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Navy Yard shooting: AR-15, back in the news -- briefly
CNN ^ | 9/17/2013 | Ben Brumfield, CNN

Posted on 09/17/2013 2:14:44 AM PDT by carriage_hill

It has been called the most popular rifle in America, and it's back in the spotlight after Monday's shooting at the Navy Yard: The AR-15.

Authorities said when Aaron Alexis unleashed a barrage of bullets Monday, he was carrying a rifle and a handgun. But he did most of the shooting with the weapon used in so many other rampages that shocked the nation:

List of 4 other shootings.

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With Monday's incident, the gun will likely be in the crosshairs again. And again, it's likely nothing will change.

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(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; aaronalexis; alexis; ar15; banglist; guncontrol; gungrabbers; navyyard; navyyardshooting; washingtonnavyyard
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The gun-grabbers were already Twittering about this BS yesterday, before the incident was even over. Now, the "opinion pieces" and "editorials" will start again, and "Lunch Bucket Joe" Biden will probably resurrect his "shotgun theory" of firing-off 2 from the balcony.

Even though the America-hating lib-dem idiots and RINO traitors don't have the votes to kill our precious 2nd Amendment, this tragedy will be played for all the can get out of it.

Bad, bad AR-15!

1 posted on 09/17/2013 2:14:45 AM PDT by carriage_hill
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To: mylife; MaxMax; 50cal Smokepole; Randy Larsen; lolhelp; waterhill; Clint N. Suhks; Envisioning; ...

Ping to “Bad AR-15” articles starting to appear...


2 posted on 09/17/2013 2:15:54 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill

It would be better to ban crazy ass liberal shooters.


4 posted on 09/17/2013 2:33:49 AM PDT by Salamander (Blue Oyster Cult Will Be The Soundtrack For The Revolution.....)
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To: carriage_hill
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5 posted on 09/17/2013 2:33:53 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: carriage_hill

He only had the shotgun when he arrived...he got the pistol and the AR from guards he shot on the way in...

sheesh....the libs will say ANYTHNG...


6 posted on 09/17/2013 2:36:16 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: NoLibZone

Whoa there! Now that nice young man could have been the POTUS’s son for Crissake! Watch what you’re saying...


7 posted on 09/17/2013 2:37:04 AM PDT by Netz
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To: carriage_hill

Guess I’m finally going to have to break down and buy one before it’s too late.


8 posted on 09/17/2013 2:37:11 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: carriage_hill

Wait! I thought he was found with a shotgun and a handgun? Which one of these is now an AR-15?


9 posted on 09/17/2013 2:37:56 AM PDT by Big Giant Head
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To: NoLibZone

Personally, I’m past that point.


10 posted on 09/17/2013 2:44:24 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Salamander

Ban libs, too.

Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.


11 posted on 09/17/2013 2:46:38 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill

I guarantee you if others were allowed to carry his death spree would have been ended rather quickly.


12 posted on 09/17/2013 2:46:59 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The Adam Lanzas of the world are probably lined-up and buying it by the bagloads. Not being a video game player, I don’t know what the attraction is.


13 posted on 09/17/2013 2:50:02 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill
The AR-15 and the pistol were taken from law-enforcement guards in the facility.

Do they intend to ban AR-15's in the hands of law enforcement, too?

14 posted on 09/17/2013 2:50:26 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: carriage_hill; All

My local news in Fort Worth is saying he entered the ship yard with a shotgun then stole someone’s AR.


15 posted on 09/17/2013 2:50:59 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Crim

They’re not even reporting *how* he got it; just that he *had* it. The facts don’t matter.


16 posted on 09/17/2013 2:51:06 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Crim

Okay. Ban any Government employee from having an AR issued as a weapon.


17 posted on 09/17/2013 2:52:25 AM PDT by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms.....")
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To: carriage_hill

My understanding is that he acquired the weapon from someone he had killed with a sawed off shotgun and that someone was a LEO of some sorts which means it was probably an M16, not an AR15. I could be wrong but if I’m not, we need to nip this in the bud. There’s a big difference between AR15 and M16 and we shouldn’t allow the media to further disparage the AR15 if an AR15 wasn’t actually used.


