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Family: Ransom demand made in case of kidnapped Clayton County girl
AJC ^

Posted on 09/17/2013 4:25:20 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

The home invaders who kidnapped a 14-year-old girl from a Clayton County home have made a $10,000 ransom demand, family members said Tuesday.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: blackcrime

1 posted on 09/17/2013 4:25:20 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

I can’t imagine how I would feel if those two had my child.


2 posted on 09/17/2013 4:27:46 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: yarddog

There should be orders to shoot them on sight.


3 posted on 09/17/2013 4:28:26 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I hope these two dumb thugs don’t botch this kidnapping so that it all goes wrong and the girl ends up getting hurt. I would think that a “successful” kidnapping requires a plan. I have no doubt that these thugs will get caught - I just hope that the girl ends up being safe.


4 posted on 09/17/2013 4:33:22 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

If Obammy had 2 sons...they would look like..................................”

BINGO!


5 posted on 09/17/2013 4:36:31 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: Red in Blue PA

$10,000?!

High-Rollers

/s


6 posted on 09/17/2013 4:37:14 PM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Phony President)
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To: Red in Blue PA

$10,000!

They could get that much from rent subsidies, Food Stamps, and heating assistance, and just stay home and drink all day.


7 posted on 09/17/2013 4:42:35 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Red in Blue PA

“Ayvani’s mother tried to hide her and her 15-year-old brother when the men entered the home … but to no avail.”

Wonder how she would have “availed” if she had an AR-15 or 9mm in the home.

IMHO anti-gunners deserve to burn in Hell for the misery they cause (but that is not up to me, it is up to God).


8 posted on 09/17/2013 4:45:07 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: 21twelve

If they haven’t already done her in. Somebody needs to go Zimmerman on they’re a$$es.


9 posted on 09/17/2013 4:45:26 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: zeestephen

ax’n so little smells of guilt.....scares me


10 posted on 09/17/2013 4:45:45 PM PDT by advertising guy ( Congress should not be afraid of Rush Limbaugh, Congress should be petrified of God)
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To: Red in Blue PA

If these feral holderites keep pushing, the general order will be to shoot on site, in general.

Hey, wonder why we no longer hear about Somali ship-jackers? Could be shoot first, ask questions later?


11 posted on 09/17/2013 4:52:43 PM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Dallas59

Two blacks kidnap a black girl. Where’s Sharpton?

More and more people better arm themselves. Holder’s people are out of control.


12 posted on 09/17/2013 4:55:39 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Darteaus94025
They must be real stupid if they think they will get away with this. I hope they forget about the money and let the girl go. It's so ridiculous it looks like a hoax.
13 posted on 09/17/2013 5:02:43 PM PDT by peeps36 (I'm Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags f All Colors)
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To: peeps36

“They must be real stupid if they think they will get away with this.”

40% of the American Black population tests at the 80 IQ level or below.


14 posted on 09/17/2013 5:07:08 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: peeps36

The likelihood is that the child is already dead. That is the norm in these things. I hope it is otherwise but it usually isn’t.


15 posted on 09/17/2013 5:13:41 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: VerySadAmerican
Two blacks kidnap a black girl.

If her name is Guerrero, she's probably more hispanic. Nevertheless, your comment holds true. He's only concerned if the actors aren't black.

16 posted on 09/17/2013 5:18:42 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Red in Blue PA

Prayers for Ayvani and her loved ones. This does not look good.


17 posted on 09/17/2013 5:21:27 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: GladesGuru

“40% of the American Black population tests at the 80 IQ level or below.”

http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_nonblack_version_john_derbyshire/print#axzz2c4GaJxGN

The link is an interesting analysis of the dangers of black mobs. (All mobs are dangerous, but black mobs more-so). One big difference is it just takes a few idiots to make poor decisions to get the entire mob out of control. (Several bullet-points on the I.Q. aspect that you mention).


18 posted on 09/17/2013 5:27:24 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

This sort of thing gets police very motivated.

Hopefully when they catch the kidnappers they are none too gentle in doing so. These guys are going to have to go down hard, or every useless Obama relative is going to think that kidnapping is his lottery ticket.


