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Finds in Israel add weight to theory God “had wife”
Yahoo News UK ^ | 18th September 2013 | Rob Waugh

Posted on 09/18/2013 12:19:58 PM PDT by the scotsman

'Female figurines and inscribed prayers to a "divine couple" found in temples in Israel suggest that the “one God” of the Bible may not have been entirely alone.

A recent excavation in Tel Motza, not far from Jerusalem, found what archaeologists believe to have been a ritual building - with clay figures of animals and men from the time of the First Temple, according to Israel's Haaretz news site.

The find suggests that Iron Age religion in the area around Jerusalem may not have been monotheistic just before the time the Hebrew Bible – the basis of the Old Testament - started to be written.

Now experts are increasingly suggesting that far from there being “one God”, there were many.

One expert, Professor Francesca Stavrakopoulou of the University of Exeter, says there is “increasing evidence” of Israelites worshipping several gods - including one who may have been seen as Yahweh’s “wife”.'

(Excerpt) Read more at uk.news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Israel
KEYWORDS: asherah; el; faithandphilosophy; godsgravesglyphs; letshavejerusalem; raphaelpatai; stavrakopoulou; telmotza; yahweh
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1 posted on 09/18/2013 12:19:58 PM PDT by the scotsman
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To: the scotsman

Well John Titor (time traveler from Art Ball’s show) did say that our whole notion of God changed when The Ark of the Covenant was found in Ethiopia


2 posted on 09/18/2013 12:21:52 PM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: the scotsman
The Old Testament is basically an account of how Israel went off the rails over and over again. So it's not surprising that they find archaeological evidence of Israel's idolatry.
3 posted on 09/18/2013 12:22:09 PM PDT by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: the scotsman

at ONE POINT the Israelites worshipped a Golden Calf.

not a long lived form of Worship and the Calf was never *a* God


4 posted on 09/18/2013 12:22:46 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: Obadiah

That was the same thing I was thinking. It only took them a few years before they built a golden calf despite the miracles they had seen.


5 posted on 09/18/2013 12:23:38 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: the scotsman

Depictions of G_d were not allowed in the Jewish faith.


6 posted on 09/18/2013 12:23:59 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: the scotsman

Bad Media again. They do not seem to read scripture.

In 1 Kings chapter 18, Elijah slew 450 prophets of Baal.

This does not disprove but rather offers some proof to the accounts of the Bible.


7 posted on 09/18/2013 12:24:20 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: Mr. K

excuse me for not replying sooner...I was REMOTE VIEWING the Ark.

It is in fact..... now in George Lucas’s Basement....


8 posted on 09/18/2013 12:24:49 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: the scotsman
TO: Yahoo News/UK

So like no other people lived in that area the same time Jews did? No other cultures? And the OT was not "started to be written" as though it is one book. I love these moronic "experts" -

9 posted on 09/18/2013 12:25:27 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: the scotsman


Francesca Stavrakopoulou (born 1975 in Bromley, England with an English mother and a Greek father) is Professor of Hebrew Bible and Ancient Religion in the University of Exeter's department of Theology and Religion.
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She describes herself as "an atheist with huge respect for religion" and regards her work as "a branch of history like any other"

From wikipaedia about the woman behind this story... for what it is worth
10 posted on 09/18/2013 12:25:50 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: the scotsman

Oh here we go with this blasphemous crap again.

Satan had a wife too, I think she was called the Lilith


11 posted on 09/18/2013 12:26:07 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: yarddog

these proofs....are hilarious

eventually even Richard-I was Fondled By a Pedophile- Dawkins...will come to know who GOD is


12 posted on 09/18/2013 12:26:24 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: the scotsman
Now experts are increasingly suggesting that far from there being “one God”, there were many.

Are these people totally ignorant of history?

13 posted on 09/18/2013 12:26:46 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: the scotsman

So, since they worshipped Baal, Molech, and Astoreth, I guess we can assume their existence is a fact, too. /s


14 posted on 09/18/2013 12:26:51 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.)
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To: the scotsman
G*D was getting Nagged @ by his Wife!!...
He had his own version of HELL.

15 posted on 09/18/2013 12:27:01 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: the scotsman

Israel was God’s bride - but she proved herself an ungrateful harlot.


