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Senator John McCain: Russians deserve better than Putin
Pravda ^ | September 19, 2013 | John McCain

Posted on 09/19/2013 3:39:01 AM PDT by cunning_fish

When Pravda.ru editor, Dmitry Sudakov, offered to publish my commentary, he referred to me as "an active anti-Russian politician for many years." I'm sure that isn't the first time Russians have heard me characterized as their antagonist. Since my purpose here is to dispel falsehoods used by Russia's rulers to perpetuate their power and excuse their corruption, let me begin with that untruth. I am not anti-Russian. I am pro-Russian, more pro-Russian than the regime that misrules you today.

I make that claim because I respect your dignity and your right to self-determination. I believe you should live according to the dictates of your conscience, not your government. I believe you deserve the opportunity to improve your lives in an economy that is built to last and benefits the many, not just the powerful few. You should be governed by a rule of law that is clear, consistently and impartially enforced and just. I make that claim because I believe the Russian people, no less than Americans, are endowed by our Creator with inalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

A Russian citizen could not publish a testament like the one I just offered. President Putin and his associates do not believe in these values. They don't respect your dignity or accept your authority over them. They punish dissent and imprison opponents. They rig your elections. They control your media. They harass, threaten, and banish organizations that defend your right to self-governance. To perpetuate their power they foster rampant corruption in your courts and your economy and terrorize and even assassinate journalists who try to expose their corruption.

They write laws to codify bigotry against people whose sexual orientation they condemn. They throw the members of a punk rock band in jail for the

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: arrogant; collaborator; elitistnwo; lol; mccain; mccainidiot; obama; putin

1 posted on 09/19/2013 3:39:01 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

McCain (representing al Qaeda in Az. and Syria and Egypt
and Libya) should resign and GO to Russia.


2 posted on 09/19/2013 3:42:05 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: cunning_fish

And the American people deserve better than obamA and you


3 posted on 09/19/2013 3:42:42 AM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: cunning_fish

Here is the original article in Russian:
http://www.pravda.ru/news/world/northamerica/usacanada/19-09-2013/1174849-McCain_for_pravda_ru-0/


4 posted on 09/19/2013 3:43:33 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: Diogenesis

“President Putin and his associates do not believe in these values. They don’t respect your dignity or accept your authority over them. They punish dissent and imprison opponents. They rig your elections. They control your media. They harass, threaten, and banish organizations that defend your right to self-governance. To perpetuate their power they foster rampant corruption in your courts and your economy and terrorize and even assassinate journalists who try to expose their corruption.”

I read this paragraph and thought McCain had described the current American government. It’s very sad when our own government is as bad, or worse than the Russian government and McCain doesn’t see the irony in his projection.


5 posted on 09/19/2013 3:46:51 AM PDT by MNGal
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To: cunning_fish

Say what you like, it’s an astonishing change that such an article could be published in a Russian newspaper.

I also think he isn’t recognizing that Putin is by all accounts quite popular in Russia. But then, so was Stalin.


8 posted on 09/19/2013 3:49:29 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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To: cunning_fish

And we should never have to listen to McCain.


9 posted on 09/19/2013 3:50:10 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: MNGal

McCain is desperate to distract from the America he has helped to create.

NSA spying on the people - exceptionalism

Federal agencies deliberately working to smother “dangerous” political thought - exceptionalism

An ever growing bureaucratic fungal mat smothering entrepreneurship and crushing all will to strive or achieve - exceptionalism

Cradle to grave indoctrination of the communist party line in schools and ever growing social agencies - exceptionalism

Elected officials getting fabulously wealthy by legislating financial advantages for themselves - exceptionalism

Companies and unions buying influence with elected officials who legislate financial advantages for all 3 - Exceptionalism

Pedophile congressmen getting away with sleeping with underage prostitutes - exceptionalism

30 million + illegal aliens overrunning the country unchecked for someone elses political and financial gain - exceptionalism

Billions in foreign aid to nations that hate us - exceptionalism

Billions spent on pipe dream green energy scams that produce no energy and drive up costs - exceptionalism

Elected officials openly contemptuous toward the people who elected them - exceptionalism

Hitch hiking to the space station in Soyuz capsules from the 1960s because we don’t have a ride of our own - exceptionalism

Elected “Representatives” who exempt themselves from the laws they pass for their “constituents” - exceptionalism.


10 posted on 09/19/2013 3:53:22 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: MNGal

I understand your point, but I think at this stage it’s a tad hyperbolic.

