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CNN: Washington FBI Confirms no AR-15 was used in Navy Yard Attack
Twitter ^ | Sept 17th, 2013 | Pamela Brown

Posted on 09/17/2013 7:07:53 AM PDT by Perdogg

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To: zot

Not that I’ve found. However, this is the type of announcement I don’t see CNN putting out if they had anyway to deny it.


101 posted on 09/17/2013 10:53:32 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: KeyLargo

Arthur Daniels does not look white to me.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2423273/Navy-Yard-shooting-Hard-working-grandfather-12-workers-killed-Navy-Yard-massacre-doctors-terrible-injuries-wounded.html


102 posted on 09/17/2013 10:57:52 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Perdogg

Guess he took Joe Biden’s advice to heart.


103 posted on 09/17/2013 11:07:16 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: Perdogg

How could they have gotten that fact wrong for an ENTIRE DAY?


104 posted on 09/17/2013 11:11:08 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: A CA Guy

No offense intended, but you are an UnAmerican loon!


105 posted on 09/17/2013 11:13:31 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: zot

3:22 Minutes – Description under the video
Navy Yard shooter was NOT armed with AR15, according to FBI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSTuOtFLXEk


106 posted on 09/17/2013 11:14:01 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: A CA Guy
The Virginia tech shooter passed the FBI background check.

Laughner passed the FBI background check.

Holmes the Batman movie shooter passed the FBI and CBI background check.

The Sandy Hook shooter shot his mom and stole her guns.

Your beloved background checks do not seem to be "keeping guns out of the hands of criminals and crazies" worth a damn. So go pimp gun control at DU or Kos.

107 posted on 09/17/2013 11:17:04 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: piytar

MSNBC must be devistated.


108 posted on 09/17/2013 11:18:06 AM PDT by matt04
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To: Perdogg

Also weapons info in this piece. CNN doesn’t have a stand alone re: no AR-15 and others are continuing to push it. Nothing on the FBI site either.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/17/us/navy-yard-shooting-knowns-unknowns/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Someone should let ‘sports writer turned expert in all things’ Mike Lupica know... he’s going full bore:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ar-15-rifle-sport-hunting-humans-article-1.1458039


109 posted on 09/17/2013 11:20:00 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray/Penance. Isa 5:18-21,10:1-3 "Tempus faciendi, Domine, dissipaverunt legem tuam")
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To: Perdogg

I don’t believe anything that comes out of Obama’s FBI.

Oh, yeah...what about Benghazi?


110 posted on 09/17/2013 11:20:03 AM PDT by miserare (Fire Eric Holder!)
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To: Servant of the Cross

CNN is now inventing guns on air. Great .


111 posted on 09/17/2013 11:22:28 AM PDT by matt04
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To: AliVeritas

Mike looks a little light in the loafers to me.


112 posted on 09/17/2013 11:27:41 AM PDT by miserare (Fire Eric Holder!)
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To: A CA Guy
Some of the craziest guys I know have the highest security clearances. They are also stone cold killers who happen to be the guys who popped Bin Laden. They're the guys who do the toughest and dirtiest jobs around. It's the moral compass that's screwed up in this case. Here's the deal, you can't legislate against insanity. And by the way, this regime thinks that if you own a gun, believe in Jesus Christ (especially if you think he's coming back soon) and vote conservative or think that home schooling ought to be a viable alternative to public education, you're nuts. Moreover, not only are you crazy but you need some good old fashioned government intervention.
113 posted on 09/17/2013 11:28:00 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: BenLurkin

Yes, and the fact that he wasn’t white as well.


114 posted on 09/17/2013 11:28:03 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Perdogg

Doesn’t matter, whatever firearm was used, that is the firearm that the gun grabbers are gonna place in their crosshairs and try to pass unconstitutional, basic right violating laws against in order to save the world for the children.


115 posted on 09/17/2013 11:34:13 AM PDT by freedom462
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To: Perdogg

In this case, it looks like we are gonna have calls for shotgun and pistol control from statist Democrats with complacent, and in some cases complicit, cooperation from statist Republicans.


