Posted on 09/19/2013 5:21:29 AM PDT by Kartographer
Tens of thousands of people have been trapped in the aftermath of two tropical storms that hammered vast swathes of Mexico. More than 1 million people have been affected. Acapulco's airport terminal was under water, stranding tourists. Shops were plundered in the city's upscale neighborhood of Diamante, home to luxury hotels and plush apartments, where dozens of cars were ruined by muddy brown floodwaters. Marines were posted outside stores to prevent further theft. "Unfortunately, it wasn't looting from need of food. It was stealing for stealing's sake," said Mariberta Medina, head of a local hoteliers' association. "They even stole Halloween and Christmas decorations and an outboard motor."
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I saw that one when it first came on. That lady has all that food and supplies and thinks everyone is just wonderful and kind and has no firearms. Then, the idiot guy says he will feed the zombies (my word, not his) if they come and then he will decide if they stay or if he has to cut their throats (because he doesn't believe in guns, either) Surely, they will stand still and let him kill them.
Those nice folks will be dead immediately after the Zombies see all that food - and it isn't hidden, it's right there out in the open.
People will die and I can't save them. I have helped people prepare on this and another website, and that is all I can do.
Kart, I haven't seen a post on this thread yet from some duffus who says he has a gun and will take what he needs from one of us. I do so like responding to that by saying, “You will be asking for suicide by prepper.”
I think small to medium locations might self-rescue, depending on local factors. That is, “rule of law” will be reestablished, even without outside help. But in medium to larger towns, (again depending on many factors), total anarchy might break out after a week with no power and no outside food and water. Once trucks begin to be hijacked and robbed, all bets are off. It will come to resemble a war zone very fast as outlaw gangs fight for control of the remaining food, fuel etc.
“:snicker: The Bride and I had bugout bags on our honeymoon...”
What you didn’t know, was, she had her bag in case she left because she decided she didn’t like you. :o)
Yeah, that’s a lot like how I see it.
A lot of people locally here keep begging to know what kind of timeline to prep for. They want numbers, figures and stats.
They don’t quite realize flexibility is a virtue.
And for sure, have enough to survive a month on your own property without resupply. Two weeks bare minimum. Food, water, meds, everything. The few weeks after a crisis, during a no-power situation, the police will be busy protecting VIPs, the infrastructure, and themselves. There will be no 911. If you have to go out foraging for food during those first weeks, it could prove fatal. Too many starving and rage-filled folks will be out looking for the same non-existent food.
Exactly.
Personally, I’ve always used the 30-day benchmark. We’ve got a lot of newbies who are finally waking up, and they are asking newbie questions.
But at least they’re asking...
If you don’t survive to the 30 day mark, you have zero chance of surviving to a year.
That's an astute analysis. People tend to believe: If a disaster isn't happening, then it won't happen. They are sheep. If the power company gives them notice the power will be off for 4 hours, then they believe that because they were told when it was going to happen. Same with the water company, they send out message water will be out for 6 hours for repair - so they prepare for that.
They have to have a definite problem at a definite time before they make a move to prepare. That will work for small stuff, but not a large disaster as there isn't time to prepare all they would need. Then, some/many of them will lose their lives.
What you said is true: Being flexible to respond can save your life. Being rigid will get you killed.
I did a year.
Like I said, at least they’re STARTING to break the normalcy bias.
The main thing that I’m tilting at windmills over, is to get them to stop talking about tinfoil-hat conspiracy theories, and keep them focused on logistics.
That much aluminum in your diet is not nutritious.
Why, hey, pious folk, let US give these looters amnesty.
Of course, you have hurricanes in Florida, and based on the strength, you could be in a heap of trouble with houses down and transportation shut down for a long tine.
I knew a couple in Florida and he was just out of the Green Berets. Hurricane Andrew happened, they were not affected as they were fairly far away from there. He volunteered to go on a truck with water and MREs to take to the folks. The truck got there and they were overrun with a mob of people trampling other people and it was dangerous for them, so they drove that truck away from there. He said he would never volunteer for that again.
I have heard horrors out of Miami-Dade from those days.
I was living in south Orlando at the time. We had pretty stiff winds from the edges of Andrew, but it was NOTHING compared to after the storm.
I refer to the human debris that wafted up from the south. Bums, druggies, thugs, the wreck of humanity. The crime rate in Orlando tripled in just a few months. They followed the evacuees north, and crowded out the shelters from folks who really were displaced. It took years before the situation stabilized.
So, we need to consider the aftermath of a scenario, it seems. Just how long will it take for the reset? Who can say...
Still a work in progress. I am doing what I can for myself, and my kids and grandkids. So altogether 10 people for a minimum of 6 months which will get us to the next planting season.
Will continue to stock until there is enough for a whole year. I especially stock #10 cans of basic pantry foods that will be good for 10 to 20 years. If shtf doesn’t happen, I’ll have enough for me and hubby to last the rest of our lives at today’s prices.
We won’t be choosing between alpo and purina dog food, we’ll have nice nutritious beans, rice, and cornbread.LOL
Continuing to stock food we use all the time like canned fruits, veggies, tuna etc. when on sale for more than a year for the two of us depending on the use by date-push it a little beyond.
Even if we don’t get huge inflation, food at today’s prices is a good investment, because even small inflation adds up.
I just read that Milk could very well be up to 6 dollars a gallon by Christmas, so I bought a case of powdered at just a little over 3 bucks per gallon.
Sometime in the next 10 to 20 years, Milk will be costing more than 3 bucks per gallon, even if the December spike doesn’t happen so that’s a good investment.
Trouble is, I am going to have to build some more pantry shelves-mine are getting pretty full.LOL
It’s hard to know if it’s worth investing in safety shields when you are living on the shoulder of Mt Vesuvius in Pompeii.
http://honeyvillegrain.com/products/Products.html
http://store.lds.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Category3_715839595_10557_21003_-1_N_image_0
I’m not going to compare prices or comment on quality/taste, but here’s the link for Honeyville Grain at 15% off and one for the LDS Church’s home food storage. The Mormons sell to non-members, and their products should at least be considered. Both are certainly worth considering.
“I especially stock #10 cans of basic pantry foods that will be good for 10 to 20 years.”
Most of my stored food is long life 20-25 yrs.
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