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Police Find 5 Skeletons, 2 Cars Missing For Decades On Oklahoma Lake Bottom
Breitbart ^ | September 18, 2013 | Dan Riehl

Posted on 09/18/2013 6:26:33 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici

Police testing new sonar equipment during a training exercise at Foss Lake in Oklahoma discovered five skeletons inside a blue 1969 Chevy Camaro and a 1950s-era vehicle perhaps linked to the early 1960's disappearance of a couple.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: lake; leo; missing; oklahoma; police; skeletons; sonar
Interesting stuff
1 posted on 09/18/2013 6:26:33 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: VeniVidiVici

Too bad they don’t have a photo of the ‘69 Camaro.
Wonder if it’s restorable.


2 posted on 09/18/2013 6:29:32 AM PDT by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don’t need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

6th body found.


3 posted on 09/18/2013 6:30:02 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: VeniVidiVici

A few years ago a car was pulled up from one of the lakes around Madison, Wisconsin, with two young guys who’d been missing for 45 years. At least some closure for those families, and hopefully for these families, too.


4 posted on 09/18/2013 6:30:24 AM PDT by Kharis13 (That noise you hear is our Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: Liberty Valance

omg

what happened


5 posted on 09/18/2013 6:30:38 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Iron Munro

Pic at link:

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/17/20547251-cold-wet-cases-oklahoma-troopers-stumble-on-six-bodies-in-two-cars-at-bottom-of-lake?lite


6 posted on 09/18/2013 6:30:57 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: VeniVidiVici
What the heck are police doing with sonar??? That's military equipment, not police equipment - what happened with ".. to protect and to serve ..."?
7 posted on 09/18/2013 6:31:28 AM PDT by Ken522
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To: Ken522

Sonar Is useful for this sort of stuff. Also Fishfinders are a form of sonar.


8 posted on 09/18/2013 6:33:32 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: VeniVidiVici
Call Geraldo! One of the skeletons could be Jimmy Hoffa!
9 posted on 09/18/2013 6:33:36 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Constitution Day

Bitchin’


10 posted on 09/18/2013 6:34:06 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Ken522

The Cops prob did not own the sonor set they may have rented or leased it for this application.


11 posted on 09/18/2013 6:37:23 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Ken522

Use it to find cars at the bottom of lakes and stuff like that.


12 posted on 09/18/2013 6:41:08 AM PDT by OKSooner (What's the NCAA gonna do, suspend OSU from the first half of its first game next season?)
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To: Iron Munro

Lots of photos. The Camaro was about torn in half during the recovery and the rest is all but gone due to corrosion.


13 posted on 09/18/2013 6:42:36 AM PDT by wrench
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To: Iron Munro
Too bad they don’t have a photo of the ‘69 Camaro.

Wonder if it’s restorable.

The one on the left looks pretty messed up.

14 posted on 09/18/2013 6:43:45 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Ken522
Looking for some good fishing spots.


15 posted on 09/18/2013 6:47:29 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Iron Munro
Restorable? Heck, there are Camaros on the road that look worse than this............
16 posted on 09/18/2013 6:47:37 AM PDT by Red Badger (It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong. .....Voltaire)
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To: VeniVidiVici
Trooper George Hoyle, who was driving the boat that located the vehicles Sept. 10, told the Daily News that the two cars were side by side in about 12 feet of water.

There must have been some problem with the road to the lake, or markings.

They were last seen on Nov. 20, 1970, in Jimmy's car — a blue 1969 Camaro,

In 1973, I worked for Beckham and Custer County as a state trooper, and I heard rumors that sometime in the early '60s there were two or three people in a car, and they were last seen in Canute," Peoples told the Elk City newspaper. "They were headed for Foss Lake and never seen again."

Two cases, separated by nearly 10 years, yet the cars end up side-by-side. What's the common factor?

17 posted on 09/18/2013 6:48:08 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Iron Munro

Pics on Foxnews.com. Roof gone, rusty, not repairable.


18 posted on 09/18/2013 6:49:33 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Red Badger

You can buy brand new bodies and parts for the 69 camaro....


19 posted on 09/18/2013 6:49:58 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: OKSooner
Didn't something like this happen in Georgia once?
20 posted on 09/18/2013 6:50:15 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Kharis13

A few years ago a car was found in a lake in Kansas, with the body of a man from Milwaukie.

http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/state/kansas/body-found-in-car-in-bottom-of-kansas-lake-identified-as-wisconsin-man-missing-since-1984


21 posted on 09/18/2013 6:50:46 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: central_va
You can buy brand new bodies and parts for the 69 camaro....

Why? This one came with 3..........

22 posted on 09/18/2013 6:51:01 AM PDT by Red Badger (It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong. .....Voltaire)
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To: justlurking

I’m guessing a curve in the road or some such.


23 posted on 09/18/2013 6:51:48 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Ken522

You can buy sonar at Bass Pro Shop all day long...............


24 posted on 09/18/2013 6:52:02 AM PDT by Red Badger (It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong. .....Voltaire)
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To: Red Badger
Why? This one came with 3.........,

LOL

25 posted on 09/18/2013 6:52:23 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: justlurking

“What’s the common factor?”

I would guess that there is a boat ramp nearby.


26 posted on 09/18/2013 6:54:31 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Surprised there hasn’t been a Ted Kennedy reference yet


27 posted on 09/18/2013 6:55:35 AM PDT by Marko413
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To: justlurking

The second car looks like a 49 or 50 Chevy. My first car was a 50.


