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Officials: Gunman treated for mental health issues
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Posted on 09/17/2013 5:12:46 AM PDT by Perdogg

U.S. law enforcement officials are telling The Associated Press that the Navy contractor identified as the gunman in the mass shootings at the Washington Navy Yard had been suffering a host of serious mental issues, including paranoia and a sleep disorder. He also had been hearing voices in his head, the officials said.

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1 posted on 09/17/2013 5:12:46 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

Omg this country has gone insane! Although I knew they would go with the lone nutter story.


2 posted on 09/17/2013 5:14:11 AM PDT by seeker41 (take your country back by whatever means necessary)
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To: Perdogg

Could one of the “voices in his head” be that of Ayman al Zawahiri who recently called for attacks inside the American homeland?


3 posted on 09/17/2013 5:16:05 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." - Glenn Beck)
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To: All

By noon, there will be ads running in VA blaming this on Ken Cuccinelli, the AG and Republican candidate for gov.


4 posted on 09/17/2013 5:17:58 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: txrangerette

This is serious business.


5 posted on 09/17/2013 5:18:51 AM PDT by Domangart
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To: seeker41

Does seem to be a loner. Does seem to be a nut.

That does not preclude that he was also very useful to the jihad inside America.


6 posted on 09/17/2013 5:19:15 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Perdogg

Why was he not institutionalized much less able to get a top security pass?


7 posted on 09/17/2013 5:19:57 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Perdogg

But, according to a commentator on Fox&Friends, he just recently got clearance to enter the Navy facility and was supposed to be starting a new job at the facility next week.

Commentator wondered how the guy managed to slip through the security background check, that the gun firing incident in Texas should have been enough to raise red flags.


8 posted on 09/17/2013 5:20:05 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: Perdogg

How much damage has this traitor and his HANDLERS
(ignored, of course, like with HASAN) done unseen?

On computers?

Against others, unknown at the moment?

Girl Scouts have more security and judgment.


9 posted on 09/17/2013 5:20:29 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Perdogg

They “treated” him for his mental disorder alright...


10 posted on 09/17/2013 5:20:52 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: AU72
Why was he not institutionalized much less able to get a top security pass?

I love Reagan but he was not perfect. Reagan's fault.

Institutionalization of the insane is now voluntary. It takes a court to get someone committed. It is really hard to do now.

11 posted on 09/17/2013 5:23:59 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: TomGuy
hassan was begging his superiors the do something... he admitted he was a jihadist and hated the military... He ranted and raved online and off... still they coddled him until he murdered at Fort hood.
12 posted on 09/17/2013 5:26:30 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: AU72

First, his clearance was secret only....which means they just checked to see if he’d been arrested recently. Arrests after a number of years....probably don’t count these days.

Second, I’ll say generally that no one....publicly wants to deal with the institution of folks. You can’t find judges or political folks who talk positive on doing this.

I’d say in the state of Alabama where I grew up....forty thousand folks ought to be in a mental facility, but they aren’t, and we just have to deal with crazy uncle Leon or mad aunt Wanda.

My humble bet. The Pentagon will quietly ask for a review of all civilian guards (to include contracted folks). A dozen will be discovered as drug-users or unstable...quietly being released. I would imagine that US military personnel will quietly ask if they can bring weapons onto a site and keep them at their desks. “No” will be the answer....but some senior officers will start to create mini-arsenals known only to a few folks....in safes and vaults...and prepare for the next episode.


13 posted on 09/17/2013 5:26:33 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: AU72
Because the Liberals closed the insane asylums back in the 1960s.
14 posted on 09/17/2013 5:27:28 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: AU72

Who would have “institutionalized” him?

Unless a person is considered dangerous they aren’t going to be institutionalized.

There are many, many people running around with this similar profile...


15 posted on 09/17/2013 5:27:47 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." - Glenn Beck)
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To: AU72; mickie
"Why wasn't he institutionalized?"

Just try to get someone institutionalized in this country without personal consent.

This concept was started by the libs and that's why there's been so many nutcases running loose across the fruity plain during the past decades.

Leni

16 posted on 09/17/2013 5:28:13 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: txrangerette

That didn’t used to be the case, did it? Thought in my youth-many years ago-we kept our nuts locked up.


17 posted on 09/17/2013 5:29:54 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: txrangerette

I do consider jihadis and most mooslimes to be insane and demon possessed.


18 posted on 09/17/2013 5:30:10 AM PDT by seeker41 (take your country back by whatever means necessary)
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To: Perdogg

This man being called a nut went to Thailand I understand.

