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CNN: Washington FBI Confirms no AR-15 was used in Navy Yard Attack
Twitter ^ | Sept 17th, 2013 | Pamela Brown

Posted on 09/17/2013 7:07:53 AM PDT by Perdogg

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To: Haiku Guy

No, the FBI says NO AR-15 was used.


51 posted on 09/17/2013 7:42:39 AM PDT by Perdogg (Cruz-Paul 2016)
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To: A CA Guy
How did he pass a test to get the one he got?

He bought a gun legally? Where? When?

52 posted on 09/17/2013 7:42:49 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: A CA Guy

You are walking a slippery slope here.

Medical records are, for the moment, still private. The subset of mental health records is even “more” private. A medical provider cannot release mental health records unless there is a signed release that specifically states that they can be released. After the implementation of owebamacare the fedgov will likely have access to ALL of your health records any time they want.

So who decides if someone is crazy and shouldn’t be allowed to own a weapon? This regime believes that Tea Party, conservative, freedom loving Americans and Veterans are subversive threats to their ultimate goals of power and total control. That makes us all crazy in their eyes.

Who’s side are you on?


53 posted on 09/17/2013 7:44:45 AM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: BerryDingle

According to sources, he bought a shotgun just before the shooting.


54 posted on 09/17/2013 7:45:39 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: piytar
And from CNN's website article "It's easy to get an AR-15. They can be purchased online or in a gun store. Aaron Alexis legally purchased the one he used in the Navy Yard."

Lies,lies,lies...
55 posted on 09/17/2013 7:46:40 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: a fool in paradise

Bingo!


56 posted on 09/17/2013 7:47:34 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: 43north

Well said. Good point.


57 posted on 09/17/2013 7:48:55 AM PDT by murrie (Mark Levin: Prosecuting stupidity nightly.)
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To: Perdogg

58 posted on 09/17/2013 7:51:06 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (If govmt is stockpiling guns, ammo, food, & meds, don't you think it's a good idea to do the same?)
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To: piytar

“I thought it was an “AR-15 shotgun.” “

There was a reporter from Fox at the White house who heard what sounded like gun shots and reported that a secret service guy suddenly showed up with “a big gun”. He had no idea if it was a rifle, shotgun, bazooka, etc. The only description he could offer was “big”. These people are completely ignorant on these issues.


59 posted on 09/17/2013 7:52:05 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Perdogg
No, the FBI says NO AR-15 was used.

Gee thanks FBI. I thought all federal military issued civilian sportsman models with a 3 round burst feature.

60 posted on 09/17/2013 7:52:16 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Perdogg

I wonder if we can truly believe the FBI ?

Can we believe and trust the Government ?

We have been lied to so many time, hard to believe anything told to us..

Do we trust the Main Stream Media ?

I SURE DONT...

There is just something about this killing that cry’s COVER UP TO ME.
AND FEEL VERY SAD FOR THE TWELVE FAMILIES WHO LOST LOVED ONES...


61 posted on 09/17/2013 7:52:52 AM PDT by haircutter
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To: cripplecreek

A black guy that used a black gun!


62 posted on 09/17/2013 7:54:02 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Perdogg; P-Marlowe; onyx; Jim Robinson

I have read 3 articles that swore by the AR15, and one that claimed it was the weapon with which he did all the damage.

We need a way for Free Republic to go viral on stuff like this.

I recommend a county-by-county anti-gun-grabbers, well-written, informative alert freepmail/flyer to individual freepers. They will be requested to forward that message to their entire email list(s).

State-by-state and county-by-county (or parish), there are only 3141 in the USA. We could blanket the USA in a matter of hours, and maybe some of it would even go viral.

I wonder how many counties (parishes) are represented on FR? Most probably.


63 posted on 09/17/2013 7:55:06 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Perdogg; Servant of the Cross; piytar; Red Badger
Lying propaganda is exactly right. They are not stupid. Their audience is, and they know it. So, if they report on a weapon described as "an AR-15 shotgun, that uses armor piercing bullets in a 150 round clip, that can shoot clean through an elementary school and the police officer in body armor standing on the other side... ", their audience will indeed believe it. After all, CNN sold them "Hope and Change" brought by an Afro-Marxist Kenyan. Twice. Why not an "AR-15 shotgun"?
64 posted on 09/17/2013 7:57:58 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: dennisw
Now we know the real reason for 24/7 coverage of these events. While the low info people are tuned in the media can tell them whatever they want. Later, when the low info people are long gone and the real facts come out it's too late.

If the media are criticized for how they initially reported they simply claim that, among all the confusion, they were reporting the facts as them knew them.

