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This high school is teaching kids a different version of the Second Amendment
The Daily Caller ^ | 9/17/2013 | Robby Soave

Posted on 09/17/2013 2:10:29 PM PDT by markomalley

A Texas high school is using a textbook that changes the wording of the Second Amendment to weaken gun rights.

The Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States reads: “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

But at Guyer High School in Denton, Texas, an Advanced Placement U.S. History textbook has rewritten the Second Amendment as: “The people have a right to keep and bear arms in a state militia.”

The AP version of the Second Amendment may be easier for students to remember, but its text appears to weaken the protections afforded to gun owners in the Bill of Rights.

“The textbook’s version implies that only state-sanctioned police or military forces are allowed to carry a gun, which is neither correct, nor the intention of the founders,” according to Rare, a conservative website.

The wording of other amendments is also changed. The textbook says that the First Amendment prohibits Congress from favoring one religion over another, when in fact it says that Congress shall make no law “respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”

An article on The Daily Paul asked conservative parents to demand answers from the school district’s board of trustees.

The trustees of Denton Independent School District did not respond to requests for comment.

The textbook has received highly negative reviews on Amazon.com.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; academicbias; ayers; billayers; common; commoncore; constitution; indoctrination; littleredschoolhouse; naughtyteacherslist; reeducationcenters; secondamendment
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1 posted on 09/17/2013 2:10:29 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Common Core. Developed by terrorist bomber Bill Ayers.


2 posted on 09/17/2013 2:12:30 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When your policy is to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can count on enthusiastic support from Paul.)
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To: markomalley

Is the name of the textbook “American Pageant”?


3 posted on 09/17/2013 2:13:43 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: WayneS

Never mind! I found the answer.
It is not.


4 posted on 09/17/2013 2:14:30 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: markomalley

WE must fight this crap
luckily there are many conservatives around here who will jump all over that


5 posted on 09/17/2013 2:15:39 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: markomalley

Just an oversight, I’m sure.


6 posted on 09/17/2013 2:15:56 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: markomalley

The constitution means nothing to leftists (other than an obstruction) and most people in this country are more concerned with Monday Night Football than with God given rights. The only thing that surprises me is that this technique is not tried more often.


7 posted on 09/17/2013 2:17:43 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: markomalley

I can see this in Minnesota. BUT TEXAS?!?


8 posted on 09/17/2013 2:20:35 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Support Free Republic!!!)
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To: markomalley

translation.....the Constitution doesnt require!!!

an INTERPRETIVE version...doth Not Belongeth in a Textbook


9 posted on 09/17/2013 2:21:32 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: markomalley
Info about the book in question:

"United States History: Preparing for the Advanced Placement Examination (Paperback) Unknown Binding
by John J. Newman (Author)"

Which leads me to wonder what exactly is being asked on the advanced placement exam.

10 posted on 09/17/2013 2:21:34 PM PDT by fulltlt
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To: markomalley
I tried to find one of the reviews that gave it 5 stars just to see what kind of idiot would think that this book was good. After “nexting” 5 pages I gave up.

The 5 stars were probably the author’s family and friends, mother, father, grandparents, etc...

11 posted on 09/17/2013 2:22:13 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: All

Denton Texas? anyone have any insider info on the place?


12 posted on 09/17/2013 2:23:35 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
A family-friendly college town, Denton hosts the University of North Texas, Texas Women’s University, and North Central Texas College. Young residents thrive in the arts and music scene while families ....

http://www.bestoftheroad.com/town/denton-tx/3072

this may afford a clue as the character of this particular Texas Town!
13 posted on 09/17/2013 2:26:10 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: markomalley
Here is a link to goodreads. A lot more favorable.

I am going to read the “positive” reviews. Should be interesting.

Have fun adding your own reviews.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/172807.United_States_History

14 posted on 09/17/2013 2:26:50 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: markomalley

Book burning is in order


15 posted on 09/17/2013 2:29:13 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: markomalley

When I was in college, one of my textbooks said something similar except perhaps even worse. I pointed out to my professor that I disagreed with the textbook.

To my surprise, he agreed with me but said it was one of those things he didn’t want to get into in the class.

Now that the Supreme Court has made a decision that it is an individual right, a lot of old textbooks will have to be changed. At least they should be.


16 posted on 09/17/2013 2:29:48 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: markomalley

You’d be surprised, or maybe not, at how many times I found lies, cough, errors, cough in Texas approved history books throughout the years.


17 posted on 09/17/2013 2:29:56 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: dhs12345

Here is another.

From the review, it looks like a bunch of brainwashed students who had no choice gave it a thumbs up.