19 posted on 09/17/2013 5:32:57 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: Red in Blue PA
The sick world that we live in makes me suspicious of the mother saying that she tried ‘to hide’ her kids, as though it would fit into the narrative of a kidnapping.
20 posted on 09/17/2013 5:56:00 PM PDT by bramps (Obama, Democrats, and Planned Parenthood: The biggest fans of chemical weapons on the planet)
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To: Red in Blue PA

RANSOM demands? Are we really talking about events in the Atlanta area in the year 2013, or is this a mislabeled story from a third-world country?


21 posted on 09/17/2013 6:13:42 PM PDT by seacapn
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Kidnapping was a capital offense at one time.


22 posted on 09/17/2013 6:39:52 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: PghBaldy

I am actually pretty surprised that there hasn’t been more kidnapping in the US. In Mexico it is steady work. Here is a rather hideous example from about a month ago.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57599998/mass-kidnapping-beheadings-disturb-mexico-city/


23 posted on 09/17/2013 6:46:51 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: bramps

Something definitely is off here.... I dunno....


24 posted on 09/18/2013 3:22:58 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: seacapn

And the community is”fundraising” for ransom money? This is the freaking Twilight zone!!

No, there is way more to this story.

If that were for real, the FBI would obviously put up the money to catch these twerps.

So much stinks about this story.


25 posted on 09/18/2013 3:51:29 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: Red in Blue PA

How did they get a composite if they were masked?


26 posted on 09/18/2013 3:52:11 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: DrewsMum

Community fundraising for ransom makes me think the whole thing was cooked up to create a pretext for the fundraiser.


27 posted on 09/18/2013 3:59:26 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

I really don’t know.... But, why would the family PUBLICIZE the ransom demand? (aside from fundraising).... Surely the FBI would want to provide some traceable cash....

And when is the exchange supposed to happen? And where? This is all twisted.

If they were ONLY after money, why go into an occupied house? That neighborhood is full homes....why THAT one? Weird.


28 posted on 09/18/2013 4:48:02 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: DrewsMum

Implication would be that the “victim” was in on the whole thing.


29 posted on 09/18/2013 5:16:13 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

or the brother?

Of course it could all be legit....

Now ransom has changed? Up to 100,000...

Something definitely fishy.


30 posted on 09/18/2013 6:01:40 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: DrewsMum
Now ransom has changed? Up to 100,000...

When they wrote the original ransom note, they likely made a mistake and left off one of the zeros. Remember, these are products of publik child abuse, er, I mean edumacation.

Cut them some slack. Remember, they don't even have to keep track how many stamps they have left in of a book of food stamps. The cash register automatically reads the amount left on their EBT/SNAP cards, so they don't get much practice with numbers any more.

31 posted on 09/18/2013 7:11:16 AM PDT by Gritty (Nobody wants to hear about American exceptionalism when the issue is American ineffectualism-MSteyn)
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To: Red in Blue PA
There should be orders to shoot them on sight.

If the child had been found and was safe, I'd agree. But she could be stashed somewhere and die of dehydration and starvation if they are killed.

32 posted on 09/18/2013 7:31:35 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: bramps
The sick world that we live in makes me suspicious of the mother saying that she tried ‘to hide’ her kids, as though it would fit into the narrative of a kidnapping.

Yep.

33 posted on 09/18/2013 7:34:24 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: DrewsMum
Now ransom has changed? Up to 100,000...

I guess she wasn't "Kidnapped by K-Mart".

34 posted on 09/18/2013 7:35:20 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: RegulatorCountry

Just read a story that mom had a connection with the kidnappers.

She was arrested with one of the guys last year. BINGO!


35 posted on 09/18/2013 4:53:48 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: DrewsMum
The whole “gimme money pleeeaase, they took my baby” had scam written all over it, I've had street people try that one on me before, usually to pay utilities so social services would give them their kids back.

Once had one clearly stoned woman claim her infant was in her car that had been impounded, and she had to get her car out of the impound lot to feed her baby, she need her formula, need it bad.

It was just a matter of time. Hope there's a way to recover the “ransom” and give it back to the kindhearted but gullible people who responded to their pleading.

36 posted on 09/18/2013 6:53:10 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
I am actually pretty surprised that there hasn’t been more kidnapping in the US.

It's because the FBI comes down on kidnappers like the wrath of God. They have for a generation.