16 posted on 09/18/2013 12:27:03 PM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: Obadiah

The Old Testament is basically an account of how Israel went off the rails over and over again. So it’s not surprising that they find archaeological evidence of Israel’s idolatry.


Exactly.

And there is all that mention of the asherah poles that had to be taken down.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_asherah_pole_mentioned_in_the_Old_Testament

I have a 2.5 hour round trip commute every day. I’ve been listening to the OT from cover to cover over the last few weeks. It’s really amazing to get it read to you like a book. It comes across very differently from when you are studying it through reading. I’m up to Ezekiel 16 so far.

And I was thinking just what you posted when I read the article.


17 posted on 09/18/2013 12:27:36 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: the scotsman

Rewriting history is a never ending job.

The next thing you know someone will be finding new rights written in invisible ink in the US Constitution.


18 posted on 09/18/2013 12:27:51 PM PDT by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you donÂ’t need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

is it still there?

let me know...


19 posted on 09/18/2013 12:28:27 PM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Obadiah
The Old Testament is basically an account of how Israel went off the rails over and over again.

Pretty much. IIRC, treating Yahweh as a member of a pantheon of false gods was one of the ways Israel fell into idolatry. I think Asherah had something to do with it.

20 posted on 09/18/2013 12:28:56 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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To: the scotsman

Something about “I am who I am” doesn’t sound married.


21 posted on 09/18/2013 12:29:06 PM PDT by HomeAtLast ( Get involved. Because you ARE involved.)
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To: AppyPappy

Depictions of G_d were not allowed in the Jewish faith.


That is another thing I was thinking when I read that article. They are not saying what gods existed. They are saying what gods they think people may have worshipped. And Israel was nailed for worshipping idols quite a bit.


22 posted on 09/18/2013 12:29:21 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: the scotsman

The kind of analysis one would expect from a complete imbecile!

The worship of Ishtar was big back then.


23 posted on 09/18/2013 12:30:01 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: the scotsman
A recent excavation in Tel Motza, not far from Jerusalem, found what archaeologists believe to have been a ritual building - with clay figures of animals and men from the time of the First Temple, according to Israel's Haaretz news site....Now experts are increasingly suggesting that far from there being “one God”, there were many.

Ping for later

24 posted on 09/18/2013 12:30:07 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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To: the scotsman

They could have saved themselves a lot of trouble and simply read the Book of Kings.


25 posted on 09/18/2013 12:30:26 PM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: the scotsman
God has to admit he was having a bad day when he created skunks, mosquitoes, ticks, and eels. But a perfect and infallible being decided a wife would be a good idea?
26 posted on 09/18/2013 12:30:35 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: the scotsman

Has nothing to do with the God of the Bible and everything to do with Baal and his wife.

Anyone who reads the Bible diligently knows that the Canaanite gods, who were a “divine couple”, were not driven form the land until after the return from the Babylonian exile.

If even then.


27 posted on 09/18/2013 12:32:19 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: the scotsman
'Now experts are increasingly suggesting that far from there being “one God”, there were many. '

Duh.

Ya can check out Dr. Heiser's work on the Diving Council for more info.

"[The divine council is] the heavenly host, the pantheon of divine beings who administer the affairs of the cosmos. All ancient Mediterranean cultures had some conception of a divine council. The divine council of Israelite religion, known primarily through the psalms, was distinct in important ways."


28 posted on 09/18/2013 12:32:22 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Obadiah

Exactly.


29 posted on 09/18/2013 12:32:47 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: AppyPappy

>> “Depictions of G_d were not allowed in the Jewish faith.” <<

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Aww, c’mon, don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story.


30 posted on 09/18/2013 12:32:47 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: the scotsman

Nobody’s perfect.


31 posted on 09/18/2013 12:32:58 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: the scotsman

What does God need with a star ship?


32 posted on 09/18/2013 12:33:08 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Evil WILL flourish when good men WILL not act)
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To: the scotsman

Do they found reference to The Queen of Heaven.
Goody.
Maybe they’ll figure out that she is Asherah?
Naaah.
Clueless “archeologists” who know nothing of the material they are looking at.


33 posted on 09/18/2013 12:33:12 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: GeronL

i thought her name was Hillary Michelle???


34 posted on 09/18/2013 12:34:25 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Darksheare

Bingo!