Perhaps you’d like to post examples of:

Punished dissent. (Idiotic IRS decisions don’t count).

Imprisoned opponents.

Controlled media. (Our media isn’t controlled, it supports Obama willingly.)

They harass, threaten, and banish organizations that defend your right to self-governance. (IRS bit applies here, but denial of tax-exempt status isn’t really banning.)

Rampant corruption in your courts and your economy (Fair enough, but the court bit, like the media “control” is self-imposed, not forced on them.)

Terrorize and even assassinate journalists who try to expose their corruption.

For the most part, in this country opponents of the regime aren’t oppressed, they’re ignored.


11 posted on 09/19/2013 3:55:52 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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To: cunning_fish

he didn’t mention that America is more seriously overdue to trade up


12 posted on 09/19/2013 3:56:00 AM PDT by silverleaf (Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an accordion.)
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To: cunning_fish

This was not meant for the Russians—it was for domestic consumption to make him appear more conservative at home. This is meant to counter the OPPOSITION HE FACES AT HOME. The Tea Party is crushing him and his popularity is plummeting, which makes it hard for him to vote for Obamacare, Amnestry bill, increasing the debt limit, sending arms to Al-Qaeda and all the other radical Obama program. Some people here are falling for this crap. McCain is a fraud.


13 posted on 09/19/2013 4:04:23 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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>>>This was not meant for the Russians—it was for domestic consumption to make him appear more conservative at home. This is meant to counter the OPPOSITION HE FACES AT HOME. The Tea Party is crushing him and his popularity is plummeting, which makes it hard for him to vote for Obamacare, Amnestry bill, increasing the debt limit, sending arms to Al-Qaeda and all the other radical Obama program. Some people here are falling for this crap. McCain is a fraud.<<<

Well, it might be true, but in this case it makes no sense to publish in Pravda (with an original in Russian).


14 posted on 09/19/2013 4:07:44 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: SC_Pete
This was not meant for the Russians—it was for domestic consumption to make him appear more conservative at home.

He's using a longstanding communist tactic of trying to keep the people focused on an "enemy" elsewhere so they don't spend time thinking about domestic problems.
15 posted on 09/19/2013 4:09:20 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Sherman Logan

Punished dissent. (Idiotic IRS decisions don’t count).”

Why in the world doesn’t an example such as the IRS not count? Not only were organizations that had language opposing Obama denied 501c3 approval, there are many instances where individuals or businesses have been targeted for harrassment from the IRS—think Billy Graham (recently) and Gibson Guitars.

“Imprisoned opponents.”

The Hutaree group?

“’Controlled media. (Our media isn’t controlled, it supports Obama willingly.)’”

I believe that a majority in the media are supportive of Obama. But, I also believe that those in the media who would have most likely reported the “truth” about what is going on have been threatened. Also, let’s not forget that the Justice Department subpaeoned AP records and tapped journolist phone lines. In addition, it is well know that the media is “controlled” (although willingly) by disseminating the Administration talking points.

“They harass, threaten, and banish organizations that defend your right to self-governance. (IRS bit applies here, but denial of tax-exempt status isn’t really banning.)”

No...organizations aren’t banned, they are just harrassed to the point of non-existence, or not given the abiity to organize at all (IRS DOES apply here.)

“Rampant corruption in your courts and your economy (Fair enough, but the court bit, like the media “control” is self-imposed, not forced on them.)”

“Terrorize and even assassinate journalists who try to expose their corruption.”

BREITBART

I want to apologize in advance for the formatting of this post. I am on my Ipad, and I’m not familliar with formatting as I am on my computer. I’m really sorry, but I wanted to reply to your post to at least make sure that I could identify some of the reasons that I likened McCain’s accusations of the Russion government to our own.


16 posted on 09/19/2013 4:18:49 AM PDT by MNGal
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To: cunning_fish

You have got to be kidding,this is too easy,this ass McCain has the nerve to say something like this,Hey Mccain put a sock in it you A-Hole


17 posted on 09/19/2013 4:23:07 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Sherman Logan
Punished dissent. (Idiotic IRS decisions don’t count).

Petty denial of permit for 2 Million Biker Rally.

Imprisoned opponents.

Yemini Jounalist/Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, the filmmaker behind the Innocence of Muslims YouTube trailer.

Controlled media. (Our media isn’t controlled, it supports Obama willingly.)

Seriously!

