WA Ping I can't help but wonder why people up to 26 years staying on their parents plan is such a big deal if the parents may not be keeping their plans, or their doctors.
Posted on 09/18/2013 3:47:33 PM PDT by Stoat
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Wednesday, September 18, 2013
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An ambitious effort hits high gear this week, aiming to enroll 180,000 King County residents in a new health insurance program.
On Friday, September 20, more than 100 volunteers and staff members from Public Health – Seattle & King County will spread out across the county to share information about low-cost health insurance options made possible by the Affordable Care Act and available through Washington Healthplanfinder.
This on-the-ground outreach launches a six-month enrollment campaign, a central part of King County Executive Dow Constantine's initiative for full enrollment.
"National healthcare reform presents an extraordinary opportunity, and one that must not be missed, to get those who are newly eligible signed up for affordable health insurance," said Executive Constantine. "We're mobilizing an unprecedented community effort to connect people to effective preventive care early, rather than expensive treatment later."
The Executive's 2014/2015 proposed budget includes one-time funding for three access and outreach workers to help enroll people who become eligible for free or low-cost health coverage on October 1. In the longer term, these investments will save money.
"Thanks to this historic change, the lack of affordable insurance will no longer be a major cause of disease or poor health," said Dr. David Fleming, MD, Director and Health Officer for Public Health – Seattle & King County. "When people have access to affordable health care, they can lead healthier, more productive lives."
Public Health – Seattle & King County is leading a broad network of partners—from the health sector, community-based organizations, the faith community, the business community, and county agencies— that joined the outreach effort.
The Coverage Is Here King County initiative will include:
Expert in-person assistance: Public Health – Seattle & King County is serving as the Lead Organization in King County for the state's In-Person Assister program. Public Health has developed a network of 23 partner agencies to help people enroll in affordable health insurance. The network's approach will include geo-targeting to give special attention to communities with high numbers of uninsured people and working alongside organizations that have a strong presence in each community.
Outreach throughout King County: Hundreds of enrollment events, hosted by Public Health and the partner organizations, will reach people at the neighborhood level. Four large enrollment events, beginning October 5, will include translators from several languages, and smaller events will target specific populations.
Leadership Circle: Executive Constantine also has created a Leadership Circle from business, labor, education, healthcare, faith-based and community organizations to advise him on the enrollment initiative and to help shape outreach strategies. This is how private businesses can get involved.
Reaching every customer the County serves: Every department and division within King County government will help spread the word about new, affordable insurance options. Each agency has been looking for ways to participate, within its normal business. For example, customer service windows and counters will share posters and enrollment flyers for Washington Healthplanfinder. Parents and families who arrive at Juvenile Court will find opportunities to enroll in health insurance, as King County Superior Court offers weekly outreach activities, plus two all-day outreach and enrollment days in October. The courts will also offer an outreach and enrollment day at the Regional Justice Center in Kent in November. Residents in unincorporated areas will hear about enrollment opportunities through the Community Service Areas Program, headed by the Department of Natural Resources and Parks. The City of Seattle has also engaged each of its departments in outreach, under the same strategy of reaching people where they live.
Beyond the expansion of healthcare coverage, thousands of people in King County are already benefitting from the Affordable Care Act:
For more information about getting enrolled in an insurance plan, visit http://kingcounty.gov/coverage.
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Providing effective and innovative health and disease prevention services for over 2 million residents and visitors of King County, Public Health — Seattle & King County works for safer and healthier communities for everyone, every day.
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Translation:
In response to devastaing poll numbers that show people hating 0bamacare more and more as they learn more about it, the Democrat Party machine is sending Government employees during work hours along with Leftist activists around to your home to bully you into complying with and supporting Obama's signature plan to eviscerate the American economy and healthcare system.
What is the Ethnic demographic of King County (dare I ask?)?
Your translation is dead on the mark.