35 posted on 09/18/2013 12:35:08 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Mr. K
he had considered gifting the town of San Anselmo with the ARK.... for inclusion as a statue in the new Park..the property for which having formerly belonged to Mr Lucas..

instead we had to settle for statues of Indiana Jones and Yoda....both NEW AGE "GODS".

Should the ark be moved there... I shall alert you immediately


36 posted on 09/18/2013 12:35:18 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: BenLurkin

Yeah, and mobile debice helpfully autocowreckded “So” to “Do” for some stupid reason.

We’ll never hear them admit that they’re looking at Canaanite cross pollination.


37 posted on 09/18/2013 12:38:15 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: the scotsman

I believe there are translations of the Bible that say “we created the Earth”.


38 posted on 09/18/2013 12:38:21 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Obadiah

also don’t forget all around them were pagan religions that did worship female deities.

Solomon for crying out loud worshipped other gods. Plenty of wicked israelite kings after Solomon worshipped other gods.

It wouldn’t be surprising if they altered images and added figures to carvings.

It’s hardly mind-blowing. It is to be expected given the history recounted in the Bible.


39 posted on 09/18/2013 12:38:24 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: God luvs America

lol


40 posted on 09/18/2013 12:39:34 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: greatvikingone

a symbol of the entire human race.


41 posted on 09/18/2013 12:40:30 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: GeronL

WRONG. Her name was Karen. I dated her before she married Satan.


42 posted on 09/18/2013 12:41:03 PM PDT by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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To: GeronL

Fraser agrees.


43 posted on 09/18/2013 12:41:49 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Obadiah

Yeah, that was kind of, oh, I don’t know, most of the OT.


44 posted on 09/18/2013 12:42:49 PM PDT by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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To: Thane_Banquo

Indeed. The complaints about Solomon’s foreign wives was really a complaint about the installment of idols in the temple area.


45 posted on 09/18/2013 12:42:59 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: Resolute Conservative

This is where the baby killers came up with the name “Lilith Fair” for that concert series.


46 posted on 09/18/2013 12:43:27 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Bayard

Baal, is IIRC the Hebrew for Husband. The earth-mother was who Baal was united with.

The rain (semen) from the sky god would fall onto the earth mother, making her fruitful. The dead would be buried (as seeds) in the ground to gain eternal life.

It was derived from Osiris/Isis cults in Egypt. Oh, they had a son too.

Christianity has a Father (Jehovah) Mother (Holy Spirit) and Son (Jesus) also.


47 posted on 09/18/2013 12:43:39 PM PDT by donmeaker (Youth is wasted on the young.)
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To: BigEdLB

She describes herself as “an atheist with huge respect for religion”

So basically like a vegan studying history of human carnivore eating habits.


48 posted on 09/18/2013 12:43:41 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith


49 posted on 09/18/2013 12:44:21 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Obadiah
The Old Testament is basically an account of how Israel went off the rails over and over again. So it's not surprising that they find archaeological evidence of Israel's idolatry.

I was thinking the same thing. Didn't this author bother to read the Bible? God has chosen the people of Israel. He extends the hand of mercy by rescuing them from Egypt. Within two months they have built a Golden Calf. God punishes them. They repent - for awhile. They return to idolatry. Repeat cycle... Until He sends His Son and shortly thereafter destroys the Temple and Jerusalem (the second time).
But you are right, the Prophets (speaking the Word of God) are constantly telling the people to stop committing spiritual adultery by worshiping these idols...

1 Kings 11:5 For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites.

1 Kings 11:33 Because that they have forsaken me, and have worshipped Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, Chemosh the god of the Moabites, and Milcom the god of the children of Ammon, and have not walked in my ways, to do that which is right in mine eyes, and to keep my statutes and my judgments, as did David his father.

2 Kings 17:16 And they left all the commandments of the LORD their God, and made them molten images, even two calves, and made a grove, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served Baal.

Jeremiah 19:12-13 Thus will I do unto this place, saith the LORD, and to the inhabitants thereof, and even make this city as Tophet: And the houses of Jerusalem, and the houses of the kings of Judah, shall be defiled as the place of Tophet, because of all the houses upon whose roofs they have burned incense unto all the host of heaven, and have poured out drink offerings unto other gods.

Acts 7:41-43 And they made a calf in those days, and offered sacrifice unto the idol, and rejoiced in the works of their own hands. Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness? Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.

Of course we all need to tear down our own idols.

50 posted on 09/18/2013 12:45:40 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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