18 posted on 09/17/2013 2:52:33 AM PDT by RC one
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To: Lazamataz

That would probably save a lot of dogs.


19 posted on 09/17/2013 2:52:57 AM PDT by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms.....")
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To: BigCinBigD

Better hurry; my local FFL said yesterday (when he called about my Beowulf .50 cal being “modified” and ready to pick-up), that he expects an upsurge in demand and price.


20 posted on 09/17/2013 2:53:07 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Crim
....he got the pistol and the AR from guards he shot on the way in...

The government calls them "Personal Defense Weapons" [That's what the government called out in its Fed Biz Ops ad when the DHS wanted to order a few thousand AR M-4s for their jackboots.....]

21 posted on 09/17/2013 2:53:55 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: RC one

It was probably an M-4 AR-type Carbine he hooked off the dead guard....yep, much different with auto...


22 posted on 09/17/2013 2:55:42 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Big Giant Head

From Fox News:

“Two federal officials told the Associated Press that Alexis had an AR-15 assault rifle, a shotgun and a handgun that he took from a police officer at the scene.”

The 12ga MKA is on an AR platform:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo4yO8pHvoA


23 posted on 09/17/2013 3:00:02 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Gaffer

This needs to be answered. The AR15 has a bad enough reputation, we don’t need this adding to it and providing further justification to the leftists to ban it. The media will certainly attempt to confuse the facts just like they said Holmes was wearing a bullet proof vest when he was actually wearing a nylon tactical vest incapable stopping a pellet gun.


24 posted on 09/17/2013 3:00:13 AM PDT by RC one
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To: Lazamataz

was it even an AR15? LEOs are authorized carry M16s especially when guarding sensitive areas.


25 posted on 09/17/2013 3:01:10 AM PDT by RC one
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To: Vendome

Agreed; 2 or 3 CCW/CHL holders would have ended that incident much sooner. 10 or 15 would have ended it very quickly.


26 posted on 09/17/2013 3:01:53 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: RC one

Any time the media sees a vest equipment carrier, a ‘plate’ carrier or nearly any type of vest, they call it a bullet proof vest. It is next to impossible to overcome their deliberate, intentional mischaracterizations. They aren’t interested in the truth, they are interested in images, icons and feigned remorse/outrage at the violence.

It is their nature because they are ghouls.


27 posted on 09/17/2013 3:03:25 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Lazamataz

They want to turn every facility in America into a gun free, ‘killing zone’.


28 posted on 09/17/2013 3:03:56 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill

Far be it for CNN to actually delve into the facts....

I guess someone must do it for them.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/16/20522196-gunman-kills-at-least-12-at-washington-navy-yard-gathering-weapons-along-the-way?lite


29 posted on 09/17/2013 3:04:45 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: DainBramage

I still can’t find any 2 news stories which agree on what happened. Most don’t/won’t even say.


30 posted on 09/17/2013 3:05:12 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: RC one

The articles that even mention it all cal it an AR-15. I thought the Military all carried M-16s. Big difference.


31 posted on 09/17/2013 3:07:42 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill

Sweet cherry pie!


32 posted on 09/17/2013 3:09:17 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: carriage_hill

If I were there it would have ended very quickly.

I would have pulled my one of girlfriends, a Kimber Tac II or Kimber Eclipse Target II(twins) and emptied it into him, reloaded , walked over to hs body and he likely would flinch forcing me to empty the New mag in his head.


33 posted on 09/17/2013 3:09:32 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: carriage_hill

Liberal anti woman logic. Because a black guy does the shooting we ban weapons for women...


34 posted on 09/17/2013 3:10:01 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: carriage_hill

Ear witnesses reported hearing sets of 3 shots in a row “pow, pow,pow”, that sounds like a three round burst fired from an M16A2. Bottom line is the guy liberated the weapon from security guard or a cop using a shotgun. Are they gonna ban shotguns now? or just ban M16s in the hands of cops, security agents, and soldiers?