65 posted on 09/17/2013 7:58:54 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: Perdogg
Shooter victim tally:

Twelve (victims murdered)

Race of all victims:WHITE

Race of shooter: BLACK

Friends of Navy Yard gunman describe him as a 'hardcore drinker' who spent hours playing violent shooting video games

Aaron Alexis, 34, converted to Buddhism and liked to meditate but also had marathon sessions playing violent video games

Shooter was being treated for serious mental illness and had been 'hearing voices'

His friend and employer said he once appeared at work with a gun tucked into his waistband

Another friend said Alexis had complained of racial discrimination

Alexis was kicked out of the Navy in 2011 after arrest for firing a gun into neighbor's apartment in Fort Worth, Texas

By Louise Boyle and Daniel Bates http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2422616/Aaron-Alexis-identified-Wahington-Navy-Yard-shooter.html

66 posted on 09/17/2013 8:02:31 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Sir Napsalot
Another thing ‘FBI Washington field office’ also needs to clarify in the days to come is this -

Exactly how many were shot and killed by the shotgun, and how many were killed by the pistols.

btw, Shouldn't that give us even more ‘incentives’ to possess an AR-15, rather than a pistol, when facing a shotgun wielding lunatic?

67 posted on 09/17/2013 8:02:54 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: piytar

Most likely the newly banned M1 Garand, WWII military assault rifle, with the high capacity 8 round clip, which was responsible for killing hundreds of thousands of freedom loving people exerting their right to support their democratically elected governments of Germany and Italy, as well as those peaceful servants of the Emperor of Japan.


68 posted on 09/17/2013 8:03:37 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: PGR88
We'll hear he had 10 AR-15's in his garage, 3 in his trunk and 25 in a storage locker.

I'd like to know if he was on meds...

69 posted on 09/17/2013 8:04:48 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Excellence
Di-Fi is disappointed.

No she isn't. The AR15 story got out there, it doesn't matter it's false. The grabbers will ignore this clarification, they always do. They'll be hollering about this for weeks to come.

70 posted on 09/17/2013 8:05:34 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: AppyPappy
"According to sources, he bought a shotgun just before the shooting."
71 posted on 09/17/2013 8:06:15 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Perdogg
Let us always remember, Democratic President, Bill Clinton, disarmed our military personnel on bases (except for MPs) in March 1993 in one of his first Presidential acts. Since that time, it has been like shooting fish in a barrel. Repeal this asinine edict.
72 posted on 09/17/2013 8:08:38 AM PDT by TennesseeGirl (Learn history and REMEMBER)
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To: KeyLargo

It would be interesting to note if there was an intentional selection of victims by race.
This would have to be gleaned from witnesses present during the shooting.


73 posted on 09/17/2013 8:08:44 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

The names of seven out of the 12 people killed in the shooting at the Washington Navy Yard on Monday have been released.

The Washington Post reports that police have confirmed the identities of those individuals as:

Michael Arnold, 59.

Sylvia Frasier, 53.

Kathy Gaarde, 62.

John Roger Johnson, 73.

Frank Kohler, 50.

Bernard Proctor, 46.

Vishnu Pandit, 61.

The suspected gunman, 34-year-old Aaron Alexis, was also killed at the scene.

The remaining names will be released once families are notified, KTLA reported.

All of the victims killed were civilians or contractors, according to CNN.

Multiple people were also injured in the shooting. A Navy announcement Monday afternoon put the number of those wounded at 14, DC Mayor Vince Gray said at a 10:15 press conference that only eight were injured in total.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/16/navy-yard-shooting-victim-names_n_3938299.html


74 posted on 09/17/2013 8:12:19 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

I suspect “Vishnu Pandit” is not your typical redneck of European descent.


75 posted on 09/17/2013 8:13:20 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Perdogg

The media uses the words “destroyer” and “battleship” interchangeably to mean “warship”. I doubt that even half the people at CNN know the difference between a shotgun and rifle, and to which class, if either, the AR-15 belongs. All they know is that guns are scary and the Navy has boats that shoot things.


76 posted on 09/17/2013 8:15:25 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

They [the left] really have a fear of the AR-15 -
which means it is the rifle whose ownership we must most protect.


77 posted on 09/17/2013 8:16:53 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: xzins
I'd wait on the AR-15 thing. It will take a while for the Gov't to get their narrative down.

As of now, CNN says no AR was used. It's not like CNN is the most accurate mockingbird out there.

78 posted on 09/17/2013 8:19:03 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: TennesseeGirl
Good point, military personnel on a base mostly unarmed relying on civilian cops from protection, about as asinine as it gets.

Have regular and irregular patrols of MPs and make sure carefully selected officers (No *Mohammad* types) carry sidearms at all times.

This clown wouldn't have gotten far.

79 posted on 09/17/2013 8:26:27 AM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz......Nuff said.)
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To: Perdogg
No, the FBI says NO AR-15 was used.

Well, an M-16 is not an AR-15. Could it be that the FBI is being cute, here?

On the other hand, elsewhere I have seen it that he had a shotgun and two pistols he took from his victims.

80 posted on 09/17/2013 8:34:08 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Gun Control Haiku: Say "Registration" / And they call you paranoid / So say "Privacy")
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To: Perdogg

Well, since the guns were taken from law enforcement, they should not have guns anymore. Just like London. Just think how many lives would have been spared if leo didn’t have these evil pieces of metal!


