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Exclusive: Embattled Syria Expert Elizabeth O'Bagy Says She Made 'Many Mistakes'
Daily Beast ^ | Sept. 16, 2013 | Josh Rogin

Posted on 09/17/2013 5:28:22 AM PDT by Enchante

Her research on Syria influenced key lawmakers—but Dr. Elizabeth O’Bagy wasn’t who she said she was. For the first time, she tells Josh Rogin she was never even in a PhD program.

Elizabeth O’Bagy, the Syria researcher at the center of a week-long controversy surrounding her academic credentials and her work with the Syrian opposition, admitted for the first time to The Daily Beast she was never enrolled in a Ph.D. program despite representations she made to the press and multiple organizations for whom she worked.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: congress; democrats; elizabethobagy; kerry; liberalism; liberals; middleeast; obama; syria
another fraud.... the "expert" who has been flacking for the Syrian rebels not only did not have the claimed PhD but there is no "PhD dissertation" submitted or even written, she was never even in a PhD program!
1 posted on 09/17/2013 5:28:22 AM PDT by Enchante
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To: All

I’m not one to worship credentials, what matters is someone’s knowledge, experience, and judgment.... but still, when someone fakes credentials that always reflects badly upon ..... knowledge, experience, and judgment.


2 posted on 09/17/2013 5:29:41 AM PDT by Enchante
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To: Enchante

Kerry’s expert


3 posted on 09/17/2013 5:31:28 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Enchante

Elizabeth O’Blarney.


4 posted on 09/17/2013 5:33:17 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Enchante

There are three curious pieces to this story. First, she actually did have a bachelors and masters degree. No argument over that. Second, by European standards....it’s hard to claim a status as an “expert” unless you have that doctor title with you. I think this is bogus and there are thousands of experts in the US who never attended college, or simply have a two-year degree from some community college. Third....it would be nice to know where exactly she made this decision to call herself “doctor”, and if this was related to some political appointment of sorts.


5 posted on 09/17/2013 5:36:04 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Enchante

My tagline was invented upon reading about this “expert” for McQueeg.


6 posted on 09/17/2013 5:40:45 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

excellent tagline!!


7 posted on 09/17/2013 5:42:21 AM PDT by Enchante
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To: Enchante

She’s another example of somebody who got by not with knowledge, but by telling people what they wanted to hear.


8 posted on 09/17/2013 5:44:02 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Enchante

The damage has been done. Her bizarre claim that the al Qaeda atrocity committing anti Christian rebels are a moderate credible alternative to Assad is now embedded in the US government and the MSM working consensus on Syria. Once a lie becomes accepted, inept strategically disastrous policy follows.


9 posted on 09/17/2013 5:44:05 AM PDT by allendale
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To: Enchante

Remember Mark Fuhrman’s lying about using the “N Word” in the OJ Trial? His subsequent testimony was thusly declared null and void. O’Bagy told a real whopper about her academic accomplishments. Therefore, her Syrian Reporting is also highly suspect? A liar is a liar is a liar!


10 posted on 09/17/2013 5:49:39 AM PDT by zbogwan2
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To: pepsionice

This reminds me of the old Three Stooges gag. Is there a doctor in the house?

In all seriousness, this is the sad state we now find ourselves. Last week, it appeared that she had a doctorate dissertation in that she was in the process of defending. In other words, she was on her way to getting the sheepskin. Now, we find out that it was a total fabrication. Shame on her. I’m guessing she did it for the same reason a lot of Americans do it. To get a job they want.

Personally, I don’t care how much research she does on Syria. While the situation is tragic and sad, it does not mean America should be getting involved militarily.


11 posted on 09/17/2013 5:50:34 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Admin Moderator

mods, I searched before posting this article, but it looks like Don-o posted it while I was still preparing my post, 3 minutes before I posted this one (8:25 vs. 8:28).

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3067648/posts

Sorry for the duplication.....


12 posted on 09/17/2013 5:55:04 AM PDT by Enchante
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To: moovova
Elizabeth O’Blarney.

Elizabeth O'Bagofshite.

13 posted on 09/17/2013 5:55:25 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: pepsionice

Ask Senator Elizabeth Warren, ‘Rat of Mass, if any of that matters to low-information voters.


14 posted on 09/17/2013 5:56:03 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: allendale

I’m curious. If this woman’s statements, based on her “expertise”, influenced government policy and MSM reporting of the “news” how many deaths can be claimed to begin with her and because of her?
To steal a quote..”She lied, Syrians died”
Or worse, “Kerry lied, HOPE died.”


15 posted on 09/17/2013 5:56:49 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf

This liar and degenerate isn’t “embattled”. She is an admitted liar.


16 posted on 09/17/2013 6:00:18 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Travis McGee

If Obama can be President and Elizabeth Warren can be a US Senator, then standards are already gone.... it’s true.