They harass, threaten, and banish organizations that defend your right to self-governance. (IRS bit applies here, but denial of tax-exempt status isn’t really banning.)

But it is harrassment and threats!

Rampant corruption in your courts and your economy (Fair enough, but the court bit, like the media “control” is self-imposed, not forced on them.)

Justice John Roberts

Terrorize and even assassinate journalists who try to expose their corruption.

Andrew Breitbart and Michael Hastings.

Fairly weak retort - let me finish my coffee...

18 posted on 09/19/2013 4:25:43 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Tried to tell 'em Affirmative Action was a bad idea...Now look what happened!)
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To: MNGal
The Hutaree group

They provide a great example of how angry the American people are with government. After his acquittal, Hutaree leader David Stone was elected unopposed as constable in his hometown.
19 posted on 09/19/2013 4:26:05 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cunning_fish
"They write laws to codify bigotry against people whose sexual orientation they condemn. They throw the members of a punk rock band in jail for the crime of being provocative and vulgar and for having the audacity to protest President Putin's rule.

McCain throws this in despite the fact that the vast majority of Russians support laws outlawing homosexual proselytizing of minors. And the Patriarch of Moscow pled for mercy for Pussy Riot. Putin again knew what he was doing. He gave Crazy John enough rope.

20 posted on 09/19/2013 4:28:28 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: cunning_fish

Americans deserve better than McCain. And Obama. And Biden. And Pelosi. And Graham. And Lamar!. Need I go on?

Right now, I have more respect for Putin than I do for our (P)resident.


21 posted on 09/19/2013 4:28:32 AM PDT by meyer (What would John Hancock do?)
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To: cunning_fish

It’s getting more national media play than if he had published it I the New York Times. He positions himself the conservative we know he’s not.

And here we are discussing it at length at Free Republic.


22 posted on 09/19/2013 4:29:47 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: cunning_fish

Sorry Russia... America would be a better place with Juan McQueda and his pal Hussein al-Baraqi.

We want them both to STFU, too.


23 posted on 09/19/2013 4:32:57 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: cripplecreek

It’s more than just distracting—he’s “re-positioning”. He is vulnerable and cannot vote with Obama right now—especially Amnesty. He needs to gain some popularity with conservatives in Arizona. The RATS already love him. So he’s posing as the American Cowboy and one of the Founders at the same time. McCain is a fraud.


24 posted on 09/19/2013 4:34:45 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: ScottinVA

*withOUT


25 posted on 09/19/2013 4:35:22 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: MNGal

I think Breitbart’s death was one of the greatest tragedies of recent years for the conservative movement and America, but I’ve seen nothing but speculation that would indicate assassination.

To be sure, I have little doubt that spy agencies have the ability to do clandestine killings, and that Obama’s political types would have no reluctance to do so.

OTOH, he was the personality and physical type exactly prone to what killed him. My Dad also had the enlarged heart thing, and that’s not something that can be induced quickly. It develops over a long period. He had reportedly also had a serious heart attack some months earlier.

I do not believe local coroners and others would cover up cause of death. Suspicion is not evidence.


26 posted on 09/19/2013 4:38:55 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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To: cunning_fish

McCain sets Russian relations back 20 years in one fell swoop

Thanks dumbass


27 posted on 09/19/2013 4:42:08 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: cunning_fish

Is mccain in some kind of competition with HUSSEIN to see who can be more embarrassing and outrageous??


28 posted on 09/19/2013 4:44:40 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: cunning_fish

“You should be governed by a rule of law that is clear, consistently and impartially enforced and just.”

“He cared about the rule of law and believed no one should be above it”
*********************************************

Like congress and healthcare? It’s good enough for us but not good enough for them? Like Obama picking and choosing what laws he will enforce and ignore? That kind of consistent and impartial law?


29 posted on 09/19/2013 4:48:54 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: cunning_fish

WE deserve better than you.....but STUPID ARIZONANS keep sending you back to TORMENT us.


30 posted on 09/19/2013 4:57:25 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: cunning_fish

America and the United States Senate deserve far more than John McCain.


31 posted on 09/19/2013 5:02:27 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: cunning_fish

And we deserve better than Obama, for sure.


32 posted on 09/19/2013 5:05:21 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: cunning_fish
If McCain beat Obama then got re-elected he would be president today. How's that for a scary thought.