81 posted on 09/17/2013 8:35:21 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Tastes like Heaven, Burns like Hell! Mmmmmm. What is it?)
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To: Perdogg

The media fixation on the AR-15 is completely absurd. A nutcase with a bow and arrow can kill, and as I suspect the case here, shooting down on a crowd or down corridor with a shotgun is pretty deadly too.


82 posted on 09/17/2013 8:39:57 AM PDT by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: chuckles

The Benelli M4 Super 90 has been adopted by the Navy/Marines as the M1014 - the receiver looks a lot like that of an AK.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benelli_M4


83 posted on 09/17/2013 8:40:58 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Perdogg

The press get it wrong again.

What a surprise.


84 posted on 09/17/2013 8:43:14 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: MestaMachine; penelopesire; maggief; Nachum; holdonnow

ping


85 posted on 09/17/2013 8:51:11 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray/Penance. Isa 5:18-21,10:1-3 "Tempus faciendi, Domine, dissipaverunt legem tuam")
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To: PGR88

Didn’t you hear, now they say it was his ‘actual’ ID for the gig.


86 posted on 09/17/2013 8:52:36 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray/Penance. Isa 5:18-21,10:1-3 "Tempus faciendi, Domine, dissipaverunt legem tuam")
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To: AliVeritas

No telling what else they have gotten wrong. Who feed them this info to begin with?


87 posted on 09/17/2013 9:00:23 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: cripplecreek

Bookmark


88 posted on 09/17/2013 9:04:14 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: AliVeritas

And the lapse in security clearances was due to the sequester. /sarc.

The false storyline has already been created for low-information voters.

Never let a crisis go to waste ...
gun control,
sequester,
healthcare,
etc.


89 posted on 09/17/2013 9:11:02 AM PDT by maggief
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping!


90 posted on 09/17/2013 9:16:19 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: 43north
Mental issues that rise to the level of a concern do IMO need to be made public into a general data base so they can not get guns.

In this case, a guy who uses excuses to shoot others and who almost killed someone before this with a gun should have been on some national data base for sure.

Now unless you want to lobotomize the mental, we have to have the mental documented and restricted from certain activities.
Do you want one as a crossing guard?
Do you want them having sensitive security clearances?

91 posted on 09/17/2013 9:23:51 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: dennisw

Precisely their plan - Alinsky tactics. Strike first and quickly with the lie so it becomes “fact.”


92 posted on 09/17/2013 10:05:59 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: The Cajun
All military personnel should be armed with sidearms at all times while in uniform.

The people in the military presently carrying sidearms, except base LEOs, are those who "don't really need them" (officers), or those who should be carrying some type of more capable weapon (security).

The rest should have the ability to secure at least their own safety or better, to use a sidearm as intended, to "fight their way back to the rifle they shouldn't have set down."

The elitist idea that rank and file military cant be trusted with a pistol is asinine. This idea was born from the tradition of sword and pistol representing status of a noble in command and has no place in a functional modern military.

If Im supposed to trust an individual to drive a tank, fire artillery, fly ordinance over my city, or protect my Secrets, then I can trust them to carry a sidearm.

Those who cant be trusted SHOULDNT BE IN THE MILITARY and need to be booted.

93 posted on 09/17/2013 10:23:18 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (Obama: Evincing a Design since 2009)
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To: Perdogg

C’mon it was an AR-15 Shotgun, but I can’t seem to find store that hasn’t sold out of them already../sarc.


94 posted on 09/17/2013 10:27:57 AM PDT by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Socialist Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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To: piytar
I thought it was an “AR-15 shotgun.” (Actual statement on a CNN ticker yesterday.)

Back when those two guys were sniping at people in Washington, D.C., Katie Coric opined that the AR-type rifle's accuracy was especially deadly because "it had spirals in the barrel". (I am not creative enough to make up something like this)

95 posted on 09/17/2013 10:31:57 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Where can I get one and does it come in both 12 and 20 ga. ?


96 posted on 09/17/2013 10:39:47 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Perdogg

Piers Morgan said that it was a FACT that the gunman bought the AR-15 from a Northern Virginia gun store. FACT!


97 posted on 09/17/2013 10:41:08 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: The Cajun

* Obviously, I don’t mean that those engaging in specific tasks where the sidearm is more likely to do harm should be carrying while doing those specific tasks, ie the lab tech doing MRIs shouldn’t be carrying while in the same room as the imager, etc.


98 posted on 09/17/2013 10:42:26 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (Obama: Evincing a Design since 2009)
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To: GreyFriar

This is a twitter by Pamela Brown of CNN. Has anyone seen a definitive statement by the FBI?


99 posted on 09/17/2013 10:43:58 AM PDT by zot
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To: Perdogg

Has CNN yet confirmed its dismissal of Piers Morgan for his knee-jerk histrionics unfounded on any facts?


100 posted on 09/17/2013 10:51:29 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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