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In public shift, Israel calls for Assad's fall
Reuters ^ | 17 Sep 13 | Dan Williams

Posted on 09/17/2013 8:50:27 AM PDT by elhombrelibre

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To: Me1onCollie

New here on FreeRepublic? Did you find this one instead of the Nazi Storm Trooper sites?


101 posted on 09/18/2013 1:17:42 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberal women now play the vagina card to win their arguments.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I think you can see the difference between actually fighting alongside al Qaeda, and staying out of a conflict inside an ally of a country that manufactures devices that kill Americans.


102 posted on 09/18/2013 2:41:35 AM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: Zhang Fei

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Syria-cancels-urgent-tender-to-buy-sugar-raising-doubt-over-Assads-ability-to-buy-food-325099


103 posted on 09/18/2013 4:04:29 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberal women now play the vagina card to win their arguments.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Just because Israel publicly calls for Assad's ouster doesn't mean that they actually want Assad replaced by the MB in Syria.

This may be public posturing on Israel's part to confuse one or several of its numerous enemies.

104 posted on 09/18/2013 6:16:10 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: elhombrelibre
The numbers involved are nugatory. Syria's annual wheat import requirement of 2m tonnes ($600m) are 1/5 Russia's annual exports. Its sugar consumption of 276K tonnes ($138m) can be filled by Cuban imports. It's the kind of thing that happens during all-out civil war fed by foreign powers on every side. The party getting insufficient financing will collapse. China, Iran and Russia, with their present economies (~$11T combined), should have no problem financing Syria's war needs.

China alone is said to have spent over $10b financing foreign communist insurgencies during the Cold War (i.e. an average of ~$300m a year), a big chunk of which occurred during the 40's and 50's, back when (1) a Mickey D's burger cost 15 cents, (2) its annual GDP ranged from $50b to $200b and (3) tens of millions of Chinese starved to death. A China with annual output averaging $100b spent an average of 0.3% of that output financing communist insurgents during the Cold War. Assad's $1b in food imports represent .013% of China's current annual output (~$8t), at a time when China's famines are a distant memory.

From a food supply perspective, Assad has little to worry about unless his foreign sponsors cut off his oxygen. The rebels are presumably well-provisioned via a combination of Gulf Arab, European and American aid. The outcome of this war will ultimately be decided based on which side has more money to burn, more to lose and no place else to go. It's hard to tell just how committed Assad's foreign sponsors are to him, but it's possible that Alawites (and perhaps Syria's other minorities) face extermination if Assad loses. Alawites appear to have nowhere to run*, whereas Sunni Arabs could depart for any one of a dozen Arab countries or even the dozens of Sunni Muslim majority countries that have accepted Bosnian and Kosovar refugees in the past. I think the Alawites have a decent chance of winning for the same reason that the Jews won in 1948 - they have nothing to lose and nowhere to run, whereas their adversaries can escape with their lives into the (at least initially) welcoming arms of their Sunni brethren abroad.

* They've made a political accommodation with the Shiite leadership of Iran, but they're really pagans at best and apostates at worst, which would leave them subject to persecution or worse in devout Shiite-majority states like Iraq and Iran.

105 posted on 09/18/2013 6:41:17 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I must correct you. IEDs in Iraq were from ordnance originated from many countries. Not just Iran. Further, they were rigged by Iraqis.


106 posted on 09/18/2013 6:44:00 AM PDT by SisterK (the God of peace will crush Satan under your feet shortly Romans 16:20)
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To: Nextrush

Those details, pesky things.

/yawn...


107 posted on 09/18/2013 6:52:22 AM PDT by Yehuda (Pres Obortion, Sen.McAnus, & Hillary Rotten Clinton all kiss the *ss of the muslim brotherhood.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Your comment reminds me of how Marxist used to think they could do agriculture by just going to the library and looking things up. And I really think you’re deceiving yourself if you believe Russian and Cuba are going to feed the hungry in Syria.