Tends to dampen the trade.

37 posted on 09/18/2013 6:57:26 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: yarddog
I can’t imagine how I would feel if those two had my child.

I can tell you how I'd feel: I'd shoot the bastards dead right between their eyes the moment I laid my eyes on 'em, and there would be nothing that could stop me from doing it. Period.

I'd be doing society a favor and I suspect any right-thinking jury would conclude the same.

38 posted on 09/18/2013 7:00:16 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

If they were returned unharmed, I don’t thing I would just shoot them down like dogs.

If they were murdered etc., then yes I would do everything in my power to see they were wiped off the face of the earth.


39 posted on 09/18/2013 7:38:53 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: EternalVigilance

Typically the FBI only gets involved in interstate kidnapping, or when a child under 12 is kidnapped. While they will track and offer assistance in other kidnapping cases, they will not directly involve themselves unless asked.

I’m not alone in wondering why a lot of the stuff the cartels are doing south of the border hasn’t moved north. They are kind of enigmatic that way.

They will send killers north to kill an opposing cartel member who has fled up here, and they are pretty bold in doing so. Plus, years ago, they stopped the war between the Crips and Bloods in L.A., because it was bad for business.

But profitable sidelines like kidnapping, blackmail and protection rackets have stayed down there - at least as far as the cartels are concerned.

At the same time, the Honduras based international MS-13 gang has had no problems migrating its activities up here. They even got into a brawl with the FBI, who immediately rounded up some 200 of them. Made a dent in their estimated US numbers of 8,000.

One of their mottos is “mata, roba, viola, controla” (”Kill, steal, rape, control”). Domestically, the group is involved in multiple crimes including murder, racketeering, drug trafficking, sex trafficking and human trafficking including prostitution.

They could do this so readily, it makes you wonder why the cartels haven’t as well?


40 posted on 09/18/2013 7:44:28 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: yarddog
If they were returned unharmed, I don’t thing I would just shoot them down like dogs.

Some scumball piece of shat like the two in those pictures touch someone in my family and they've signed their own death warrant.

That's just the way its gotta be in today's world.

41 posted on 09/18/2013 7:45:15 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Interesting post.

To my knowledge, the FBI almost always finds a pretext for getting involved in kidnapping cases.


42 posted on 09/18/2013 7:47:31 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Red in Blue PA

The link headline now reads that the Girl has been found.


43 posted on 09/18/2013 8:26:17 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post))
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To: EternalVigilance

It’s not just that. For decades the feds have been encroaching on state authority by making redundant laws, then inserting themselves into “interesting” and “high profile” cases.

This was exacerbated by the FBI’s “We’re in charge, it’s our case, get out of the way” attitude to local and state authorities, that bred a lot of resentment in them.

Much of it began during the Civil Rights years in the 1960s, when local and state authorities (and juries) would both disregard the law (on the down side), or obey the letter of the law (on the upside).

That is, at first, the feds would intervene because racism was involved; but later this turned into intervention because people they wanted persecuted were not being persecuted. Back then, a case like Zimmerman-Martin, when he was acquitted, the feds would immediately charge him with a redundant charge, like violating Martin’s civil rights.

Fortunately the states adapted to this corruption, so they try cases to guarantee that the feds can’t pull stunts like this. The Zimmerman case, for example, was filled with reversible errors that favored the prosecution, which would have in turn hopelessly fouled a federal case.

The big problem these days is that the feds have gone so nonsensically hog wild, both with domestic intelligence gathering (via 16 major intelligence agencies), and 100+ federal police agencies, *and* giving police authority to non-intelligence and non-police agencies, that the level of *inefficiency* has just skyrocketed.

These agencies are collecting immense piles of utterly useless minutiae, which even when data mined produce little or nothing of value; while at the same time they have been ordered to ignore real threats that are plain and obvious even to laymen.

The end result creates the impression that the federal government is a blind, angry and upset imbecile, swinging around a broom at a group of wicked small boys who are throwing road apples at him.


44 posted on 09/19/2013 6:29:24 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: Rebelbase

Yep. Mother testified about a 500lb bale of marijuana held by a Mexican. The Mexican walked on a technicality. He was involved in the kidnapping.


45 posted on 09/19/2013 6:35:24 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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