17 posted on 09/17/2013 6:01:29 AM PDT by Enchante
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To: Enchante
O’Bagy, whose work on the Syrian opposition was hailed by Secretary of State John Kerry and Sen. John McCain (R-AZ),

So they were going to lie us into war. Just makes Putin look more like the good guy in this conflict.

18 posted on 09/17/2013 6:01:39 AM PDT by McGruff (No wars for Arab pipelines!)
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To: allendale

Makes you wonder how many other policy decisions have been influenced by fraudulent “experts.”


19 posted on 09/17/2013 6:02:49 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Truth/Lies; Liberty/Tyranny--WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE??)
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To: Night Hides Not

“Elizabeth O’Bagofshite.”

Even better...


20 posted on 09/17/2013 6:03:34 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Enchante

I just posted this on the Daily Beast comments, where I sometimes troll. “Ask Senator Elizabeth Warren, Dem Senator from Mass, if lying about your bio or credentials (to become the affirmative-action “Native American” woman at Harvard etc), or plagiarizing right and left, will matter in the long run. Ms. Pow Wow Chow is now a member of our nation’s highest legislative body. Pocahontas Warren lied and laughed her way to success with the nation’s low-information voters, who could not care less about truth vs. lies as a basic test of character.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/09/16/embattled-syria-expert-was-never-in-phd-program.html


21 posted on 09/17/2013 6:05:17 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Memo to Elizabeth: it’s a good thing you’re just another well-intentioned liberal. Had you described yourself as a conservative, you would have been subjected to far greater scrutiny on your prevarications. For example, Matt Lauer would be interviewing former boyfriends of yours, getting them to admit you faked orgasms during sex.


22 posted on 09/17/2013 6:17:52 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Wrapped in an attractive package...


23 posted on 09/17/2013 6:18:32 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: allendale; sickoflibs; GOPJ; Grampa Dave; stephenjohnbanker; thouworm; ken5050
O'Bagy's bizarre claim that anti-Christian Syrian rebels are a "moderate" "credible" alternative to Assad is now embedded in the US government and the MSM working consensus on Syria. Once a lie becomes accepted, inept strategically disastrous policy follows.

N-i-c-e take.

A-N-O-T-H-E-R OBMA SCREW-UP Obama has an aversion to truth-telling. He calculatedly seeks out people to shill for him---to tailor "expert advice" to fit his pre-determined goals. These people are all frauds, hiding partisanship as they kneel in obeisance to Obama. It is truly appalling that O'Bagy influenced policymakers that could have resulted in another bloody, costly Mideast war.

WEIRD DEM SCIENCE O'Bagy, Susan Rice and Samantha Powers all look like they were hatched from the same bad seed.

24 posted on 09/17/2013 6:18:53 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Enchante
So Obama is ready to go to war on the word of some lying ruling elite POS. I want my country back.
25 posted on 09/17/2013 6:19:44 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: All
SHOCK AND DISGUST--neocons are STILL given status to start wars after the disasters they got us into in Iraq and Afghanistan. Neocon Kagan said he "stands by" O'Bagy's fraudulent research. Note well: Syria has always been on the secret neocon invasion list.

SUMMING UP: We reside in a superpower---a nuclear-armed nation---now lead by Obama's tight-knit, sap-happy narcissistic coterie, who were easily bamboozled by a grad student.

==============================================

Oh, I almost forgot---Our Savior, Obama, is a Nobel Peace Prize winner whose holy grail is to bring democracy and peace to the globe.

(waiting for hysterical laughter to die down)

26 posted on 09/17/2013 6:22:23 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

It’s amazing to me that “one bad apple [can] spoil the whole bunch” so!
Who would set up a paradigm where one person could so easily and fraudulently escape peer review, only to be left with her own set of unique facts that mysteriously misleads a whole flock?

This still smacks to me of a situation where her false credentials being known (maybe long, long ago) made her ripe for being a “fall guy” whenever the need should arise.

It’s long-term corruption—endemic to our current banana republic. The string-pullers have something really juicy on all those in higher positions to keep ‘em in line and vote the way of the string-pullers. The squeeky clean Palins are pooh-poohed along the way, unless of course, they’re “so “uncontrollable” that they need to be sufficiently damaged” so as never to be palatable to hold a lofty position.

HF


27 posted on 09/17/2013 6:23:53 AM PDT by holden (Alter or abolish it yet?)
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To: Enchante

“Her research”? What “research”? It was pure, fabricated propaganda.


28 posted on 09/17/2013 6:26:28 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Another government expert.
“Mr. Tran’s research report served as the primary public health justification for a new diesel vehicle regulatory scheme approved by CARB … Dr. Enstrom’s statements brought to light that Mr. Tran’s Ph.D. was not awarded by the University of California at Davis as Tran claimed. Mr. Tran subsequently admitted that he purchased his Ph.D. at a cost of $1,000 from ‘Thornhill University,’ a fake institution and Internet diploma mill based at a UPS store in New York.”