35 posted on 09/17/2013 3:12:33 AM PDT by RC one
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To: ScottinVA

Of the 4 writers listed, usually Jim Miklaszewski and Pete Williams are the most ‘accurate’, for that lib-rag network.


36 posted on 09/17/2013 3:12:36 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Nice piece. I’d probably drop it down to regular 2 3/4” .00 buckshot shells, instead of HD 3” loads.


37 posted on 09/17/2013 3:15:31 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Lazamataz

It’s my birthday today. If you lived near me I’d have drinks and a cigar with you.

Then we chase chicks.

Or you could sit back and admire my work,since you are in a committed relationship.


38 posted on 09/17/2013 3:17:31 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

I also carry either a full-size Kimber 1911 Eclipse Target II or a Kimber 1911 Stainless Custom TLE II, Wilson Combat mags, 230gr HPs, with 2 dbl extra mag holsters.


39 posted on 09/17/2013 3:19:26 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: RC one

That’s what I first thought when I heard the initial reports in the morning. If they could get their perverted way, they’d ban all guns. Except for their bodyguards and friends.


40 posted on 09/17/2013 3:22:16 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill

So, time to disarm the military?


41 posted on 09/17/2013 3:22:20 AM PDT by Big Giant Head
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To: carriage_hill

I use Winchester SPX1 or Hornady JHP 230 grn as well.


42 posted on 09/17/2013 3:23:47 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome
The only committed relationship I am in, is one with my Higher Power. I say we chase down a couple of low-mileage pit-woofies and build us a memory*.

* Credit for phrase goes to 'Sonny', a bit character in ST-TNG 115, "The Neutral Zone".

43 posted on 09/17/2013 3:23:59 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: ScottinVA
Far be it for CNN to actually delve into the facts....

I guess someone must do it for them.


It's ok. This is such a clear and egregious case of CNN, other select media outlets and politicians (DiFi) completely ignoring the facts that in the coming days or weeks there's going to be ample opportunity to hammer them on their demagoguery.

I'm willing to bet that the NRA is absolutely salivating over how they've jumped the gun in trying to perpetuate the narrative and have the press releases and advert scripts pointing out their duplicity ready to go.

This isn't Newtown, where the gun-rights side is going to have to fight an uphill battle. The gun-grabbers are going to take it in the face with a 2x4 that they handed to us ...
44 posted on 09/17/2013 3:25:33 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: carriage_hill

This whole thing, too soon after the Colorado victories, and too soon are we being “informed” about the supposed shooter, that it stinks like 3 day old fish!

A guy, in the Navy Yard, blasting off an AR15?? Really??
By the way that same supposed Navy yard has been portrayed for years on the TV show “NCIS”, there WASN’T a camera SOMEWHERE that wasn’t being watched? Really??

“The shooter has a security clearance.” They have signs stating that your bags you carry WILL be searched upon entry. Yet, SOMEHOW, this shooter secreted a 30 inch long rifle, made of metals that trip detectors, into the complex?? Really??

Mr. Obama, this is another one of your ‘hail mohammed’ football passes.

FLAG DOWN ON THE PLAY AT THE 10 YD. LINE, NO FIRST DOWN, 8 YARDS TO GO!


45 posted on 09/17/2013 3:26:28 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: carriage_hill

bump


46 posted on 09/17/2013 3:31:25 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Lazamataz

You’re in Arizona?


47 posted on 09/17/2013 3:33:10 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: carriage_hill

One guy with any kind of personal weapon immobilizing 3000 American military personnel for eight hours make Audie Murphy and Alvin York sound like Richard Simmons and Pee Wee Herman. l make no claim to being a tactical genius but it passes my poor understanding how our military prevails in any situation. If we trust the Navy with aircraft carriers, the Air Force with B-1 bombers, the Army with tanks and the Marines with, well with Marines, we should be able to trust at least some of these folks with side arms.

Maybe I’m just ranting.


48 posted on 09/17/2013 3:35:30 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Crim

Is that true?


49 posted on 09/17/2013 3:40:30 AM PDT by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: Vendome

Yes. In a little town called Atlanta, Georgia.


50 posted on 09/17/2013 3:50:09 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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