Skip to comments.Gun control is not the answer
Posted on 09/17/2013 12:51:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVetEdited on 09/17/2013 1:46:33 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
More blood, more tears, more knee-jerk rhetoric about finding a solution for a bunch of different problems.
Those who knew Aaron Alexis -- the shooter who killed 12 and injured eight more at the Washington Navy Yard this week -- said he was a quiet, shy man.
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“but he was honorably discharged”
I believe this has been repeatedly disproved. His discharge was “General”, which is less than Honorable. Likely due to the ceiling shooting incident.
I think we can safely ignore this ignorant Son Of Barack'S.
Can this guy buy a Verb at Costco?
I am so sick of the use of the word “bunch”. Obama’s favorite word and now in vogue with every lame stream hack.
What a bunch on morons.
There’s an intermediate one called “General (Under Honorable Conditions)” IIRC.
Guns aren’t the problem. People are the problem.
Indeed, “gun control” contributes to the problem, because it makes ordinary citizens essentially helpless, thus encouraging kooks with any intent to shoot.
How many mass shootings happen at an NRA convention?
Of course gun control isn’t the solution for us. But the politicians view it differently: gun control probably IS the solution for them. After all, politicians prefer unarmed peasants.
As for the overall issue, the gun control problem is largely self-inflicted. We as gun owners have a real bad tendency to hide our light under a bushel basket. That is to say that most gun owners dont carry and those that do tend to carry concealed. Which might be OK from a tactical perspective, but in the long run just undercuts our position. Very few gun owners Open Carry the Tools of Liberty. And its not helping us one little bit.
Ask yourself: would the kind of senseless butchery weve seen in CT and DC and CO and other places have occurred if even 10% of the population Open Carried?
No, it probably would not.
And we also have to ask whether we would even be hearing the tired bleatings of the gun grabbers if 10% of the population Open Carried?
No, we probably would not.
So while we complain about the gun grabbers and fight them politically, it continues to be something of a rearguard effort. We could largely eliminate violent crime and get marginalize the gun grabbers in one fell swoop if just say one out of 4 or one out of 5 gunowners would just openly and proudly carry the Tools of Liberty as they went about their day to day business.
“CNN Gun control is not the answer”
Has Hell frozen over?
These mass shootings are extremely rare
and the only reason these morons do it is because of the massive media attention they get. the media is causing most mass shootings and the media know this and egg it on so that they can take away our guns.
The media has said that if you are angry thats what you should do and then you will become world famous and known forever. these idiots are just copy cats doing what they see on the media and the media knows this.
and since we pay attention to this crap then we are media puppets too.
we pay attention to mass shootings, trayvon, syria and other distractions when we should be focused on stopping the immigration Amnesty bill , the IRS scandal etc.
Really, if this is what qualifies as "journalism" at CNN, they need to fire the entire staff and send out for Chinese, which would be good for lunch, but I already ate, and tonight there's a game on that probably won't include the shooter, the NRA or any other random subject thrown together in a run-on sentence that my high school English teacher would have destroyed.
"Gun shops are illegal in Chicago."
"A sentence does not a paragraph make." - High School English Teacher
This is implicit in the name, "outlaw." Outlaws don't give a flying crap about the law.
The rest of us are just stupid dupes.
“Gun control is not the answer.”
That depends on the question.
If the question is “How can the self-appointed elites start the process to controlling the lives of everyone else?”, gun control is certainly the answer.
Does anyone know whether the contractor was under “affirmative action” [i.e., racial quota] pressure to hire blacks?
Aside from his abhorrent English, the author is trying to move the debate beyond banning guns. He does so as a leftist, so it’s annoying. But at least he’s not trying to obviously subvert the Bill Of Rights.
Do we call that an improvement?
I am informed by the always accurate Gondring that the Navy has updated its description of the shooter’s discharge to say that it was “honorable.”
It looks like he was honorably discharged.
The story has changed. Again.
In Obama’s America? How dare you!!
There was only one individual in all of history who was “always accurate” and I don’t think he uses the nickname “Gondring” on FR. Do you?
FOX has a copy of his Military record. Glowing reviews. Was busted from E3 to E2 over being missing, but was reinstated on appeal due to his being in jail for accidentally firing his firearm. Glowing reviews resume. Honorable discharge.
No banning AR15s after this??
Or at a gun store.
“Another day, another mass shooting in America.”
Stopped reading as soon as I saw that line of bullcrap.
Probsbly had them reissue the story so his son wouldn’t look bad and lent them some of his forgery templates to assist...
Is that gobeldy-speak for “medical?”
Maybe i’m missing something but the reports are saying he moved to DC just one month ago and within the month got a job that gave him access to the Navy shipyard and a security clearance? Does Lee Harvey Oswald getting a job at the Book Depository sound familiar?
From the article:
“With his honorable discharge, Alexis apparently was issued a government contractor access card that would have allowed him into the Navy Yard and other military installations, said Thomas Hoshko, chief executive of The Experts, a Hewlett-Packard subcontractor for which Alexis was working. His security clearance was updated in July.”
“The honorable discharge could help explain why Alexis, 34, apparently had no difficulty landing a civilian job. He moved from Fort Worth to Washington about a month ago, friends said, and was hired as an hourly tech employee for The Experts, which is updating computer systems at Navy and Marine Corps installations worldwide. He was scheduled to begin work at the Washington Navy Yard this month.”
Starting to smell a little fishy. I wonder if someone in the administration paid him big time to create a national incident that would get the knee-jerk type reaction from the public they need to move farther along on gun disarmamnt? Makes you wonder...
No, it means one didn’t quite meet the standards required by that branch of the service, had minor disciplinary, hygiene, attitude or behavioral problems, couldn’t adapt to military or naval service or is redundant.
And anyone who thinks it is, is a complete idiot.
“Outlaw” used to mean, back in merry olde England, that an egregious miscreant had been deprived of the protection of the law (by which killing him without benefit of trial was a crime in itself) and that any worthy citizen was then free to kill him in the name of the Crown.
In effect, declaring someone an outlaw made the rest of society into a posse. Made the Sheriff’s job easier.
I guess “Wanted: Dead or Alive” is the U.S. equivalent.
At least two of the dead were in IT. He “had a pass” according to presser woman. Was the floor he went to the floor where he was going work?
For a while I wondered if he was the real shooter. So far, the only person I have seen that claimed to have seen him shoot was a Major. I saw many that said they did not see the shooter because they were too busy running to take time to look.
The story is so convoluted that I don’t know what to make of it. Something reeks. Horrid reporting is probably the cause of the stench, but nothing surprises me anymore.
The elitist NWO fascists are absolutely horrified by these random mass shootings because they fear some nut could show up at one of their East Hampton cocktail parties and spray the punchbowl with evil AR-15 bullets.
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