18 posted on 09/17/2013 2:30:29 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

Gota post the link:

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/united-states-history-john-j-newman/1116748380?ean=9781567656602&itm=1&usri=9781567656602


19 posted on 09/17/2013 2:30:51 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: markomalley

Dumbing down the Constitution, because all our children are brighter and more hard-working than average...you can tell because they all take the AP...


20 posted on 09/17/2013 2:33:30 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: markomalley

21 posted on 09/17/2013 2:34:29 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: dhs12345

does anyone think its just one school?

has this school commented on this yet?


22 posted on 09/17/2013 2:37:22 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

public school is public school

it does not matter where they are located


23 posted on 09/17/2013 2:37:51 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: MeshugeMikey

it’s a public school that is really all the info you should need, the location is immaterial, it is a public school no matter where it is located


24 posted on 09/17/2013 2:38:46 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

Looks like a lot of schools use it. Or at least more than one.

And I am betting no if they still recommend it to their students.


25 posted on 09/17/2013 2:42:19 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo; Jim Robinson
Jim, I'm not sure you know this:

Whatever that book is, I can almost assure it wasn't approved by our state board on text books. We elect those people and there is always a high number of really, really, conservative people on that board and the liberals yell every year. So, I'm wondering if those books were bought by the school itself for that advanced class.

I've put this info. on this forum before. Texas buys more textbooks than any other state, so book companies write their books so our conservatives will approve the book. Once our people approve a textbook, then the publisher prints them for all states.

If parts of the book aren't approved, our people will re-write those parts for the publisher to change the book before printing the final copies. Any book that doesn't get approved, means the publisher is going to lose money due to the number of books our state buys.

When I put this info. on before, some didn't believe our people on the board were conservative - well, the majority have been for at least the last fifteen years because I knew about it. Republicans running for that board, go to Republican meetings in counties in their district and make their pitch to be elected. “We don't approve no rinos.”

Much of the time, the liberals get so mad at those meetings, they walk out.

We do the best we can in Texas to give us truthful textbooks and that means your state gets truthful textbooks, too. You can fault our Texas system if you want, but I know it works as well as one could.

26 posted on 09/17/2013 2:43:32 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: 1rudeboy

You know, this sort of “history modification” was done in the USSR, right? And, didn’t the USSR fall?


27 posted on 09/17/2013 2:52:53 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

“I can see this in Minnesota. BUT TEXAS?!?”

Oh, I can see it. Texas is a LARGE buyer of textbooks and highly influential in the purchase of textbooks by other states.

Which is why it was so important that Texas get this book.


28 posted on 09/17/2013 2:55:31 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: The Antiyuppie

USSR never existed. It has always been Mother Russia.

And Oceania has always been at war with East Asia.


29 posted on 09/17/2013 2:56:01 PM PDT by donmeaker (Youth is wasted on the young.)
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To: markomalley

A great teaching opportunity. Tell the kids to read the REAL Constitution. Then ask them why they think their teacher would change the wording.


30 posted on 09/17/2013 2:56:50 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: GeronL
"public school is public school

it does not matter where they are located"

Exactly. Even here in conservative Idaho, the fuzzy headed Commiefornians are taking over school district after school district, because conservatives are sitting back and letting it happen.

If we as a nation survive another 20 years, we're going to have an even bigger nightmare scenario on our hands than we have now, as Generation.com starts to come into its own, and take the reins of government.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

31 posted on 09/17/2013 3:00:12 PM PDT by wku man (It's almost deer season, got your DEERGOGGLES on yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jexrnFq2fXY)
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To: dhs12345
All the 5-star reviews are here. In descending date order. Check this one that was posted on 9/13:I can't comment further without JimRob banishing me for life :)
32 posted on 09/17/2013 3:03:15 PM PDT by upchuck (The nobama regime: a string of omnishambles that stretches, seemingly, to infinity.)
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To: upchuck

I can’t comment further without JimRob banishing me for life :)


There were 31 comments on the 9/13 review. Here is the first one from A. Alkema.

This is a high school class. These students are impressionable and about to enter a college experience HEAVILY biased in one direction (left). It’s just plain irresponsible text book writing to input your personal interpretation into what ought to be an unbiased presentation of the facts. There is no excuse for an adult professional to manipulate their position like this. And parents who care about the facts their children are learning would do well to ensure they don’t read this type of book. You can bet if this slipped in, there are other historical inaccuracies as well. It’s the larger patter of this consistently happening in the production of text books that brings us “second amendment creeps” out. Although I think most of us would prefer to be called “Constitutional creeps” since it’s not just the 2nd amendment we care about....


33 posted on 09/17/2013 3:19:17 PM PDT by rwa265 (Compete well for the faith, lay hold of eternal life (1 Timothy 6))
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To: wku man

frightening prospect


34 posted on 09/17/2013 3:24:15 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: upchuck

Thanks. I wonder if they’d be eager to recommend it if, for example, the book “summarized” the history on slavery in the US or something near and dear to them.

