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Will Israel be the World's First ‘No Cash’ Society?
INN ^ | 9/17/2013, 9:38 PM | David Lev

Posted on 09/17/2013 2:23:47 PM PDT by Olog-hai

The government on Tuesday authorized establishment of a committee that will examine ways to eliminate cash from the Israeli economy—the better to prevent citizens from cheating on their taxes. The committee will be chaired by Harel Locker, director of the Prime Minister’s Office.

Cash is easily passed from individual to individual, and transactions using cash can take place without the tax man’s supervision. Not so electronic transactions; with modern computers, banks can keep tabs on how much people deposit into their accounts and how much they withdraw, while credit card companies have an up-to-the-second record of how much people spend. …

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 666; biggovernment; cashlesssociety; creditcards; etransactions; surveillancestate; taxfraud
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

It isn’t superstition, FRiend.... it is the Word.


21 posted on 09/17/2013 2:54:02 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Olog-hai
This will have to be adapted (and probably improved) for the Israeli market.


22 posted on 09/17/2013 2:55:53 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Olog-hai

Revelation 13 much?


23 posted on 09/17/2013 3:01:54 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Correct.


24 posted on 09/17/2013 3:14:47 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Olog-hai
One way or another, crypto-cash is the future. People will exchange "value" on an as-needed basis, and no one will know who is paying, or who is receiving, and no one will know amounts. Governments will be cut out of the loop entirely, and the world will change.

It's not easy to do, and no one has done it yet, but I have no doubt that anonymous and untraceable money is coming soon -- the demand will make it unstoppable.

25 posted on 09/17/2013 3:48:59 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: Olog-hai

As much as I admire the Israelis, the socialist streak runs deep in them.


26 posted on 09/17/2013 3:56:22 PM PDT by BfloGuy (People who know what theyÂ’re talking about donÂ’t need PowerPoint.)
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To: Olog-hai

As the author admitted, people will just use dollars or euros. But they could certainly use bitcoins, gold, silver or barter as well. Enforcement would require a vicious and expensive police state.


27 posted on 09/17/2013 4:20:52 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: seeker41

I doubt it for at least 20 years.


28 posted on 09/17/2013 4:43:33 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I rarely use cash. I have EZ pass for tolls and pay everything through Internet or credit card. It is actually great.


29 posted on 09/17/2013 4:46:14 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

It could be partly symbolic, indicating allegiance in thought and deed. The entire book of Revelation is packed with symbols. Still it will NOT be good. It will be the ultimate rebellion against God and it will almost seem to succeed, until it falls like the house of cards it is.


31 posted on 09/17/2013 8:41:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Yehuda

You priders of yourself in the law equate church clubs with Christians. That’s like equating lightning bugs with lightning. When you meet actual gospel there will be NO mistake about what it is.


33 posted on 09/17/2013 8:49:05 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Yehuda
Yeah so deep

Oh, calm down. My statement that "socialism runs deep" is historical fact for the state of Israel. Israel's economy was hamstrung for decades by the government's socialist policies and its state-run enterprises.

You're too sensitive. Mine was not an anti-Semitic statement nor was it even anti-Israel. I have a deep admiration for the Israelis. I just hope they'll continue to free up their economy.

35 posted on 09/18/2013 2:48:20 PM PDT by BfloGuy (People who know what theyÂ’re talking about donÂ’t need PowerPoint.)
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To: Rusty0604; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; albertp; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; amchugh; ...
According to many of these officials, cash is bad – because it allows individuals to get out of their tax payment responsibilities ... In a cashless economy, all records will be electronic, and checking who makes what and how much they owe in taxes – and collecting it before it gets to their account – will be a much simpler matter, the theory goes.



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36 posted on 09/19/2013 9:59:23 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Yehuda

Way off base amigo. So far I don’t know where to start.


37 posted on 09/19/2013 10:06:36 PM PDT by SteelTrap
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To: ClearCase_guy

The obstacle I see is that much of commerce is moving online. You know, brick and mortar bookstores going out of business because they can’t compete with Amazon, so now there’s no place where you can physically go and buy a book for cash.

So let’s assume for the sake of argument that you can come up with anonymous digital cash that can be used when shopping online. I’ve heard convincing arguments both ways on this issue from people who are evidently smarter than I am. I have no idea, but let’s assume it’s possible. But if you buy something online, it has to be shipped to you, so you have to give them your address. So how can you anonymize the transaction?

The only thing I can think of (and this would take a significant infrastructure commitment, but no more significant than moving all commerce online) would be to have the goods shipped to some pickup site (picture a wall of lockers), and the code you get when you complete your transaction unlocks the locker. You get an email, through some anonymizing intermediary that tells you when the goods have arrived at the locker facility. It should actually save on shipping as goods that now get delivered to 5,000 different houses in town would all be going to the locker facility instead.

Has anyone given this issue any thought, and if so, what are your ideas?


38 posted on 09/20/2013 7:43:45 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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