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/06/16/another-skeptical-university-professor-fired-related-to-carbs-pm2-5-air-pollution-regulation-scandal/


29 posted on 09/17/2013 6:29:07 AM PDT by twistedwrench
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To: Enchante

“Kagan defends O’Bagy’s research, which was based on her connections and interactions with opposition leaders both inside and outside Syria and argued in favor of supporting the moderate Syrian opposition....”

Kagan any kin to the SC justice Kagan— Kagan being “short” for Kaganovich (it is).

The “connections” this O’Bagy has with the opposition is probably drinks or pelvic affiliation with their Saudi paid agents in Georgetown. What sheer idiocy.

And the echo chamber that is the brains of Kerry and McCain (who both served in Vietnam you know)... further inflates the complete BS leading us into yet another generated civil war for profiteers. As a conservative, more and more am sounding and thinking WAY outside the Beltway bandits of mil-industrial complex Eisenhower warned us about. Since when are there “moderate” muslim rebels unless we “create them” with “experts” like this. This is total shite.


30 posted on 09/17/2013 7:00:54 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Enchante

If she was never in a PHD program, why does this article call her Dr.?


31 posted on 09/17/2013 7:05:52 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Venturer

Because it’s the “Daily Beast?”


32 posted on 09/17/2013 7:09:57 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: matginzac; Lazamataz

Yes, she is. Laz wouldn’t get a chance to hit that because everybody is lining up to hit that first. Well, almost anybody. The pervs.


33 posted on 09/17/2013 7:11:32 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Enchante; Lazmataz

O’Bagy worked for ISW, founded by Kimberly Kagan.

Kagan’s brother is McCain adviser, Robert Kagan.

Who is Robert married to? Victoria Nuland, former spokesperson for the United States Department of State. (She was nominated to serve as Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs in May 2013.)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3023686/posts

“Republican Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham were vocal critics of the administration’s messaging after the Benghazi attacks, but on Friday, they issued a laudatory statement about Victoria Nuland”


34 posted on 09/17/2013 7:15:43 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Enchante

D.C. and our ruling oligarchy are and inbreed cesspool. Most have mediocre minds at best. Lots of them, such as McCain are down right insane and stupid to boot. Dido our “media” actually things are even worse in our “media” I now rely on the Brit press for real news and real reporting. Hell even the Russian press is better then most of what passes for press in the USA.


35 posted on 09/17/2013 7:31:32 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: Enchante
Lies are lies and liars are liars...We all know who the father of lies is.

Any more questions?

FMCDH(BITS)

36 posted on 09/17/2013 7:35:22 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Enchante

There IS no research, only opinion, and in this case propaganda, with all these government infiltrators.


37 posted on 09/17/2013 8:02:10 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Enchante

Since when has either egregious stupidity or lack of qualifications hindered any Obama foreign policy initiative?


38 posted on 09/17/2013 8:59:57 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Enchante
Why the little lady is just another pathological liar playing the Washington game.

Good for her! She'll really go places.

I hear there's an opening on John McShame's staff, and she should fit right in.

39 posted on 09/17/2013 9:49:24 AM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: Travis McGee

I was reading the comments. It is amazing how little thinking and talking-point spewing the libs do. They seem to all support that it doesn’t matter about the lying. She supports Barry and their side is noble. The ends justifies the means. Lying is ok if you are a lib.


40 posted on 09/17/2013 12:12:18 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: machogirl

Exactly. Reading their comments shows that they don’t know, know that they don’t know, and don’t care that they don’t know the facts. They know their “gospel truth” (socialism/progressivism) and that is the belief they cling to.


41 posted on 09/17/2013 1:31:03 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Doogle

Looks like “O’Bagy’s resume’ was a little Saggy”.

And she was in Vietnam, you know. No wonder Kerry went up the river to Cambodia on a secret mission, to meet her, n’est pas?

He should just have booked a room in the Royal Hotel in Phnom Penh. Great French pastry deserts too.


42 posted on 09/17/2013 4:16:00 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Liz

-—and Powers looks a lot like a Kennedy to me. I’ve always suspected a lot of inbreeding in the political class——It was a factor in bringing down the Roman Empire and a whole lot of others. And the propensity to lie thru ones teeth is almost a qualifier to democrat politics.


43 posted on 09/17/2013 5:03:32 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Enchante

She sounds like Obama, and a perfect fit with his Administration and the kind of “expertise” it needs.


44 posted on 09/17/2013 7:25:03 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: cherokee1
-—Powers looks a lot like a Kennedy to me. I’ve always suspected a lot of inbreeding in the political class——It was a factor in bringing down the Roman Empire and a whole lot of others.

HEH---good one. (Got my fingers crossed WRT bringing down the empire).

Looks like Obama is scared to open his mouth since Syria---that WH pic of him clammed-up w/the gabby Netanhayu was a scream.

45 posted on 09/18/2013 6:06:15 AM PDT by Liz
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