Also, so colleges are teaching this too? Wonderful.


35 posted on 09/17/2013 3:28:00 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: rwa265

The constitution and the Bill of Rights are remarkably concise; hence there’s no legitimate reason to paraphrase or summarize any clause. All that can happen is a change in the original meaning. Students must be taught the original language and then encouraged to discuss that language in it’s historic context.


36 posted on 09/17/2013 3:50:10 PM PDT by libstripper (] ws)
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To: markomalley

IF they taught the correct definition of the militia in the class, it would be correct:

“I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials.”
— George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on
Ratification of the Constitution

“The militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves, ... all men capable of bearing arms;...”
— “Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republic”, 1788 (either Richard Henry Lee or Melancton Smith).

Unfortunately, that is not how it is taught. Some idiots try to argue that the National Guard is the militia - which it manifestly is NOT.

A “Well Regulated Militia” consists private citizens with their own military grad weapons.

http://www.constitution.org/mil/cs_milit.htm


37 posted on 09/17/2013 3:58:58 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: markomalley

Texas. Huh. Waiting for someone to tell me how rock solid Texas is.


38 posted on 09/17/2013 4:16:58 PM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: The Antiyuppie

Wasn’t Texas a leader in adding Muslim propaganda to its history lessons as well?


39 posted on 09/17/2013 4:21:04 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: markomalley

Their 1st Amendment summary is just as bad throwing in the “separation of church and state” phrase.


40 posted on 09/17/2013 6:14:52 PM PDT by DrewsDad (Environmental Extremism Eventually Endangers Everyone)
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To: DrewsDad

I bet it would be really surprising to see how many people think “separation of church and state” is in the Constitution. I guess some think it is there by inference but I sure can’t find it.


41 posted on 09/17/2013 6:21:11 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: yarddog

The first amendment says the government cannot interfere in your faith it does not say churches can’t mention political matters.


42 posted on 09/17/2013 6:25:16 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

It says the government cannot interfere with religion and that the Congress shall not establish a religion. For instance “The Church of the United States” in the manner of Scotland’s “Church of Scotland” or Presbyterian Church.


43 posted on 09/17/2013 6:32:22 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: GeronL

a leftist agenda remains...incoherent from location to location....? /s


44 posted on 09/17/2013 6:58:12 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: Marcella

Amen to that. I have seen some of those meetings on TV. The libs get their panties in a wad. You can almost see the steam coming out of their ears. Saw some of them get up and stomp out because they weren’t getting their way.

I can’t remember all the stuff, but one of things they wanted was to quit with all the teaching of the early American History.

They wanted to start with more like the Woodrow Wilson period forward with emphasis on progressive type milestones - all to make it more relevant for the children doncha know?

I’d be interested to know exactly how this text came to be in use. There’s no doubt a money trail of some kind some where.


45 posted on 09/17/2013 8:25:38 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Common Core. Developed by terrorist bomber Bill Ayers.

And capitalized by Bill Gates.

46 posted on 09/17/2013 8:42:56 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Young residents thrive in the arts and music scene while families ....
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You found a load of BS written by some limp-wrist who is attempting to depict the universities as havens for liberals. Not true.

Denton is part of the DFW Metroplex. I earned my BBA at NTSU (now UNT), which has a great business school and also covers the various sciences, including meteorology.

Back to topic....... It’s disgusting that such a textbook could have been approved for use in high schools, with such glaring errors. ....The books should be removed NOW.


47 posted on 09/17/2013 10:21:00 PM PDT by octex
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To: Marcella

We do the best we can in Texas to give us truthful textbooks and that means your state gets truthful textbooks, too. You can fault our Texas system if you want, but I know it works as well as one could.
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Very good overall posting, Marcella. I recall watching the TX textbook board on TV a couple of years ago when a liberal female member threw a rant and walked out because the majority would not accept her preferred language.


48 posted on 09/17/2013 10:33:40 PM PDT by octex
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To: octex

The leftist schools get around the SBOE, they can add their own material and recommended reading lists. For a while they were doing their own curriculum through CSCOPE but that has apparently been put under SBOE recently.

Public schools are public schools, it does not matter where they are located.


49 posted on 09/17/2013 10:36:45 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: rwa265

When I was a freshman in HS we had a Civics class that was mandatory. .......In addition to textbooks, each student should be required to have one of the pocket sized books of the Constitution... and be tested on the contents!

That might help the kids to better recognize in later grades and college (if they go) when the texts and teachers are not telling the truth.


50 posted on 09/17/2013 10:47:49 PM PDT by octex
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