108 posted on 09/18/2013 7:37:55 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberal women now play the vagina card to win their arguments.)
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To: stars & stripes forever

[Bibi, do you not care about the plight of Syrian Christians who are being slaughtered by Syrian rebels?]

Christians have been persecuted and murdered in all the 57 Islamic countries on the earth and somehow Israel is to blame for murdering Christians? I think not.
Netenyahu is taking care of Israel and must protect them from Islamic jihad without and communist left wing politicians within.
May the good Lord Jesus Christ given him wisdom to destroy Israel’s enemies from with out and with in.


109 posted on 09/18/2013 8:34:52 AM PDT by kindred ( God is just and the justifier of him that believes in Jesus.)
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To: Zhang Fei

[So Assad falls and who gets the power, the Muslim Brotherhood again?
I don’t see how that’s gonna end well for Syria’s Christians.]

That is so true and Mr. Benjamin Netenyahu knows it as do all true Christians and Conservatives.


110 posted on 09/18/2013 8:37:55 AM PDT by kindred ( God is just and the justifier of him that believes in Jesus.)
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To: AtlasStalled

[“Really stupid of Bibi to go down this road.”]

What are you saying? He has so many everywhere and will defend Israel from the Islamic Jihadists and American and worldwide left wing communists without. I see a man staying one step ahead of them and who is smarter that we think he is.

And America should go isolationist as long as it continues to win wars and lose control over the nations it defeats by allowing them to decide who will rule over them until an American Constituional Bill of Rights is put in place for their citizens. It is stupid to allow defeated nations elect corrupt politicians. We have not won a war in America since South Korea and the big II because of stupid American politicians who are fools and liars.


111 posted on 09/18/2013 8:46:27 AM PDT by kindred ( God is just and the justifier of him that believes in Jesus.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Your comment reminds me of how Marxist used to think they could do agriculture by just going to the library and looking things up. And I really think you’re deceiving yourself if you believe Russian and Cuba are going to feed the hungry in Syria.

Without foreign help, Assad's regime would already have collapsed. Civil wars often result in famine, due to all sides disrupting agriculture, for both sustenance and tactical advantage. Russian funding for Assad isn't some kind of aberration. For 50 years, Syria has been a Russian client state. The subsidies abated after the Cold War ended, but seem to have stepped up again, now that Putin appears to have chosen Syria as the place where Russia will make a stand, as regards the rollback of Russian influence.

I think it's unnecessary to resort to analogies involving unrelated fields to predict the outcome of this conflict. Take Libya, for instance. Gaddafi had a military headed up by incompetents who were defeated by a motley force of black African irregulars in Chad during the Toyota War. And yet the Libyan rebels were unable to defeat him without American intervention. Absent US military intervention, and assuming continued Russian (and other allied) funding, it's highly likely that Assad's regime will still be standing a year from now, and may even have driven the rebels out of the country.

112 posted on 09/18/2013 8:50:56 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei
The subsidies abated after the Cold War ended, but seem to have stepped up again, now that Putin appears to have chosen Syria as the place where Russia will make a stand, as regards the rollback of Russian influence.

Having a Naval base there, tends to do that.

113 posted on 09/18/2013 8:51:39 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Zhang Fei

He’ll have to recapture 60 percent of his country. It seems unlikely he can capture and hold any of it. The rebels will be even better armed soon, and each tank they destroy makes his army that much weaker. By the way, when will the military genius Assad retake the neighborhood he gassed? Even using Sarin gas he cannot take an urban neighborhood. Face it. He’s going down. How much are the Iranians, Hezbollah (fine Christians both), and the President for Life of Russia willing to pay to keep Assad’s crime family and Socialist monarchy in power? I don’t think they’ll pay as much as is needed.


114 posted on 09/18/2013 8:55:23 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberal women now play the vagina card to win their arguments.)
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To: elhombrelibre
How much are the Iranians, Hezbollah (fine Christians both), and the President for Life of Russia willing to pay to keep Assad’s crime family and Socialist monarchy in power? I don’t think they’ll pay as much as is needed.