116 posted on 09/17/2013 11:34:20 AM PDT by freedom462
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To: Whenifhow

Thanks for the link. Still CNN Pamela Brown citing unnamed “law enforcement sources”.


117 posted on 09/17/2013 11:41:15 AM PDT by zot
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To: gnarledmaw
All military personnel should be armed with sidearms at all times while in uniform.

While I admire the way you think that's a bit impractical for a number of reasons. In most, even 99% of cases, the issued weapon is the M16. Only medics (the Navy has corpsmen) and in some cases, aviators, tankers and some officers (staff usually) are issued sidearms with which they have to qualify. It's nearly impossible to lug an M16 around daily especially to the office. Imagine leaving your rifle in the latrine (the navy calls it the Head and civilians call it the bathroom) where any janitor could find it.

I was an officer in an infantry outfit. Guys like me lead the killers in their duties of knocking off the enemy. Don't tell me I don't "need a sidearm!" I was also Executive Officer of the post pistol team (second in command) for a time. Back in those days, when General Dozier was kidnapped over in Italy by terrorists (later executed) my bosses who were the Division Commander and his key staff ordered all division staff OFFICERS to come to work after drawing a sidearm (1911 45acp) and at least two magazines of ball ammo and wear said sidearm under the duty uniform, concealed. When the division HQ building was hit with a bomb threat, they evacuated and then sent all of us LIEUTENANTS back inside to look for the "device!" It sure made me feel special, I'll tell you. Special and decidedly expendable.

118 posted on 09/17/2013 11:51:30 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: fortheDeclaration
It wasn't an angry white guy? But I thought it just had to be.
119 posted on 09/17/2013 11:55:37 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Sacajaweau

“What difference does it make?”


120 posted on 09/17/2013 11:57:30 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: zot

Here’s another vid

30 Seconds
FBI confirms Aaron Alexis did not own AR15 & entered Navy Yard with valid ID

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrTf-aiXqq4


121 posted on 09/17/2013 12:06:56 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: EdReform

You get it!! What goes out first sticks!!!! So the AR15 report will stick even though it is now admitted to be erroneous a fabrication or a lie


122 posted on 09/17/2013 12:12:38 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Sans-Culotte

I wouldn’t be surprised if Di-Fi should calls for allowing cops and guards to only have single shot pistols. Only a two guards and two others would have been killed.


123 posted on 09/17/2013 12:22:29 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Servant of the Cross

Wow - they’re as stupid as ... Obama voters.

Of course.


124 posted on 09/17/2013 12:26:21 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Her and all the other gun grabbers are o.k. with the police, and them, having guns. they just don’t want you to be able to defend yourself when they decide it is time to “resettle and relocate” you. And who will do the resettling and relocating? The local police departments,


125 posted on 09/17/2013 12:26:47 PM PDT by sport
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To: jaydubya2

He bought the gun in the navy yard? That’s funny.


126 posted on 09/17/2013 12:28:18 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: zot

AR-15: Anti-Gun Narrative Blows Up In Face of CNN, Daily News [ Shotgun used not AR15 ]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3067783/posts


127 posted on 09/17/2013 12:45:39 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Spktyr

That was it.


128 posted on 09/17/2013 3:01:51 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: Perdogg

You learn so much from the media about weapons! /s

An adorable, but delusional, FOX News talking head told us that “the AR-15 is the civilian version of the M-16. Unlike the M-16, which is fully automatic, the AR-15 is a semi-automatic that is limited to firing three-shot bursts with each trigger pull.” She said that when witnesses reported hearing “pop pop pop” gunfire, that was the semi-automatic AR-15.

Meanwhile over on MSNBC, Andrea Mitchell said that the weapon was an AK-15! Who knew!

Even while the AR-15 was still being widely reported yesterday as the prime weapon of the killer, a Marine Corps officer (the one who had been standing next to a man shot in the head) said that the primary weapon was a pistol.

I took that to the bank.


129 posted on 09/17/2013 3:15:17 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Perdogg

It has to be blamed on an AR 15. It is the most feared rifle (by liberals). I used to wonder why, when the M1A, Mini 14 and Mini 30 were still legal in Kalifornia. (They won’t be much longer).

I recently began studying the AR 15 and its variants. I found out why they fear it most, and I bought one shortly afterward.