You suppose they were all briefed by Pelosi as to what’s in it now that it’s passed? /s
A quick Google search brought this result, among others:
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/53/53033.html
Thank you ;-)
You suppose they were all briefed by Pelosi as to what’s in it now that it’s passed? /s
My guess would be that the Left doesn't even care what's in the bill because they know it was written by Leftists and so therefore they know it will serve the interests of the Left, that being the destruction of America.
I think I'm going to go into the defaulted insurance premium collections business........
WA Ping I can't help but wonder why people up to 26 years staying on their parents plan is such a big deal if the parents may not be keeping their plans, or their doctors.
Many people who sign up for one of the “Health Care Exchange Plans,” will discover that “The Plan” for which they signed, DOES NOT allow them to go to the doctor or the facilities or seek the services that formerly sought.
The irony will be, that, they will therefore DROP “The Plan” and “Pay The Penalty *TAX*”.
BUT ... in fact, they WILL NOT PAY THE PENALTY TAX because of their income tax status, and instead, the penalty will be *effectively waived for them.*
So, after all this Leviathanic-Mess, the very people who Queen Kathleen assures us, will be “covered,” will actually:
- not be covered
- receive a waiver or compensation
that pays their penalty for them
- return to the medical services that
they formerly sought
To wit: For them, no change, while we get to pay for the mountain of bureaucracy that administers all that.
Now a mandate under penalty of law is being called an OPPORTUNITY!
Hourly workers who normally get a tax refund will see the penalty deducted from what they expect to receive.
I wonder if those who don't work or subsist on low wage jobs will still get their earned income tax credit payback, or if that will be confiscated, too.
“So, after all this Leviathanic-Mess”
I was on their website the other night, after getting a letter that my current health plan will rise up to $1140/mo. (family of 5, was $380/mo. four years ago!!). Oh, and my deductibles are doubled.
I only got so far on the website that I see their “Affordable Health Care” plan (”silver” package) will be about $1320 a month!
I started going through the various list of providers, but in pdf format, and just listing the names of the providers, and with about a dozen beginning with the letter “A”, I gave up. Will talk with my business insurance folks to see if they have a clue on this mess.
This is such a can of worms I believe very few know what is going to happen. Obummer knows for sure he doesn’t want most of this to play out before the 2014 election because a lot of people (Dem voters) are going to see what a fiasco this is.
From the Census Bureau:
Population - 2 million
Non-Hispanic White - 64%
Asian - 16%
Hispanic - 9%
Black - 7%
Mixed - 5%
American Indian - 1%
Pacific Islands - 1%
When I went looking for *health insurance,* my FIRST concern, was, “Which doctors and medical centers?”
Because I want to choose ... because there are BAD doctors and there are GOOD doctors ... (which have not been mentioned much in all the “coverage” gobbledygook) ... and BAD doctors cause you grief, pain, and trouble that are usually long term.
So, I started with the doctor-patient relationship and worked outward thru the maze of providers, from there.
Group health coverage, in my opinion, has been THE DISASTER, as it presents a large cash cow IN BETWEEN you and your doctor, who answers to the cash cow as much as to you, and possibly more so, than to you.
In other words, the (supply of *good* medical doctors and specialists) / (patient demand) curve is what once set prices, but that has been corrupted by all “the suits” at Cash Cow Coverage Manipulators, Inc. (CCCM, Inc. being about as “private” as the Red Chinese Peoples’ Liberation Army’s “non-government agency/not in the news” *ownership* of the means of doing business).
Not too long ago, well maybe at least 4 decades ago, a *health insurance* company PAID YOU, THE PATIENT, and then it was up to you to pay your doctor; and *that* maintained the “meeting of the minds” / “due consideration” patient-doctor business relationship.
Group plans busted that.
Health insurance companies should be private, but the policies should have *always* been individual, not group. Especially so, that each person *FACES* their individual responsibilities.