Russia carried dozens of economic basket cases (including Angola, China, Cuba, Ethiopia, Nicaragua, South Yemen, Somalia and Vietnam) during the Cold War, in addition to spending 1/3 of its GDP on defense. And this happened even as Russia's centrally-planned economy was imploding. I doubt Russia will break a sweat over spending $1b a year propping up Assad, now that it's adopted capitalism and benefited from the commodity price boom of the past decade. For the Chinese, backing Assad is pocket change, and it's likely, from the animosity expressed towards them by the rebels, that China is supporting the regime with more than just words.

115 posted on 09/18/2013 9:13:19 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: dfwgator
Having a Naval base there, tends to do that.

The Russians have abandoned lots of naval bases before, including the excellent one built with US tax dollars during the Vietnam War at Cam Ranh Bay. It's just that Russian client states have been falling like dominoes ever since the Cold War ended, mainly because we backed the opposition while they stopped funding their client regimes. Their welfare cases have become our welfare cases.

For what are probably reasons of national pride, Russia appears to have decided that Syria is somewhat important to them. Nobody knows how deep that support is, but if they feel it to be important enough to go nuclear, there is no prospect of American intervention, mainly because they would tell the occupant of the White House and he will back down.

Could a nuclear exchange occur over a piddling issue like Syria? Stranger things have happened. Who could have predicted that the assassination of Austria's crown prince would result in tens of millions of European dead and the destruction of Europe's ability to maintain its overseas empires, both in manpower and economic terms? The one thing Marx said that I've found amusing is his view that "history repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce". During WWI, the Great Powers were at least fighting over worthwhile things - the possession of vast overseas empires. Fighting a nuclear war over the right of Sunni Arabs in Syria to exterminate its minorities seems to define the essence of the word "farce". But as history has shown again and again, man does not live by bread alone. Napoleon's Grand Armee won victory after victory against numerically superior opponents based in part on the principle, as Napoleon put it, that a soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon.

116 posted on 09/18/2013 9:54:54 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Then by all means let Israel foot the bill and let the IDF do the fighting. The same goes for the Saudis who demand "regime change" in Syria.

Both have made statements that seem to imply that they consider regard the US as little more than their mercenaries in the Middle East.

117 posted on 09/18/2013 10:40:25 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

Can you provide those quotes?


118 posted on 09/18/2013 10:48:26 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberal women now play the vagina card to win their arguments.)
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To: elhombrelibre

When the Saudis or Israelis say that Assad must be overthrown, whose military do you suppose do they expect to help the rebels do the overthrowing?


119 posted on 09/18/2013 10:51:35 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

Oh, okay. They didn’t say it. There is no quote. But you’ve inferred that they said the US must overthrow Assad.


120 posted on 09/18/2013 10:54:20 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberal women now play the vagina card to win their arguments.)
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To: Zhang Fei
"This is gonna turn out about as well for Israel as its sponsorship of Hamas as a foil to the PLO."


Rice: Better to have Hamas in power than in streets
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1733397/posts

Rice: Palestinians deserve to live free of ‘occupation’[at an event of pro-Palestinian group]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1717847/posts

US Supplies Fatah With Arms, Rice Decries “Occupation”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1718348/posts

Rice: Israel Must Withdraw from More than Gaza and Samaria
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1333354/posts

Rice: Israel Must Withdraw from More than Gaza and Samaria
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1333354/posts
February 1, 2005

Commencement Address at Boston College (Secretary Condoleezza Rice, Boston, Massachusetts, May 22, 2006. US Department of State)
Excerpts:
As a student of a Catholic high school, the Sisters of Loretta taught me, I am pleased to be at an institution of higher education with such strong and celebrated Catholic and Jesuit traditions . . . You see, I got my Master's Degree at Notre Dame. (Boos.) I acquired a passion for the fighting Irish . . . and my family has been college educated and Presbyterian ever since. (Laughter and applause.) . . . I wandered into a course on international politics taught by a Czech refugee who specialized in Soviet studies, a man who had a daughter by the name of Madeleine Albright. With that one class, I was hooked. I discovered that my passion was Russia and all things Russian.