130 posted on 09/17/2013 3:40:51 PM PDT by CPO retired
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To: Perdogg

Don’t walk past ANY high rise window where Piers Morgan may be working for a few days... He may be saddened enough to leap out.

Seems he was one of the FIRST - if not THE first - to start spreading that story.


131 posted on 09/17/2013 3:58:10 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: ExSoldier
Expendable? Hardly. You were an infantry officer. Someone needs to be the brains of the outfit. The Air Force and Navy require higher ASVAB scores for entry so the enlisted can afford to strap officers into jets and lob them at the enemy. That's expendable.

(...OK, just kidding everyone...calm down...)

As a veteran Im aware of the issues you note. My position is that if we can afford to bomb aspirin factories with million dollar bombs and if we can afford to execute "very small" strikes against Syria with cruise missiles costing 10s of millions then there is enough money laying around to to have both available to our troops along with the money necessary for them to qualify on more than one weapon. True, most troops simply don't require M16s. Then again, Im not the type to try to drive nails with a screwdriver. Different tools for different tasks. A sidearm isn't going to get in the way of latrine duty, weed n seed, or stirring oatmeal in the mess. I am proposing either/or for the majority of service members, most getting sidearms. Infantry, security, and similar troops should ALSO have a sidearm available along with their M16. Im aware of the issue of the weight of the total combat gear that infantry soldiers struggle with, they should still have the option to carry both.

As far as losing the weapon...all I have to say is that 18 year old Israeli girls seem to be able to find a place in their bikinis for their compacts during a day at the beach with their friends and still remember to not lose their rifle. I cant imagine why properly trained American troops on base shouldnt somehow be able to pull off a task as simple as not losing a sidearm in a latrine. (Place a hook near the handle for hanging the belt so that they have to reach past it to open the door. Im sure there is a contractor out there that should be able to produce them for only $37,000 per unit.)

Unless you were looking for "a section 8", I doubt you were standing up front using your .45 as a pointer for your unit to follow. I suspect the unfortunate reality is that he day an infantry officer "needs" to personally shoot someone in the field there should be plenty of M16s laying around for them to use. Maybe a marksman such as yourself should have been issued something more capable than the M16 all along, yet still have had the option to carry a sidearm. The rest of the days in your career you should have had access to a sidearm instead.

132 posted on 09/17/2013 7:53:32 PM PDT by gnarledmaw (Obama: Evincing a Design since 2009)
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To: Perdogg

Then it must have been an Assault Shotgun.


133 posted on 09/18/2013 3:21:44 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: haircutter

Of course it does... Everything does to you people. If an airplane, you are one, lands 15 minutes late, you would scream cover-up.


134 posted on 09/18/2013 4:27:19 AM PDT by justice14 ("Christ is Victorious" / @rjustice21)
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To: gnarledmaw
As far as losing the weapon...all I have to say is that 18 year old Israeli girls seem to be able to find a place in their bikinis for their compacts during a day at the beach with their friends and still remember to not lose their rifle. I cant imagine why properly trained American troops on base shouldnt somehow be able to pull off a task as simple as not losing a sidearm in a latrine.

That's all probably true today, since we've been on a war footing for so many years, like the Israelis have since .... ummmm 1948. When I was on active duty in the 1980s, though, it was the Cold War and the troops were almost universally more scatter-brained. A buddy of mine, another platoon leader was doing a water crossing and one of his guys just lost an M60 machinegun (precursor to the M249 ? 7.62x51) into the Nisqually River. Just "OOPS!" Never recovered a belt fed weapon that was in pristine shape. I sometimes wondered if the kid went back on his own time with a scuba tank and made some great money on his "loss." Or if he did that and just kept it for a SHTF rainy day.

135 posted on 09/18/2013 7:49:42 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: justice14

you people ???

your not as intelligent as you believe yourself to be..sad.


136 posted on 09/18/2013 10:01:21 AM PDT by haircutter
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To: haircutter

Says the guy with tin foil on his head? Yes, you people.


137 posted on 09/19/2013 4:22:44 AM PDT by justice14 ("Christ is Victorious" / @rjustice21)
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