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Signs and Wonders: Rethinking the hate crime that launched the gay-rights movement
WORLD ^ | 9/18/13 | Warren Cole Smith

Posted on 09/18/2013 3:38:46 PM PDT by rhema

Not a hate crime? The murder of Matthew Shepard in 1998 became a cause célèbre for homosexual activists who said Shepherd’s murderers targeted him because he was gay. Now comes a new book saying Shepard and his murderers partied together, had sex together, and used drugs together.

The Book of Matt, out next week to coincide (more or less) with the 15th anniversary of the murder, is causing buzz because the writer is himself gay and a credible investigative reporter.

One of the more interesting reviews of the book came from gay journalist Andrew Sullivan: “If you’re going to base a civil rights movement on one particular incident, and the mythology about a particular incident, you’re asking for trouble, because events are more complicated than most politicians or most activists want them to be.”

Precisely.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: fdrq; homosexualagenda; shepard; sullivan

1 posted on 09/18/2013 3:38:46 PM PDT by rhema
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To: rhema

I’ve just bought this on Kindle. I always knew this story was bogus.


2 posted on 09/18/2013 3:40:08 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: rhema

“It’s just about love!”


3 posted on 09/18/2013 3:40:23 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: rhema

When speaking of Matthew Sheppard, always remember Jesse Dirkhising.


4 posted on 09/18/2013 3:43:19 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: rhema
[Art.] One of the more interesting reviews of the book came from gay journalist Andrew Sullivan: “If you’re going to base a civil rights movement on one particular incident, and the mythology about a particular incident, you’re asking for trouble, because events are more complicated than most politicians or most activists want them to be.” Precisely.

But it worked for the bad guys, didn't it.

So where is this trouble (for the gays) that Sullivan murmurs about? See any?

5 posted on 09/18/2013 3:44:32 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
When speaking of Matthew Sheppard, always remember Jesse Dirkhising.

Jesse's story didn't "resonate" </ scumbag NEWSWEAK editor to Brent Bozell>.

Sorry.

6 posted on 09/18/2013 3:46:46 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
When speaking of Matthew Sheppard, always remember Jesse Dirkhising.

Probably nine out of ten people who know who Matthew Sheppard was have never heard of Jesse, due to the the LSM silence on that story.

7 posted on 09/18/2013 3:47:02 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: rhema
Unstable gays have a lover's quarrel and commit a gruesome murder so they make lemonade by using it as a hammer on stable straight people.

False witness.

8 posted on 09/18/2013 3:47:28 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: rhema

I was in Denver on the dates of several note-worthy events.
I was there for the Matthew Shepard Tragedy,The John Benet Ramsey Murder, the Oaklahoma City Explosion,and, the Columbine Shootings.


9 posted on 09/18/2013 3:50:18 PM PDT by gigster (Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
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To: rhema

Thing is a lot of this stuff is bogus and exploited. The so called ‘civil rights’ movements has ample amounts of this.


10 posted on 09/18/2013 3:52:44 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: rhema; Revolting cat!; GeronL

The Stonewall riots outside the mob run speakeasy was the “start” of the homosexualist rights movement.

Or maybe it was the faggot Kinsey who got the balls rolling.


11 posted on 09/18/2013 3:54:34 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise

That sounds painful


12 posted on 09/18/2013 3:56:08 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Navy Patriot

I suspect that one of the guys in the Lawrence v. Texas case (who was already up for an assault charge case against the jilted “lover” who called 911 the night of the arrest) is the one who murdered the “jilted lover” before the assault case came to light. You can’t libel the dead. All 3 men are now dead in that case. Drug users with past criminal records.

Ain’t a Rosa Parks in the homosexual agenda movement. Kinsey had criminals molest babies for “science”.

Stonewall was a mob run illicit bar.

Maybe they should praise Roy Cohn.


13 posted on 09/18/2013 3:58:04 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: rhema
This is a quote from the linked review in the Advocate.

"There are valuable reasons for telling certain stories in a certain way at pivotal times, but that doesn’t mean we have to hold on to them once they’ve outlived their usefulness. In his book, Flagrant Conduct, Dale Carpenter, a professor at the University of Minnesota Law School, similarly unpicks the notorious case of Lawrence v. Texas, in which the arrest of two men for having sex in their own bedroom became a vehicle for affirming the right of gay couples to have consensual sex in private. Except that the two men were not having sex, and were not even a couple. Yet this non-story, carefully edited and taken all the way to the Supreme Court, changed America."

It is a casual description of the 1984ish media of our nation.

14 posted on 09/18/2013 4:08:37 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: a fool in paradise

I really worry about the intent of gay power when I look at how many of ‘em were in bed with Hitler.


15 posted on 09/18/2013 4:10:17 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: rhema
This is why the liberals always want to not let a good crisis go to waste.

It doesn't matter to them if the facts are true or false; let's assume that they assume them to be false. What matters is that they get the public to act on an agenda before the true facts come out. By that time, it's too late to undo the actions taken in haste.

-PJ

16 posted on 09/18/2013 4:13:45 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: ansel12

The DA said he couldn’t choose which laws to enforce, then let them off the hook for the drugs charges they faced in that apartment.