Ground to a Halt (Research shows: Suicide-bombers Communists, not Islamists
New York Times ^ | August 3, 2006 | ROBERT PAPE

Posted on Wed Aug 9 01:23:46 2006 by GodGunsGuts

...

In writing my book on suicide attackers, I had researchers scour Lebanese sources to collect martyr videos, pictures and testimonials and the biographies of the Hezbollah bombers. Of the 41, we identified the names, birth places and other personal data for 38. Shockingly, only eight were Islamic fundamentalists. Twenty-seven were from leftist political groups like the Lebanese Communist Party and the Arab Socialist Union. Three were Christians, including a female high-school teacher with a college degree. All were born in Lebanon.

...

Robert A. Pape, a professor of political science at the University of Chicago, is the author of “Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism.”



Iran is also communist, by the way (everything state-owned and much of it doled out to the families of clerics). I posted hundreds of articles on Iran and the need to take care of business there a long time ago, but anti-American, pecuniary, international socialist interests here threw trash in threads at nearly every article. Iran continues to build nuclear weapons.

On the Syrian-Lebanese-Iranian alliance.

Lebanon Is NOT Innocent (David Horowitz Slams The Lebanon “Innocent Bystander” Myth Alert)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1671142/posts

Maronites are the predominant Christian population in Lebanon.

Harb pledges to be forceful president [Maronite "ready to fight" Israel, "protect Hezbollah"]
Lebanese Lobby (Lebanon) ^ | 11SEP07 | Francis Matthew

Posted on Wed Sep 12 03:12:26 2007 by familyop

"Beirut: Boutros Harb, long-serving Maronite Lebanese Member of Parliament, is standing for president and reaching out to the Shiite Hezbollah, across the political divide in the country.

[...]

"I have proposed that the Lebanese army and government must be in control of declaring war, and that we should find a way to incorporate Hezbollah's forces into the army. But this has to be on the condition that the Lebanese government and army accept the full duty of being ready to fight and protect Hezbollah if Israel attacks," he said, adding that it was also important that Lebanon had to liberate the occupied territory of the Sheba'a Farms from Israel."



Lebanese leaders call for unity [All of them support the terrorists. ...always have.]
CNN International ^ | 20JUL06 | CNN
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1668991/posts

"The ship is sinking and all of us, the Lebanese, should stick together and work together to stop the Israeli aggression," Amin Gemayel, a Maronite Christian who served as president from 1982 to 1988, told the Arabic-language TV station Al-Jazeera . . . Michel Aoun, a one-time commander in Lebanon's 15-year civil war who now serves in parliament, said . . . "I don't think that Israel has the capability to destroy Hezbollah militarily because Hezbollah is not a group of armed men," Aoun said. "Hezbollah is a major part of the Lebanese social fabric."


Lebanon says army ready to fight [The truth about Lebanon.]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1670344/posts

Aoun is also a Maronite Christian.


Lebanon Turns to the Vatican to Halt Israeli Offensive
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1668754/posts

Vatican Condemns Israel for Attacks on Lebanon
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1665678/posts



121 posted on 09/18/2013 5:36:19 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: elhombrelibre
There's quite a bit of talk in the thread about Putin being some kind of moral beacon.

Sex for the motherland: Russian youths encouraged to procreate at camp
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-471324/Sex-motherland-Russian-youths-encouraged-procreate-camp.html

Russian Youth Group Encourages "More Sex" to Save Motherland from Dwindling Population
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | July 30, 2007 | John Jalsevac

Posted on Tue Jul 31 04:48:24 2007 by monomaniac

Russian Youth Group Encourages "More Sex" to Save Motherland from Dwindling Population

By John Jalsevac

MOSCOW, Russia, July 30, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A Russian nationalist youth group is encouraging youth to have more sex in an effort to combat the nation's devastating demographic crisis, reports the Daily Mail.