Same for taxes. There should be *no withholding;* and payments should be estimated, quarterly, so that THE INDIVIDUAL has to write a check and FEEL/NOTICE the money coming out of their wallet.
Instead of all the bureaucratic, mystical “health coverage” that has been administered by companies and corporations for their workers.
So, along comes our government, now *insisting* that health coverage WILL BE INDIVIDUAL, much to the pleasure of the many board rooms now divorcing themselves from the mess that their “labor negotiations” created in the first place.
But the trouble is, now, that instead of private health insurance plans, there will mostly be government-sponsored, so-called “corporate” (technically: *fascist*) plans.
The true, private plans, will only be available to people making somewhere above $280,000 / year; and that largely means “the suits” plus “the lawyers” and “judges” plus select government agents/operators and of course “labor bosses.”
Who - all of them - will figure a way to make their “private plans” ... *PUBLIC* in the fashion of how a new baseball stadium is built and named after some company or bigshot, but mostly was paid for by tax dollars.
None of this ends well, meaning, it is all terribly inflationary for everybody who is *not* in the high income brackets.
All that said, the brutal fact is, that accepting a government-sponsored plan, means that the government will define what is the “quality” of the “care” “that you received.”
If you are having an emergency, you will likely be turned away from a facility that is not listed in the plan that is chained to your leg ... as the facility and its people will face penalties for attending to you while un-covered by it/them.
It’s a Leviathanic-Mess.
Businesses have yet to realize, that their workers’ attendance will become uncomfortable affairs.
There’s going to be a lot of un-rest. Lower-level and mid-level managers will face a lot of un-happiness in the ranks.
Obama will be golfing with the higher-income groups.
Basically, ObamaCare *nationalizes* economic depression, creating a wide gap between “the suits” and the rest of us.
While so many who have not had “health coverage” ... first try it ... but then *drop it* so that they can stick with their habits, which path will cost them *nothing,* as they will be somehow compensated for whatever penalty exists ... BECAUSE it’s politically un-acceptable to penalize those who enter into voluntary servitude to the state.
They are defined to be “victims,” while the many of us being forced into *involuntary servitude* to the state, are expected to cover *their costs* PLUS the costs of the higher-ups’ “doing business.”
A lot of doctors will not sign up as providers for the exchange, and some of the exchange plans are limiting provider enrollment. The result will be long waits and poor access. The only way for many on the exchange to get care will be the ER, unless they pay on their own.
For the young and healthy, the penalty/tax or no tax refund will be a no brainier.
I am quite surprised at that.
Bingo!
If we had just pumped an extra $200 billion into Medicaid, we would have had a superior system to ObamaCare and absolutely none of the massive disruption and hugely expensive overhead that is coming.
DE-FUND THIS CATASTROPHE NOW!
Most of the un-insured will not have to pay.
ObamaCare includes a massive Supplemental Payment scheme, which is the ultimate funnel neck into which almost all individuals in the United States will find themselves sliding.
The leftists’ theory is, that most people will apply for supplemental help -— and the premium payment scheme *is* designed to cause a person to seek that government aid.
That’s the catch, the hook, that takes a person who is private and to date has not been on government welfare, but upon application for the Supplemental Payment, that person becomes *ON PAPER* a government dependent.
Thereupon, you become subject to all the inspections of your body, your being, your life and livelihood, and your property, that the leftists claim to be theirs to know about you.
In other words, the path to the leftists’ concept of a Single Payer System, is *not* avoidable unless you have hundreds of thousands of dollars per year’s income, such that your budget comfortably enables you to hold onto a private plan.
The Private Health Plan System will be a fortress protected by the lawyers and judges who set it up, and the cops who physically defend it and get its benefits.
There is going to be a big gap between their much higher-quality tier and the man on the street’s.
In the name of “curing” Haves and Have Nots ... the leftists will create a much bigger divide.
They don’t pay now. Has anyone forgotten Medicare and Medicaid?
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