28 posted on 09/18/2013 6:56:09 AM PDT by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: justlurking

could be a sicko setting up false lighting to trick them?


29 posted on 09/18/2013 6:58:43 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Many lakes across the country should have old boat ramps into lakes checked for dumped cars. It’s real easy to roll one into the lake never to be seen again.....
Play twilight zone music.


30 posted on 09/18/2013 7:03:47 AM PDT by 9422WMR (: " Tolerance is the virtue of a man who has no convictions".)
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To: justlurking

Don’t name the car Christine =)


31 posted on 09/18/2013 7:13:15 AM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: fidelis

Looks like an old Pontiac to me. Nasty.


32 posted on 09/18/2013 7:14:25 AM PDT by HomeAtLast ( Get involved. Because you ARE involved.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

That'll buff right out.

33 posted on 09/18/2013 7:15:53 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: fidelis

52. Last split front window.


34 posted on 09/18/2013 7:26:31 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: justlurking
Two cases, separated by nearly 10 years, yet the cars end up side-by-side. What's the common factor?

I'd say road, but that should imply more vehicles being found.

Bad luck, more than anything. The bigger concern is, if they knew these folks were headed to Foss Lake, why didn't they perform a cursory search of the lake?

How deep and how far out from the shore were these vehicles?

35 posted on 09/18/2013 7:38:29 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Appears to be the case.

Noticed in the slide show (#4) at this link that the lake is low and shows a drop-off at end of paved ramp.

http://kfor.com/2013/09/17/officials-crews-pull-cars-from-foss-lake-possibly-connected-to-1970-cold-case/


36 posted on 09/18/2013 7:46:08 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: VeniVidiVici

“Forensic Files” had an episode on two kids who disappeared. I can’t remember the state but it involved farming or ranching. The boy was on the phone with his mom when he suddenly stopped. Police searched, but could find nothing.

Weeks went by and then a farmer called in with the sad news. He was pumping out a sludge pond and found the couple’s car. The boy evidently was trying to make a short cut and ran into the pond. They never explained why the kids couldn’t get out (open top or Jeep type vehicle) but they were pretty well dissolved as the pond was toxic with manure or some such.

Helluva way to go.


37 posted on 09/18/2013 7:51:14 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: justlurking

Lake currents, high speed, poor lighting, and alcohol. It’s a reservoir with a dam.


38 posted on 09/18/2013 7:59:48 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: VeniVidiVici

dailymail goes deeper into the story http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2424175/Foss-Lake-Oklahoma-2-cold-cases-opened-2-cars-containing-5-skeletons-lake.html


39 posted on 09/18/2013 9:11:51 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: Red Badger

>>>Restorable? Heck, there are Camaros on the road that look worse than this............

A dab or two of Bondo putty and an Earl Sheib $99 paint job will bring them right back to “original” condition.


40 posted on 09/18/2013 9:15:53 AM PDT by Hop A Long Cassidy
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To: outofsalt
dailymail goes deeper into the story

Thanks for the link. As you said, lotta detail.

41 posted on 09/18/2013 9:18:59 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: VeniVidiVici; All
That's an active launching ramp, with a road running straight into it. No warning signs, rumble strips or pavement markings are visible on Google Earth.

To have a look for yourself, just enter (or COPY / PASTE) these coordinates

35.535505° -99.194569°

into the "fly to" field on Google Earth, and click the "go to" icon at the right.

That marina cove is obviously a favorite crappie fishing area: look at all the (cedar?) trees sunk in the two lateral sub-coves as fish attractors...

My guess is that the two cars were somewhere between the boat sitting perpendicular to the ramp in the May 9, 2012 overflight image, and the end of the ramp, itself.

There is also a cluster of man-made debris (sunken boathouse?) not far to the ENE of the ramp end, as well.

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Macabre thought: Those auto hulks probably were fish attractors as well...

42 posted on 09/18/2013 9:52:14 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: Iron Munro
Too bad they don’t have a photo of the ‘69 Camaro. Wonder if it’s restorable.

Really? Since it's been the *grave* of missing loved ones for 43 years, um, no thanks.


43 posted on 09/18/2013 9:57:21 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment.


44 posted on 09/18/2013 10:01:22 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Ken522
"What the heck are police doing with sonar??? "

You've "run off into the deep end" of the "anti-LEO pool", yourself.

LE agencies are often called on to do recovery searches for victims of accidents on local bodies of water. Equipping them with the best tools for that onerous task makes excellent sense...

45 posted on 09/18/2013 10:03:23 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: yldstrk; VeniVidiVici

See my #42.

Kids running around at speed at night — perfect, deadly trap...


46 posted on 09/18/2013 10:10:09 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: Roccus

I would guess that they accidentally rolled down the ramp and could not open the doors or windows, panicked and drowned.


47 posted on 09/18/2013 12:09:17 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: VeniVidiVici
Scanning Google Earth of Foss Lake Reservoir where they pulled these two cars out, near the southern end of the dam and E.N.E. of the boat ramp, there appears to be two dark shadows side-by side in the water just off small point, There's also an old, unmaintained dirt road that looks like it may have gone all the way out to the end of that point. My guess is both of these cars drove off the point in the dark or where pushed off by another vehicle. The windows are opened or broken... None of the occupants tried to escape? Or where they dead when the cars were sent over the edge?
I did not stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night. -Wb
48 posted on 09/18/2013 2:53:00 PM PDT by Wagonboy (STOP GLOBAL WHINING!)
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