In a lengthy special report the Daily Mail documents the activities of the Nashi youth movement, which is sponsoring a summer camp attended by some 10,000 Russian youth this summer. Not only are Nashi organizers encouraging the youth to have more sex, but they have designated a special area at the dormitories, the Love Oasis, for young men and women to engage in sexual intercourse. According to the Mail, condoms are unavailable in the camp.

"They [The pre-historic mammoths] became extinct because they did not have enough sex. That must not happen to Russia," said a Nashi organizer to a group of assembled campers.

The nationalistic camp involves two weeks of lectures, reported by some Western sources as being little more than anti-Western "propaganda," as well as a strenuous regimen of physical exercise. Numerous young couples have also been married at the camp, with 25 couples being married at the beginning of the first week, and ten to be married at the beginning of the second.

While many people, especially in the West, are finding in the Kremlin-initiated, and Kremlin-loyal Nashi youth group a disturbing image of similar groups started up in Nazi-era Germany, the camp's approach to sex is further evidence that the Russian government is not unaware that a demographic crisis is leading the entire Russian nation towards an early grave.


Russia's President Wants to Turn Around Population Decline

James Brooke | Moscow30 November 2010

Russia's president devoted the largest part of his annual State of Russia speech to reversing Russia's population decline.

If Russian couples have a third child, they will get a baby bonus, better health care, and free land to build a house or dacha, Russian President Dmitri Medvedev promised in his annual State of Russia speech.

Political analysts were hoping to hear about missiles or democracy. Instead they got babies.

[...]

What he did not say is that Russia compensates for its aging workforce by importing about 10 million laborers a year from Central Asia. After the United States, Russia is now the second-largest importer of workers. This influx of overwhelmingly Muslim workers creates tensions in Russia, where the population is largely Orthodox Christian.



Russian Patriotism Unleashed by Georgian War
SPIEGEL ONLINE ^ | 10/15/2008 | Fred Weir

Posted on Thu Oct 16 18:47:42 2008 by neverdem

LETTER FROM MOSCOW

The war in Georgia has provoked unprecedented levels of patriosm in Russia. The majority of the population supported their army's actions in the Caucasus. And even the fiercest critics of the Kremlin have now become proud Russians.

Members of the Kremlin-loyal youth organisation "Nashi" wave flags and hold a banner during a protest in front of the US embassy in Moscow during the Georgia war.


Hit, kicked and bruised: beatings at Russian women’s prison caught on video
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2801291/posts

Russian Patriotism Unleashed by Georgian War
SPIEGEL ONLINE ^ | 10/15/2008 | Fred Weir

Posted on Thu Oct 16 18:47:42 2008 by neverdem

LETTER FROM MOSCOW

The war in Georgia has provoked unprecedented levels of patriosm in Russia. The majority of the population supported their army's actions in the Caucasus. And even the fiercest critics of the Kremlin have now become proud Russians.

Members of the Kremlin-loyal youth organisation "Nashi" wave flags and hold a banner during a protest in front of the US embassy in Moscow during the Georgia war.


Hit, kicked and bruised: beatings at Russian women’s prison caught on video
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2801291/posts

Ruthless Russia
American Thinker ^ | June 16, 2007 | Peter B. Martin
Excerpt:
Putin has created a very sophisticated youth movement made up of over 100,000 volunteers called "Nashi", much like a clone of the Nazi youth movement. It is a well-equipped, fanatical, nationalistic private army that is hostile to foreigners and to any political group opposing the Kremlin leadership. Their aggressive behavior is not only tolerated by the authorities but also even encouraged. They help re-enforce local police; wearing black attire, they aggressively beat anyone they consider hooligans or insurrectionist.

