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To: neverdem
Democrats have routinely criticized Republicans for attacking Obamacare without proposing a viable replacement

Obamacare is a replacement to the existing health plan in the USA. It is the best in the world and that is what Obamacare should be compared against.
It does need a few tweaks such as limiting the awards on medical malpractice lawsuits which driving up the cost of insurance for doctors and patients.

3 posted on 09/18/2013 10:42:05 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: oldbrowser

In addition you need something to insure precondition conditions. Find someone over 50 who’s never had a Basel Cell...detached retina....bad knee..depression..you can’t just price these folks out.


7 posted on 09/18/2013 10:52:46 PM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: oldbrowser

Our health care system is very advanced in technology.

However two things are radically wrong, and it is a very sick system which BO moved in to take advantage of like a parasite, and not to fix it.

Third party payer moved in, driving up costs and taking responsibility for health away from the individual and his and her family members.
Then the government moved in with medicare driving this system through the roof, and then providers ripped off the system out of control. This was discovered in the early eighties and massive cutbacks moved in, but by far not enough to save the system.

And our medical system is in no way a health care system. It is a sick care system It gives no credence to the patient, their family members, their true dignity, their health nor their quality of life.

It gives no allowance for preventive health care, pays lip service to nutrition and is turning into a pharmaceutical and high tech diagnostic and treatment brokerage.

If it were a healthy system, we would be a healthy culture/society. Our obesity rate is out of control. Most people are on pharmaceuticals, completely unable to care for themselves and their families with any confidence.

If you go to a good gym and talk to the trainer and look around, that is the direction for the future. They are very informed on proper nutrition.

Taking control of health, going to the doctor for catastrophy, and avoiding the same, is what used to be done. It had flaws, but we cannot afford this. Certainly not with the lack of good health apparent all around.

I went to a high school football game last week. I could faint thinking about the image of almost every woman at 200 pounds. WHAT! I look at photos of my family from the 20s through the ‘70s. No way was that kind of obesity acceptable. I remember some of those decades. No way were women nor men that obese.

Whatever overhaul we get from these guys, it has to include respect for privacy, I don’t care what it takes, we have a 4th amendment; it has to NOT entail redistribution of personal earnings.

If it goes radically in the direction of returning (returning) health decisions and care to the individual, then it will be heading in the right direction. But earners and the truly needy have to have catastrophic protection/insurance without our cost going up

If we are the best,and I suppose we can be, then we can figure out how to do that.


14 posted on 09/18/2013 11:40:27 PM PDT by stanne
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To: oldbrowser

We have tort reform in California since 1976 and our medical costs are some of the highest compared to other states. It is next to impossible to sue a phyisician or hospital for malpractice in California. Maximum $250,000. so most attorneys will not take a case unless it is a minor child who has been disabled. MICRA tort reform is a license to kill.


33 posted on 09/19/2013 3:12:32 AM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: oldbrowser

Correct and this is great ammo to use against claims that you need to replace Democratcare with something else. Democratcare doesn’t solve anything, it worsens it.


37 posted on 09/19/2013 4:34:41 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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