Thailand has Islamic terrorism in its midst, orchestrated by the Muslims in the southern part of the country near the Malaysian border.

Lets investigate the Thai connections more.....

By the way, Lee Harvey Oswald was a nut, too.

A left wing nut to be exact.

Oswald went to the Soviet Union and came back to the United States.


19 posted on 09/17/2013 5:30:41 AM PDT by Nextrush (BALANCED BUDGET NOW, PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN,CHANGE I BELIEVE IN)
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To: central_va

no, aclu fault


20 posted on 09/17/2013 5:32:05 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Nextrush

And didn’t the Tsarnaev dude go to Chechnya for a time before he went off in Boston? Seeing a pattern here.


21 posted on 09/17/2013 5:34:47 AM PDT by mtrott
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To: Perdogg
And, and, and my Gaydar just pegged on this guy.
22 posted on 09/17/2013 5:35:09 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Perdogg

News flash. All Muslims have mental health issues. Duhhhh...


23 posted on 09/17/2013 5:35:48 AM PDT by Whats-wrong-with-the-truth
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To: Perdogg

**LIVE UPDATES** Shooter’s Employer Says Background ‘Thoroughly’ Vetted (on Breitbart)


24 posted on 09/17/2013 5:36:15 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Perdogg
As the facts are coming out, it doesn't look like a "false flag". It seems to be yet another case of government not doing the stuff it's supposed to do. After general discharge from the military he has an ID that just lets him walk onto a base? With documented PTSD issues and gun complaints in his past?

Meanwhile, the feds are doing the job that's more important to them. We should probably give a friendly shoutout to whomever is in charge of spying on conservative websites (good morning, fed) instead of identifying real weaknesses, keeping invaders out of the country, and yet again having an unstable person with a security clearance commit mass murder. Maybe we shouldn't be supporting and arming terrorists in the ME and instead worry about the US becoming more stable.

25 posted on 09/17/2013 5:36:22 AM PDT by grania
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To: AU72

Affirmative action hire I predict


26 posted on 09/17/2013 5:37:10 AM PDT by Josa
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To: Nextrush

Agreed. A month is suspicious for a guy getting a gubermint check for disability for a problem with his feet!


27 posted on 09/17/2013 5:38:31 AM PDT by seeker41 (take your country back by whatever means necessary)
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To: txrangerette

It’s virtually impossible to get a person involuntarily (or even voluntarily) institutionalized for more than a few days now, even when they have demonstrated that they are a threat to others or themselves. I don’t know what it takes to be considered dangerous enough to be institutionalized more than the 72 hours they usually permit.

That said, it appears that this guy’s violence issues (like shooting out the tires of somebody he said “disrespected” him and shooting into his neighbor’s ceiling because she had complained about his loud music) were all resolved in such a way that they didn’t appear on his record. The charges were dropped by the prosecutor in the second case, and in the first, they were just reduced to a misdemeanor.

Sort of like what happened with Trayvon Martin: anything to avoid giving him a record and making the police department or prosecutor’s office look like they had too many black arrests.

He was apparently very aggressive in proclaiming his offended status, too, something that seemed to extend to the entire family, because according to one person interviewed, his sister acted exactly the same way and was known for complaining that people in her apartment complex were “dissing” her by parking in certain places, etc. I think he had rather a chip on his shoulder, in addition to being nuts, and that more will come out about this. He reminds me of the LIRR gunman years ago.


28 posted on 09/17/2013 5:39:52 AM PDT by livius
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To: Josa

Affirmative action hire I predict


Highly likely. They needed a black employee for some quota and he was the “best” available.


29 posted on 09/17/2013 5:40:27 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Perdogg

The shooter has likely had mental illness issues for a long
time but they were borderline. He joined the navy and like
a lot of people in the service the experience didn’t cure
him but it did give him some skills....some discipline.
Not enough to make him stable and safe but enough so that
he could hide his instability most of the time. His issues
eventually cost him his navy career as he was mustered out with a general discharge instead of an honorable one. That
along with other insults to his psyche...both real and perceived likely lead him to plot out his revenge. To call him crazy though is foolhardy....he was mentally ill but
still had the mental acuity to plan and pull off a successful assault of a federal military facility with
a high level of carnage. And this is based on what we know.....imagine what they aren’t going to tell us.


30 posted on 09/17/2013 5:41:49 AM PDT by nvscanman
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To: AU72
"Why was he not institutionalized much less able to get a top security pass?"

That's the wrong question. The "proper" question is: How was he able to get a firearm? We need tougher gun control laws!! /sarc

31 posted on 09/17/2013 5:43:27 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: Perdogg

Why was he given clearance? Because of his skin color? I would SUE SUE SUE!!!


