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House GOP to push CR defunding Obamacare
Politico ^ | 09/18/2013 | By JAKE SHERMAN and JOHN BRESNAHAN

Posted on 09/18/2013 10:27:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

House Republican leadership will attempt to pass a government-funding bill with language that defunds Obamacare, according to senior aides.

The bill, called a continuing resolution, will likely come to the House floor late this week, roughly two weeks before funding for the federal government expires on Oct. 1.

The attempt to defund Obamacare, which has almost no chance of being enacted into law, signals that Speaker John Boehner, Majority Leader Eric Cantor and Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy felt the need to take a sharp turn to the right in order to pass a government funding bill through the House. The House GOP leadership’s preferred plan - to attach a non-binding rider to defund the law - was rejected by several dozen rank-and-file Republican lawmakers, in an embarrassing setback for Boehner, Cantor and McCarthy.

“No decisions have been made, or will be made, until House Republican Members meet and talk tomorrow,” Michael Steel, a spokesman for Boehner, told POLITICO.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: congress; defund; house; obamacare

1 posted on 09/18/2013 10:27:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

DEFUND! DEFUND! DEFUND!


2 posted on 09/18/2013 10:29:56 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: SeekAndFind

The Republican leadership must put on a pretense and must put on show, before they push through the next debt ceiling increase and or amnesty.

I have a Pennsylvania name for liberal RINO’s making conservative noises right before the election year.

“The Specter Dance”...........


3 posted on 09/18/2013 10:32:15 AM PDT by Nextrush (BALANCED BUDGET NOW, PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN,CHANGE I BELIEVE IN)
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To: SeekAndFind

Forcing someone to act as though they have a backbone doesn’t mean that they have one.

I’ll get a little more excited when this bill is actually on the floor, but until they’re lowering Obamacare into a hole in the ground Boner and Co. have proven themselves to be liberal politicians first and American conservatives second.


4 posted on 09/18/2013 10:33:11 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama is really scared of this move. The Tea Party has him rattled. He’s getting all wee-wee’d up!


5 posted on 09/18/2013 10:33:36 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s the only way to stop the train wreck Obamacare will cause.


6 posted on 09/18/2013 10:35:07 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


7 posted on 09/18/2013 10:36:54 AM PDT by BradtotheBone (Moderate Democrat - A politician whose voting record leans left and whose vote can be bought.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wait until the last day of the current CR then send it to the Senate. Immediately after getting it to the Senate then the House needs to recess.


8 posted on 09/18/2013 10:37:12 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: SeekAndFind

It funds everything except obamacare.

there is no need to shut down gov’t - just a need to shut down obamacare.


9 posted on 09/18/2013 10:37:18 AM PDT by Principled
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To: snowrip

Agree with you. I’ll believe it when I see it. Boehner and Cantor are no doubt looking for an escape hatch.

That said, I do think this is winnable. The polls are running against Obamacare and Republicans seem to be gaining some momentum against it. This is the time and place to fight this battle.


10 posted on 09/18/2013 10:37:49 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Principled

RE: there is no need to shut down gov’t - just a need to shut down obamacare.

That is, of course, IF the Senate approves the CR. If not, well, the government in effects shuts down.

It remains to be seen as to WHICH PARTY will get the blame if the shutdown happens...


11 posted on 09/18/2013 10:39:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
The election is over a year away and I guarantee the Rats can't holdout more than 3 months. After about 2 months, the Rats will be trying to negotiate just a delay in Obamacare and it will probably be a deal the GOP will have to take.
12 posted on 09/18/2013 10:40:57 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: SeekAndFind
Senate Democrats will move to strip the Obamacare language - and potentially change other items in the bill like the expiration date for funding, and the overall price tag. The House would likely then have to approve a Democrat-approved government funding bill, complete with Obamacare funding, as the nation on the brink of a government shutdown

When the government gets shut down as the result of a Democrat action, or in action, the Republicans are not without options and if they resort to clever stagecraft they can seize the initiative. They can pass a new continuing resolution every day and every day call a press conference telling the public they just funded the government again, of course, without Obamacare. Let the public understand through these public demonstrations that it is the Republicans who are funding government and Democrats who are shutting it down.

Every day they can walk a new continuing resolution over to the Senate and present it to them. If they cannot get television coverage ( remember when the Democrats walked across to pass Obamacare?) Surely the Republicans can think of something to get themselves face time.

My recommendation, you ask? Speaker of the house Boehner should strip down to a breech cloth and walk the continuing resolution to the Senate. That will both gain him television exposure and reveal his tan lines.


13 posted on 09/18/2013 10:41:41 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Principled

there is no need to shut down gov’t - just a need to shut down obamacare.

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And that is EXACTLY the words that Republicans need to repeat over and over again. We are shutting down Obamacare, NOT the government.

Another companion argument should be that the country simply cannot afford the costly monstrosity of Obamacare. The debt has already reached an unsustainable level and must be reduced. Which would conveniently set the stage for future debt reduction moves.


14 posted on 09/18/2013 10:42:56 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: SeekAndFind

I truly believe a huge majority of the people in this country would support defunding obamacare. What I don’t understand is why Boner and Cantor are afraid of not being re-elected when they know most people want it defunded.