33 posted on 09/19/2013 5:11:25 AM PDT by McGruff (No wars for Arab pipelines!)
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Good God almighty, what have the citizens of Arizona wrought on America? Now we have the loser doing Obama’s bidding in the foreign media to defend the puppet-in-chief. Just pathetic.


34 posted on 09/19/2013 5:16:08 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: cunning_fish
"I make that claim because I respect your dignity and your right to self-determination. I believe you should live according to the dictates of your conscience, not your government. I believe you deserve the opportunity to improve your lives in an economy that is built to last and benefits the many, not just the powerful few. You should be governed by a rule of law that is clear, consistently and impartially enforced and just."

And yet this elitist dimwit does nothing to thwart the efforts of our own government to do the same to us.

McCain, the world laughs at you, too.

35 posted on 09/19/2013 5:18:28 AM PDT by FatherFig1o155 ("Most bad government results from too much government." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: cunning_fish
Senator John McCain: Russians deserve better than Putin

Americans deserve better than Obama AND McCain.
Couple a Putzs'.

36 posted on 09/19/2013 5:33:52 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: cunning_fish

I guess my partisan side is just to strong...but as an American and former Marine I am ashamed to admit that as a leader I would prefer Putin over the present occupant of the Whitehouse!!!


37 posted on 09/19/2013 5:36:31 AM PDT by ontap (***)
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Senator John McCain: Russians deserve better than Putin

Rummyfan: Americans deserve better than John McCain.

38 posted on 09/19/2013 5:46:32 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: MNGal

> “President Putin and his associates do not believe in these values. They don’t respect your dignity or accept your authority over them. They punish dissent and imprison opponents. They rig your elections. They control your media. They harass, threaten, and banish organizations that defend your right to self-governance. To perpetuate their power they foster rampant corruption in your courts and your economy and terrorize and even assassinate journalists who try to expose their corruption.”

I read this paragraph and thought McCain had described the current American government. It’s very sad when our own government is as bad, or worse than the Russian government and McCain doesn’t see the irony in his projection.

Talk about calling the kettle black! Truly unbelievable (well totally believable given McCain’s recent mindless devotion to Emporer Palpatine Obama)


39 posted on 09/19/2013 6:11:45 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: cunning_fish

A Russian citizen could not publish a testament like the one I just offered. (Joe the Plumber, IRS investigations, Fusion center domestic terrorist categorization for a Ron Paul sticker, a Gadsden flag or anything admiring the constitution)

They don’t respect your dignity or accept your authority over them. (Obamacare, TEA, etc)

They punish dissent and imprison opponents. (IRS harassment of TEA, Snowden exposing their crimes, etc)

They rig your elections. (Obama part 2, Holder dropping black panthers, winning 100% of large districts, dead voting, Mexicans voting, etc,,)

They control your media. (do I even need,,,)

They harass, threaten, and banish organizations that defend your right to self-governance. (using every agency of government to harass and destroy TEA)

To perpetuate their power they foster rampant corruption in your courts and your economy and terrorize and even assassinate journalists who try to expose their corruption.

(Homo Justice Roberts cleans it up for Obama. And as for the rest, we can just ask Breitbart,,,)

They write laws to codify bigotry against people whose sexual orientation they condemn. (In America our leaders ARE gay. Hillary, Obama, Lindsey Graham, etc etc.)

McCain is showing himself to be a senile lunatic and is embarrassing America. The Russians are laughing at us because of people like him who are utterly unworthy of respect.


40 posted on 09/19/2013 6:19:09 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: cunning_fish

Pathetic!

Compare the quality and content of Putin’s article with McCain’s.

Putin’s had focus, quality and did not try to incite against the American President, while McCain is trying to get involved in Russia’s internal politics, inciting against the President of Russia.

He is embarrassing the US more than Putin with anything he said.


41 posted on 09/19/2013 6:29:51 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: svcw

Yeah, the irony. I could guarantee you that if Russia held an election, Putin would win by a far bigger margin than ObaMao. Yet 49% of us are supposed to roll over for ObaMao because he won.


43 posted on 09/19/2013 6:36:37 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Sherman Logan

Ignorance is bliss.


44 posted on 09/19/2013 6:38:47 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: svcw

You said it. We poor souls in Arizona have now gotten McCain, Flake, and Napolitano. What a winning streak.


45 posted on 09/19/2013 6:38:50 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: cunning_fish

Staring in disbelief: McSane stilling uttering words from his mouth? Where do they come from?


46 posted on 09/19/2013 6:42:07 AM PDT by veracious
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