He ultimately said he didn’t care about that law against same sex sodomy.

He was also against gun rights.

Funny character for a Harris County “Republican”. Glad he was run out of office in scandal (communicating with a mistress on company computers). He was also accused of sharing “racist” jokes (a comic strip in which Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, two confirmed bigots, were seen next to a wishing well. One of them throws a coin in the well wishing that racism would disappear, then they both vanish).

The fix was in from the beginning, I suspect.

And they are still making legal attacks for same sex marriage in Texas.


17 posted on 09/18/2013 4:18:20 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: JimRed
Probably nine out of ten people who know who Matthew Sheppard was have never heard of Jesse

Well, was Dirkhising attacking that gay before Jesse himself was done in? Did he try to beat the fudgepacker up before the latter struck back? Was Dirkhising's attack (if it happened) covered up?

Sometimes what's missing from a story is as interesting as what *is* reported, whatever the agenda of the media outlet.

ff

18 posted on 09/18/2013 4:34:51 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: gigster
I was in Denver on the dates of several note-worthy events.

I was there for the Matthew Shepard Tragedy,The John Benet Ramsey Murder, the Oaklahoma City Explosion,and, the Columbine Shootings.

By design in each case (or at least for Ramsey, Shepard, and Columbine)?

ff

19 posted on 09/18/2013 4:37:17 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: rhema

The book will be completely ignored by the mainstream media.

Unless we buy it.


20 posted on 09/18/2013 5:40:26 PM PDT by I want the USA back
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To: gigster

Stay out of Denver.


21 posted on 09/18/2013 5:42:03 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: miss marmelstein

Some friends who lived in Laramie told me of the drug angle a couple of days after it happened. The Press is satanic.


22 posted on 09/18/2013 5:49:07 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberal: A person who charges their grandchildren for today's party)
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To: rhema

It was a robbery, didn’t the guys confess?


23 posted on 09/18/2013 6:03:23 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: rhema

Man, those guys are sad if they can’t get their story straight (is that a pun?).

Still, yeah. It sounds like a wild sex/drug orgy that went “bad” (if there is, hypothetically, a way that wild sex/drug orgies can go “good.”) Maybe the author is exaggerating a little. But a lot of them go gaga (pun again?) over that kind of fantasy.

Let me cut to the chase with no more folderol. These guys, all in such situations, need their Heavenly Father. Deeply. None of their orgies, none of their “ceremonies,” none of their “worship,” in the milieu they are in can do anything but get them more and more and more of Satan.

The deepest Christian vision towards this should not even be “oh how they are polluting our nice society, and the moment we get a chance, off with their heads” but “Lord is there some way to pull them back towards heaven from the brink of hell.”

I boldly assert that the answer in principle is always yes. The acceptance is up to them. Because accepting love, and foremost the love of God, always requires a willing yes, then an unwilling no is tragically possible. However angry screeds and signs that seem to glorify the one writing them more than the Lord who is both offended and grieved by the conduct, are not, I submit, the maximally helpful approach. One sign I saw that at least pointed out that Jesus saves, had some kind of rant about TV on it as well. TV? What does TV have to do with this man mired in Satan’s thrall to homosexual sin? Nothing that I can see. I’d personally suggest signs worded in accordance with a sincere desire to help a person out of sin, with a WEB SITE ADDRESS on them, to which any interested person can then go in whatever privacy he (or she) wishes.


24 posted on 09/18/2013 6:43:35 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: gigster
I was in Denver on the dates of several note-worthy events. I was there for the Matthew Shepard Tragedy,The John Benet Ramsey Murder, the Oaklahoma City Explosion,and, the Columbine Shootings.

I was working on a song with a rock band and some studio musicians one Friday when we decided to call it quits and leave the studio around 8pm.
We were staying in a rented house that friday night with a few girls and more than enough drugs.The house was in LA up in the hills on (I found out later) Benedict Canyon Road.
While we were getting high and drunk and playing with the girls, about a quarter of a mile from us Sharon Tate and her house guests were being massacred by several of Charles Manson's young zombies. The first we knew anything out of the ordinary was wrong was when we noticed a convoy of polive vehicle clogging up the road the next morning and refusing to let anyone leave the area.

25 posted on 09/18/2013 7:05:49 PM PDT by Larry381 ("God is dead." (Nietzsche, 1885) "Nietzsche is dead." (God, 1900))
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To: Larry381

The devil wasn’t partying quite as hearty with you folks as he was with the Mansons... but I hope you took warning! :-)


26 posted on 09/18/2013 7:40:54 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Loud Mime

Surely this all came out at trial, right?


29 posted on 09/19/2013 5:05:04 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: foreverfree
Well, was Dirkhising attacking that gay before Jesse himself was done in? Did he try to beat the fudgepacker up before the latter struck back? Was Dirkhising's attack (if it happened) covered up?

You may be thinking of someone else- Dirkhising was a thirteen year old who was raped and murdered by two adult homosexual partners, one of whom was a "family friend".

HOMOSEXUAL, because there's nothing GAY about it.

30 posted on 09/19/2013 6:11:31 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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