15 posted on 09/18/2013 10:44:24 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: nathanbedford

Good recommendations, especially the last one. lol


16 posted on 09/18/2013 10:45:21 AM PDT by Starboard
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Remember, “shutting down the Government” is fiction, it’s merely shutting down nonessential services like Federal Parks and Tourist attractions. Social Security and Medicare is guaranteed funding along with the military.


17 posted on 09/18/2013 10:45:37 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

it’s merely shutting down nonessential services
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But the White House party schedule will be uneffected. So will golf outings and vacations. Priorities you know.


18 posted on 09/18/2013 10:50:21 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: PATRIOT1876

Why not have the true Republicans request a BINDING, updated, “Federal Financial Impact Statement” for 2012-2013 for Obama”care?”

It should take a month or two to complete, allow for a vote to delay Obama”care” for a year, and then show the great financial harm to our Economy that the Statement’s numbers will document.

Wharton, Stanford, Michigan and Princeton could also file their independent Financial Impact Statements to compare to the Office of Budget and the Congressional Budget Office Financial Impact Statements.

As B. Hussein is fond of saying: “We need to get all the facts first.”


19 posted on 09/18/2013 10:50:58 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Starboard
It never ceases to amuse me at how the Obamamedia and his special interest groups will use the scare tactics. There was a commercial this morning claiming the GOP wants to shut down the Government and “Social Security checks maybe delayed”.
20 posted on 09/18/2013 10:53:06 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: SeekAndFind

The GOP won’t do it. To many in buisness WANT Obama care.


21 posted on 09/18/2013 10:54:18 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Keep the phone calls and e-mails going.....don’t let up!!


22 posted on 09/18/2013 10:58:45 AM PDT by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: redgolum
The GOP won’t do it. To many in buisness WANT Obama care.

Somebody needs to explain that the business special interest have money but no votes. After being outspent 6 to 1 by Bloomberg et all 2 democrat state senators went down to defeat in Colorado.

When voters are passionate about an issue attack ads accomplish nothing. Voters are passionate about Obamacare and Amnesty.

23 posted on 09/18/2013 11:17:36 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: PATRIOT1876

Remember Colorado. Throw out, throw out, throw out.


24 posted on 09/18/2013 11:23:29 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Defund”

As though it were funded in the first place.


25 posted on 09/18/2013 11:27:05 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel
As though it were funded in the first place.

Exactly. I would loudly remind the communists of how they promised us in the beginning that Obamacare would actually save us money, and then ask them what they need funding for anyway. What difference does it make?

26 posted on 09/18/2013 11:31:42 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Hillary had 900 files... with what we know about N S A, there’s probably a lot that is being held over the heads of certain congress member’s heads.

...speculation


27 posted on 09/18/2013 11:42:53 AM PDT by woollyone ("The trouble with socialism is you run out of other people's money to spend." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Starboard
Agree with you. I’ll believe it when I see it. Boehner and Cantor are no doubt looking for an escape hatch.

You know with what weasels they are, that an escape hatch has been hatched inside the bill/resolution/vote.


28 posted on 09/18/2013 11:49:51 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals
When voters are passionate about an issue attack ads accomplish nothing. Voters are passionate about Obamacare and Amnesty.

Not like guns. There is no massive grass roots organisation like the NRA.

29 posted on 09/18/2013 11:56:54 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
Not like guns. There is no massive grass roots organization like the NRA.

The recalls in Colorado were organized by ordinary folks in Colorado, not the NRA. NRA, to their credit, ran a few ads. That was it. This was a 100% grassroots effort.

Interestingly enough, more democrats than republicans voted to recall Angela Giron in Pueblo. The gun laws, environmental laws and election laws were rammed through like Obamacare was. That, more than the laws themselves, prompted the recalls.

Is Obamacare disliked as much as what the Colorado state nuthouse did? If so, the money spent on attack ads won't matter.

30 posted on 09/18/2013 1:39:10 PM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

Go out and talk to people about Obammacare. Most are worried, but want some sort of socialized care (remember, we have socialized medicine now).

And health care does not have the same reaction in the populace as guns. Guns as a symbol in American life are very powerful. Healthcare is not. I used the NRA as an example because it represents not the forces of moneyed class, but a true grass roots organization. It is narrowly focused on one task, and has resisted attempts by those on the right and left to wander into areas outside of that task.

Healthcare does not have that reaction. Even on this board, there are many who want and demand that someone else pay for top tier health care because it was “Promised” them.

Simply put, we will have single payer healthcare, with all of its horrors, soon. To many forces want it.


31 posted on 09/18/2013 1:55:57 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
You are probably correct. Damn the bad luck. However, I still think the big business money is much less of an influence than it used to be.

About the time the death panels start denying grandpas surgery they may see the light.

32 posted on 09/18/2013 3:00:32 PM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

Big Business money is all that matters.

Business rights the policy, sets the laws, and controls the regulation. The average congress critter knows that he or she can help draft a law, and then retire to the firm that wrote it.

Take a look at the FDA and the incestuous pharmaceutical companies.


33 posted on 09/18/2013 4:51:41 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

“to attach a non-binding rider to defund the law”

Now that’s the strategy of fraudulent Republicans. Way to go Boys!


34 posted on 09/18/2013 9:04:05 PM PDT by inchworm
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