employees went nuts and tried to remove it.

http://www.texastribune.org/library/data/government-employee-salaries/


46 posted on 09/16/2013 3:48:08 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: verga
Myth for you....probably.

Not so...for many.

47 posted on 09/16/2013 3:49:21 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Credit the poor-mouthing teachers’ unions for that.


48 posted on 09/16/2013 3:49:45 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: glorgau

We need more people in the classrooms who have actual skills. Neil Armstrong went into teaching after leaving NASA and I’m guessing he was a top notch teacher.

Hillsdale college has wisely dropped stand alone teaching related degrees. They now require a 4 year degree in something real first. The thinking is that we have too many teachers teaching things that they don’t really know themselves.


49 posted on 09/16/2013 3:50:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; I_Like_Spam
Are there any teaching nuns left? Anywhere?

Yes, there are. In fact I will be seeing a few of them when I head back to Brooklyn, NY in less than 2 weeks for my 35th HS class reunion.

50 posted on 09/16/2013 3:50:58 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: verga
I was offering you the opportunity to walk a mile in my shoes.

Don't want to walk a mile in your flip flops, I was busy working oilfield for 30 years.

I actually have 2 Bachelors degrees and 2 Masters.

Dang!!
You're one well educated person!
Can't hold a candle to you.

51 posted on 09/16/2013 3:51:33 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz......Nuff said.)
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To: verga

(Liberals, homeschoolers and protestants, not all that different if you look closely enough)

So Verga you believe homeschoolers and protestants are they same as liberals? Are you intimidated by homeschool parents?


52 posted on 09/16/2013 3:58:49 PM PDT by happyhomemaker (Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer. Rom 12:12)
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To: oldenuff2no

This country runs on trucks. I’d say there is a huge responsibility inherent in the job. Drivers are entrusted with 33K plus pound, for class 8, vehicles traveling down the highway, and in our cities. Everything you don’t make from scratch in your life spent some time on a truck. A teacher doesn’t pay attention in class for 15 seconds, maybe some spitballs get thrown. A driver doesn’t pay attention for 15 seconds, people get hurt. A driver has to make his route/delivery/appointment in the middle of winter, he won’t get an off-day. There is much more responsibility for a truck driver than you give them credit for.

You do realize how your statement looks, of only 10 weeks, or more likely 8 or 9 weeks of vacation? There are those of us who do the continuing education thing, certifications,, or more often than not work on advanced degrees while working 50 plus hours per week. This while having only 2-3 weeks of vacation?

I see nothing in your post that dismisses the fact teachers are not the poorly paid victims we are told they are.


53 posted on 09/16/2013 3:58:51 PM PDT by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

They should be happy they are not paid what they are worth.


54 posted on 09/16/2013 4:00:59 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Don't blame me for McCain.)
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To: cripplecreek
I point to truck drivers as an example of people who are underpaid.

Unlike teachers, truck drivers are paid what their labor is worth in the marketplace.

55 posted on 09/16/2013 4:04:41 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Don't blame me for McCain.)
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To: Osage Orange
Plenty of regular "teachers" are over paid........ Period.

Agreed. Some "teachers" shouldn't be paid, or teaching! Rename them Liberal Indoctrinators and you'd be closer to the truth.

56 posted on 09/16/2013 4:05:18 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Gene Eric
You’re an idiot.

Absolute proof of one's intelligence and ability to have or support a factual true argument. I rest my case.

57 posted on 09/16/2013 4:05:51 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: Osage Orange
And I'd gather plenty of teacher's are underpaid.

Obviously not English teachers.

58 posted on 09/16/2013 4:07:52 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Don't blame me for McCain.)
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To: oldenuff2no
Next do you expect us to believe truck drivers have as much responsibility as teachers.

Define responsibility.

Truck drivers have hundreds, thousands, millions of lives that they could snuff out in an instant. Year after year, after year. You don't think those responsibilities are worthy? Are you capable of that?

What's the track record of "teachers" screwing up kids? Pretty high..from what I read. But not killing them...so much.

Maybe you don't think the 18 yr old kid without a "degree" in the military doesn't have as much "responsibility" as you either. He/she is just trying to keep our butt's safe.

Of course "teachers" know everything...about everything. While enjoying their 8-10 weeks off a year...as you pointed out. Maybe doing some CEU crap along the way....

Okay let me just come clean....I think most teachers are a joke....Of course I think most any professionals in any profession are generally a joke. : ) I'm in the medical biz....I know Doc's who are jokes. Nurses who are jokes. Therapists who are jokes.

So...I guess my point is...you can crow about teachers...and get your jolly's bagging on truck drivers, but that doesn't mean your "better" than them!!! PERIOD.

59 posted on 09/16/2013 4:08:49 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: verga
(Liberals, homeschoolers and protestants, not all that different if you look closely enough)

Your name fits.

60 posted on 09/16/2013 4:09:27 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Don't blame me for McCain.)
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