They have been taught to believe that the United States is actively preparing a pro-western revolution in their country and that they will thwart it. They have developed high-level recruiting and training camps right across the expanse of Russia. Not only are they schooled in a variety of military issues, they also have orientation courses in such esoteric subjects as gestalt therapy, to help them to survive under extreme conditions.


122 posted on 09/18/2013 6:07:47 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Nice to see you can dispute with facts. You know, like the fact that it won’t be Israel paying for the “regime change” (or whatever BS excuse the ‘liberal’ President uses), or their multimillion-dollar ships in danger from the russian “carrier-killer” missile ship that Putin just brought in?

And your mental genius aside, exactly why would I bother searching for - much less registering or commenting on - a site run by the most powerless, discredited political group in existence?


123 posted on 09/18/2013 10:43:28 PM PDT by Me1onCollie
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To: elhombrelibre
Very smart move.
1. Israel backs Obama, in order to curry favor on Iran.
2. Israel is taking no actual action. However, the statement, damages Sunni support for the rebels. Thus a weakened Assad survives ensuring stability.
124 posted on 09/18/2013 11:03:26 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Me1onCollie

You’re very strange, and your last sentence to me is just weird. I understand if English is not your first language why you’re having trouble writing clearly. And d.Did you notice that your Nazi type post was removed, by the way.


125 posted on 09/19/2013 2:02:16 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberal women now play the vagina card to win their arguments.)
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To: familyop

I’m sure some of our new Freepers think American Thinker is a Left wing pub. I’ve seen, lately, The Washington Times, National Review, and other long running conservative publications called Liberal. It’s as if anyone who isn’t pro-Putin isn’t a conservative. Now, if that’s not beyond weird, I don’t know what is.


126 posted on 09/19/2013 2:06:20 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberal women now play the vagina card to win their arguments.)
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To: mbennett203

“nothing good about what he does”.. WHAT? His handling of the gay movement is brilliant. He has defended Christians, 0bama will not. And Putin’s NOT a Muslim!


127 posted on 09/19/2013 10:27:40 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: rmlew

If Israel’s goal is to keep Assad in power, it is a smart move. If in fact they want him gone, it’s an incredibly stupid move, because no Arab country is going to want to openly take Israel’s side in any conflict. If Israel voices too much support for intervention on the side of the rebels, there goes the Saudi money.


128 posted on 09/19/2013 11:54:14 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: mojito
More likely it is all about natural gas.

The significant question to be asked at this point is what could bind Israel, Turkey, Qatar in a form of unholy alliance on the one side, and Assad's Syria, Iran, Russia and China on the other side, in such deadly confrontation over the political future of Syria? One answer is energy geopolitics.

129 posted on 09/22/2013 2:10:16 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Yehuda; Nextrush; montag813

I suppose that if one looks closely at Netenyahu’s comment, he is saying that he wants Assad’s government gone, not that he wants the FSA forces to win. However, here in real world, the defeat of one would mean the victory of the other.

Documented quotes on this issue are scarce, because apparently Netenyahu told his cabinet, some months ago, that they are not allowed to comment on the Syria policy. It is too volatile a matter. Rather uncharacteristically (for Israelis) they seem to have obeyed this veto and kept mum.

But the Syria policy seems to be very divisive in Israel. It cuts across several political fields. There is a fervent pro-Russia camp in Israeli politics, who don’t like to move against the Syrian govt for that reason. But lots of others don’t like this policy because in the long term it gives great power to Turkey. Turkey is virtually taking over northern Syria. The long term results of this will be resented by Cyprus and Greece.

I was talking to someone about this recently, who visited the area and knew all about Woodside Petroleum’s work in the Meditteranean gas fields. He said that Israel and Turkey do a lot of business, but are allies who can’t stand each other, and Turkey is an expansionist state.

Hot times ahead.


130 posted on 10/09/2013 12:46:48 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: MarMema

Yes - I agree - all this started when the gas fields were discovered. Ping to my post above.


131 posted on 10/09/2013 12:48:12 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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