32 posted on 09/17/2013 5:46:04 AM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: Perdogg
Schizoid, paranoic, bi-polar (manic/depressive) often runs in families. Usually treated at home with medication (if the person TAKES the meds as prescribed......that's another story).

Leni

33 posted on 09/17/2013 5:46:35 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: txrangerette

Whether schizophrenic or whatever, sounds more like our usual mass murderer profile: young, male, mentally ill, on prescribed drugs and deep into violent video games.

This is the issue we should be dealing with, though in practicality it results in less loss of life annually than, what, lightning strikes or some other type of freak accident.


34 posted on 09/17/2013 5:47:27 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: TomGuy

Or the gun incident in Seattle, or the sabotage of a gas tank, or...


35 posted on 09/17/2013 5:48:24 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Perdogg

So.... the mental health NICS checks are not in place, right? Because dude bought a legal shotgun.


36 posted on 09/17/2013 5:49:08 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Perdogg

I am not a fan of giving politicians the authority to decide who is or isn’t sane enough to have a gun.


37 posted on 09/17/2013 5:49:43 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Perdogg

Okay....What kind of meds was he on?


38 posted on 09/17/2013 5:50:00 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: mtrott

There does seem to be a ‘void’ in Alexis’s recent residential history.

He lived in Ft. Worth until about 6 months ago.

I have not heard anyone say where he resided currently.

His brother-in-law said that the family had very little contact with him, and the b-i-l said he had never met Aaron Alexis.


39 posted on 09/17/2013 5:50:03 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: lodi90

Holder is now going after employers for screening out felons, because of the disparate impact on blacks—and this guy didn’t even have a felony conviction.


40 posted on 09/17/2013 5:50:23 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: lodi90

I think we have a bingo here, yes an affirmative hiring.

There were so many red flags here that I would never have this guy working for me. Let’s begin with the general discharge. I don’t know how the security forms read these days but there used to be a question: were you ever discharged from the military for less than honorable reasons. General discharges had to be explained. Another question: were you ever arrested, taken into custody or whatever for any offense, if so, explain.

These were probably removed as being too inquisitive, surely for security reasons, no one should be disallowed from a job, Yeah, right.

Unfortunately a “secret” clearance I think only requires a national agency check and a few written inquiries like former employers. Anything above requires a full field background check which takes time but in cases like this would have shaken out this scum before he got to the gate. Then again, that was years ago, today he is from a protected group and that trumps all.


41 posted on 09/17/2013 5:50:40 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: TomGuy

I believe it was said that he’d just moved into a hotel in the area within the month.


42 posted on 09/17/2013 5:51:46 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Perdogg

LOCK UP THE CRIMINALLY INSANE. Quite trying to establish a “litmus test” for gun ownership.

Crazy f*&#s can kill with poison (e.g. tampered Tylonol killers), cars, knives, boxcutters, pillows, etc.

QUIT SAYING THEY ARE FUNCTIONAL. Clearly they have malfunctions. If they cannot be held accountable for their actions by reason of insanity, then they should lose the ability to roam freely. PERIOD DOT BINGO.


43 posted on 09/17/2013 5:52:18 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Nextrush

They’re saying he studied Buddhism....Do we really know that or is that what he told everyone. If I wanted to be a Muslim “under the wire”, Thailand would be a good choice.


44 posted on 09/17/2013 5:52:49 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: 9YearLurker

The LIBs got rid of insane asylums because they anticipated that they eventually belonged there...all LIBs.


45 posted on 09/17/2013 5:52:57 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Perdogg

I don’t buy it.

Clearance with a mental history like that?


46 posted on 09/17/2013 5:56:57 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Perdogg
Of course.
True or not, this is just in time to ramp up the background check zombies.
47 posted on 09/17/2013 5:58:46 AM PDT by grobdriver
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Thanks to one flew over the cuckoos nest? How about the end to nuclear power plants thanks to the china syndrome? LOL! There used to be a real big nut house between Slidell and Mandeville near Lake Pontchatrain and now it’s a state park.


48 posted on 09/17/2013 6:00:10 AM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: Perdogg

This is code for he was a registered Democrat and Obama supporter....


49 posted on 09/17/2013 6:00:24 AM PDT by stockpirate (My great, great, great, great, grandfather fought in the Revolution, stand up patriots......)
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To: central_va
Reagan's fault.

Um, no. Do your homework, and learn about the ACLU role in releasing the mentally ill unto the streets.

50 posted on 09/17/2013 6:00:30 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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